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WEDNESDAY, APR 17, 2013| 18 comments| 1 commentary
Christian Rapper Calls Out, Names Prosperity Preachers

A Christian rapper recently released a song that calls out prosperity gospel teachers by name, including Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, T.D. Jakes, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar and the entire Trinity Broadcasting Network.

“I ain't really trying to start beef, but some who claim to be part of His sheep got some sharp teeth. (They're wolves),” Shai Linne raps in the song “Fal$e Teacher$” before referencing Matthew 7:16.

The song—from Linne's album Lyrical Theology Part 1: Theology, which released April 9—has caused buzz among Christian bloggers, especially with the song's naming of 12 pastors, each name followed by “is a false teacher!” ...


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News Item4/21/13 8:46 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Luther's homeboy wrote:
Luther stole shamelessly from the Romish church but stuck his nose up at almost all folk music? Now the RCC and Evangelical Protestants almost exclusively worship using folk (the people's) music. One megachurch recently played a beautiful rendition of Sky Fall from the latest James Bond film. If it helps worship God, then more power to them.
Luther is but one of the creators of Reformation Era hymns, and not the only one to borrow from the music of the era.
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News Item4/20/13 8:43 PM
Luther's homeboy  Find all comments by Luther's homeboy
Luther stole shamelessly from the Romish church but stuck his nose up at almost all folk music? Now the RCC and Evangelical Protestants almost exclusively worship using folk (the people's) music. One megachurch recently played a beautiful rendition of Sky Fall from the latest James Bond film. If it helps worship God, then more power to them.
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News Item4/20/13 7:02 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Did Luther borrow from the secular world around him? The charge is not true.

Luther loved music and wanted the people to sing. He introduced congregational hymn singing in his day. Before the Reformation, the Church of Rome had no congregational singing at all. The people just listened.

Luther was a composer himself, and also an adapter of other works. We read in Robert Harrell’s work, Martin Luther: His Music, His Message, that Luther wrote thirty-seven chorales, fifteen of which he composed himself, and thirteen being derived from existing Catholic church music. Four were taken from German religious folk songs. Only one out of the thirty-seven came from a secular folk song. This hardly justifies the idea that Luther helped himself to secular sources. In the case of the one item drawn from a secular folk song, it is argued that the secular world had stolen that melody from the church, and Luther merely reclaimed it (having adapted and sanitised it).

Promoters of new worship love to quote Luther as saying, ‘Why should the devil have all the good tunes?’ What they do not tell their hearers is that Luther was talking about Catholic church music, not tavern songs. He was not interested in stealing from the world around him.

Get the facts right people!

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News Item4/19/13 8:40 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
search4truth wrote:
SteveR,
You might want to do some research on this myth, this link may be of some help - http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2010/09/luthers-bar-tunes/
Im not saying they were drinking songs, I said they were adapted from contemporary music of the day. That is not in dispute in your link, but it was a big shock for those used to only hearing Latin chants in church

http://www.academia.edu/1551100/Why_do_Lutherans_sing_Lutherans_Music_and_the_Gospel_in_the_first_Century_of_the_Reformation

"At the same time, he took great care in setting words to melodies that people knew well. For Luther a popular plainchant melody was as useful as a tavern song; he was convinced that ‘the notes make the text come to life’"

btw-While Im a purist and would like only Psalms sung during service, I have no problem with people who sing the above hymns at their churches

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News Item4/19/13 7:34 PM
search4truth  Find all comments by search4truth
SteveR wrote:
While I dont like rap, werent many reformation hymns adapted from the popular tavern music of the era?
SteveR,

You might want to do some research on this myth, this link may be of some help - http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2010/09/luthers-bar-tunes/

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News Item4/19/13 7:30 PM
jj33  Protected NameFind all comments by jj33
Can the origins of rap and rock be compared to the origins of reformation music?

Has not the ethos of violence, sexual abuse, drug use, and on and on been perfected and manifested in our day in rock and rap music?

Did tavern music pervade the define the worldly culture like rock and rap do ours today?

A very helpful book is "All God's Children and Blue Suede Shoes" to understand where we are. It can be had as a audio book as well.

Have a look/ listen!

