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FRONT PAGE  |  8/30/2015
SUNDAY, APR 7, 2013  |  10 comments  |  1 commentary
Cursive handwriting bill passes NC House
The state House of Representatives unanimously passed legislation Thursday requiring North Carolina elementary school students to learn cursive handwriting and to memorize multiplication tables.

The "Back to Basics" bill would once again make cursive handwriting a part of the curriculum for the state’s public elementary schools. The State Board of Education would be expected to make sure that public schools provide instruction so that students create readable documents in cursive by the end of fifth grade and have memorized multiplication tables.

With legislators fearing that cursive handwriting is becoming a lost skill and that students are relying too much on calculators, the bill drew no opposition. The normally combative arguments on the House floor were replaced with laughter Thursday about whether anyone would vote no. ...


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News Item4/9/13 4:11 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Heartily agree with jpw, she is hitting the proverbial nail on the head. Thanks jpw, great posts!!
Totally agree
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News Item4/9/13 4:05 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Heartily agree with jpw, she is hitting the proverbial nail on the head. Thanks jpw, great posts!!
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News Item4/9/13 2:36 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
jpw, it's strange when I went to high school ah those many years back, typing was an elective. I joined the class late, but was admitted because I was already training myself to type. I like clean-cut letters, and a clean cut hand when it was being dragged through the carbon or ball point ink as the case may be. Yes, I can still scrawl, but I have avoided it for years.
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News Item4/9/13 2:19 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
its not just mediocrity, and inability to do a basic task....scientists and mathmeticians are able to see these things in their head and work them out.

even more.... is control over the mind. and that is what the end of books would mean.

its like reformation in reverse. the saints of the middle ages gave their lives to bring the scriptures in the language of the people that they may be able to seek and understand the scriptures and learn and excel...

....you think the bible translations have gone awry already? wait until mainstreamers throw away all their books and get everything from their electronic leash. the bible will then be dumbed down like everything else and censored to the collective. likely books will be contraband.... history always repeats itself.

one can write cursive and learn to type. it doesn't have to be either or! one can learn multiplication tables in a number of hours and still have time to watch hrs of video a day (the superior thing?)

it is a conundrum I do not have an answer for. when the collective gets dumbed down, mediocrity becomes the expectation. how does one achieve by achieving when this is considered failing?

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News Item4/9/13 2:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Lurker what they need to do is to use an abacus! Those inscrutable Easterners came up with good ideas even a thousand years ago!

JPW, you probably don't like this one either, It's the end of books as you knew them: E-books out-sell hardbound for the 1st time. The author of the article was that excited about that idea, but it is sort of trying to stop the tide. Yes, I have printed books too. Some of them I would like to keep, like you already know, NASB. Still like if you're thumbing through the KJV for historical curiosity it's great to have it in electronic form, so you can Strong's Concordance to at least bring up to the 19th century in clarity.

All the lefties, like me still strongly believe in learning how to type -- and having the sweet young things learn cursive writing. They do a better job of it, anyway.

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News Item4/8/13 11:34 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
jpw wrote:
Employers complain all the time these days that young people are lacking real world experience, the ability to think independently and make common sense decisions... the boss cannot babysit their workers... by making them completely dependent, they will have to be babysat.... won't even be able to go in a store and add up the price without an electronic leash.
Sorry Mark, but I have to agree with jpw.

If you have ever been at a store check out counter when the power goes out, you'll understand why. Hardly anyone can add up the cost of two items and make change for a twenty without an electronic device of some sort. And if you use plastic your out of luck completely.

Too much dependence on technology will prove devastation one day.

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News Item4/8/13 1:34 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Mark M -- cursive teaches children reading and writing--it is an antedote to many learning problems. writing is about fluency, vocabulary development, communication and higher level thinking, not just filling out lines on an application.

multiplication tables are basic for computation and science. so a nation without this will not have scientists or mathmeticians.

dictionaries are getting dumbed down -- get an old Webster dictionary and compare definitions of the word "marriage" -- our language, our abilitiy to communicate is getting dumbed down.

paper books are a written historical record. electronics are not. the holders of information will own the future and those who have no background will follow suit.look at wikipedia. this is where we get info now, it changes daily and is conjecture.

Students need a good memory and a sound mind. Relying on data bases ensures they will have neither.

Employers complain all the time these days that young people are lacking real world experience, the ability to think independently and make common sense decisions... the boss cannot babysit their workers... by making them completely dependent, they will have to be babysat.... won't even be able to go in a store and add up the price without an electronic leash.

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News Item4/8/13 7:12 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Mark M. wrote:
I'm not AGAINST students learning cursive writing or memorizing multiplication tables, but it's not really a top priority. Cursive writing is rarely used anywhere. Why not teach them typewriter repair or how to speak Aramaic? Memorizing multiplication tables or anything else for that matter is a futile exercise. Our memories likely fail in time and we all forget things or make mental errors from time to time.Students shouldn't depend of their own memories too much for answering problems or writing reports. They should be taught how to use the tools at their disposal calculators, dictionaries, data bases,and all of our computerized devices to assure that they do accurate work.
Has there ever been an employer that has required you to complete a project relying on only your own abilities? Maybe, but I think most successful businesses want their employees to use every tool at their disposal to make sure the job is done right the first time.
You forgot to mention using slide rules for mathematical computations.
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News Item4/8/13 3:54 AM
Mark M. | in the UAE  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
I'm not AGAINST students learning cursive writing or memorizing multiplication tables, but it's not really a top priority. Cursive writing is rarely used anywhere. Why not teach them typewriter repair or how to speak Aramaic? Memorizing multiplication tables or anything else for that matter is a futile exercise. Our memories likely fail in time and we all forget things or make mental errors from time to time.Students shouldn't depend of their own memories too much for answering problems or writing reports. They should be taught how to use the tools at their disposal calculators, dictionaries, data bases,and all of our computerized devices to assure that they do accurate work.

Has there ever been an employer that has required you to complete a project relying on only your own abilities? Maybe, but I think most successful businesses want their employees to use every tool at their disposal to make sure the job is done right the first time.

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News Item4/7/13 3:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
There must not have been a single left-handed person in the NC House.

Math tables? You mean are fingers aren't good enough? Toss in the toes for an emergency.

I hope they have a law in NC that makes Engish the main language of NC, be it typed or handwritten.

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