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News Item4/19/13 5:13 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
jj33 wrote:
For a fact there is no such thing as a "christian rapper".
How can these things be?
For truth they should not!
While I dont like rap, werent many reformation hymns adapted from the popular tavern music of the era?
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News Item4/19/13 5:09 PM
jj33  Protected NameFind all comments by jj33
Mike wrote:
Does anyone find " reformed rap" to be a oxy moron? This guy is rapping about these word faith leaders, but at the same time, he is attending " new Calvinist churches" teaching charasmatic teachings... Such as. Tim Keller , cj mahanney , etc.. Your mixing wordiness, with holiness...
Anyone wanting to get information, listen to pastor Ralph Ovadal. Sermon. Their no puritans. Or charasmatic Calvinist, here on SermonAudio. Very good!
Amen.

Ralph is good on this topic so is Peter Masters. Google "New Calvinism, The Merger of Calvinism with Worldliness" to read him on this topic.

For truth The Lord Jesus Christ does not rap or rock.

When we worship in a formal way we are brought low and God is honored. When we cut loose, we are lifted up and God is dishonored. Has this not been tried before? Has no one read the OT?

Where is the gut instinct on this? Why is this missing in our day?

For a fact there is no such thing as a "christian rapper".

How can these things be?

For truth they should not!

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News Item4/19/13 4:25 PM
Mike | Florida  Find all comments by Mike
Does anyone find " reformed rap" to be a oxy moron? This guy is rapping about these word faith leaders, but at the same time, he is attending " new Calvinist churches" teaching charasmatic teachings... Such as. Tim Keller , cj mahanney , etc.. Your mixing wordiness, with holiness...
Anyone wanting to get information, listen to pastor Ralph Ovadal. Sermon. Their no puritans. Or charasmatic Calvinist, here on sermon audio. Very good!
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News Item4/19/13 2:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I see the IT expert of John MacArthur's website fiddled with stuff from when I got the urls for Charismatic Chaos: Sermon 12 - "Does God promise Health and Wealth? (Part 1)" and Charismatic Chaos: Sermon 13 - "Does God promise Health and Wealth? (Part 2)"

Of course you can have all of his sermons handy all in one place by buying the low-priced paperback, Charismatic Chaos.

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News Item4/18/13 2:42 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Also, one can add a fine commentary that has been around for awhile, An Examination of the Word-faith Movement. John MacArthur looked at it more broadly in, Does God Promise Health & Wealth? (Part 1 of 2), and even how the secular press have their doubts if this is Christian, Does God Want You To Be Rich?--Time Magazine.
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News Item4/17/13 10:37 PM
redmanj7 | USA  Contact via emailFind all comments by redmanj7
Justin Peters "A call for Discernment", very good DVD that thoroughly covers this topic.
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News Item4/17/13 1:13 PM
Harley Schwartz | United States  Find all comments by Harley Schwartz
He's doing what Paul did: Sparing the flock by not sparing the deceivers. These prosperity call evil to be good by teaching people that it's not only okay to be covetous, but that God BLESSES it. "God wants you rich, God wants you to have an easy life, claim it by faith!" You must have a hardened conscience before you can believe that. Covetousness is at the root of every other sin. Once you can be easy with that one, you'll easily stumble into every other sin. May Shai Lynn's song help keep MANY from the edge of the abyss.
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News Item4/17/13 11:53 AM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Im not a fan of contemporary "Christian" music and rap just feeds my flesh but none the less im glad he's calling them what they are -wolves in sherpa clothing.
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News Item4/17/13 9:27 AM
Jamesc | Fallbrook, Ca  Find all comments by Jamesc
I thought the song, because of its theologically accurate lyrics, was good. I had my kids listen to it. I first heard about this on worldmag.com. To me, this kind of rap music is more theologically sound than the stuff coming out out CCM.
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News Item4/17/13 9:12 AM
Seekface | South New Jersey  Find all comments by Seekface
I believe this is an in house manner, but Mr. Linne is right. If we look at most of the New Testament it is made up of mostly books written to corrupt churches so this is no different that maybe because its coming from a Christian "rapper" its hard for you to agree. The gospel is nothing more than that we are cut off from God and now Jesus died in our place has now made us right with God. And this is a very serious thing, we are cursed generation and we need Jesus now more than ever that is the only message, not that we call people to God for the sake of worldly benefits that will burn along with their speakers. These people are in bible study up.
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News Item4/17/13 8:47 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Yes, they will be telling their flocks that they are being persecuted for Christ's sake and will act overjoyed.
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News Item4/17/13 8:34 AM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Protected NameFind all comments by Scott McMahan
Not a good idea. These prosperity preachers thrive on attention and controversy, and know how to turn any sort of criticism into persecution. Best to ignore them, and they'll wither away.
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