Influential Sen. Rob Portman became the first sitting Republican U.S. senator to endorse same-sex marriage Friday (March 15), saying a development in his family led him to "wrestle" with his faith and decide that homosexuals should be allowed to marry.
In an opinion piece in The Columbus Dispatch, the senator from Ohio said two years ago his son Will, who was a freshman at Yale University at the time, disclosed to his parents that he is gay.
"He said he'd known for some time, and that his sexual orientation wasn't something he chose; it was simply a part of who he is," Portman wrote, adding that he and his wife Jane were proud of their son's honesty and courage....
Why do listen to the opinions of fallen men without a cry of the True Christian Church for days of fasting prayer of intercession for our country. May the Living God have mercy on all of us who claim His name that are not praying for a revival in this land. Without the Lord God restraining these lying demons will continue draw people in with their lies. Someone needs to tell the parents of a homosexual child that approving of your childs sinful behavior is the same thing as you yourself throwing them into hell. How many of these parents pour a glass of juice containing poison because their child thinks that it tases good?
John UK wrote: Your post a blessing to me, US. And I feel very much the same way for our brother Frank. I'd never heard that hymn before, but I like it very much - such good doctrine and experience of all saints. What wonderful love of God toward us, and what grace! He is certainly to be praised every hour of every day for that everlasting love showered upon us who deserve nothing from him but wrath and judgment.
And your post and US' post were both a blessing to me. Thanks to both of you and when I am thinkly clearly,which isn't often, I thank the Lord for all the trials He graciously allows to enter into my life.
Mike, the Lord didn't say we could or should serve Him part-time? Your comment lends itself to my personal thought that a person can't hold political office and serve Christ at the same time. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. You are correct, this fellow took an oath to support and defend a system that is antithetical to Christ. Can you imagine him telling the Lord that he did what he did because his constituents were for gay marriage.
The issue is whether Portman made the change as a father or as a senator. As a senator, he is responsible to the people who elected him. If his son is homosexual, Portman's obligation is to remember he wasn't sent to Washington to represent his son's lifestyle, but his constituents' political views. If his opposition to "gay marriage" has changed to support because of his son, this should be his last term in office.
Your post a blessing to me, US. And I feel very much the same way for our brother Frank.
I'd never heard that hymn before, but I like it very much - such good doctrine and experience of all saints. What wonderful love of God toward us, and what grace! He is certainly to be praised every hour of every day for that everlasting love showered upon us who deserve nothing from him but wrath and judgment.
Also, the Lord reminded me, that but for the grace of God there go I. I can't imagine the anguish and heartache as he probably pondered over and over where did I go wrong. (it was his son's choice regardless) I am truly blessed to have an immediate family that have been born from above and are active in church. My heart goes out to Frank as it must be a great grief to have those that are close to you in such a state. Your faith has been tested and toughened in the fires of affliction. You godly perspective through it all is a blessing. When we look at people fallen into a sin that are described as those of whom God has given up to vile affections our only trust is that our Lord said with men it is impossible but all things are possible with God. But back to the reason of my post, I must say the songwriter captured it well when speaking of the marriage supper of the Lamb:
While all our hearts and all our songs Join to admire the feast Each of us cry with thankful tongues, Lord why was I a guest? Why was I made to hear thy voice and enter while there is room, when thousands make a wretched choice and rather starve then come. Twas that same love that spread the feast that sweetly drew us in, else we had still refused to taste and perished in our sin.
Frank wrote: Very well said Luke 17:10! There is much anguish when this becomes personal. I have two family members who are openly homosexual, one male and one female, and living in what they call marital unions
There is no doubt that we live in a fallen world, but this knowledge is only available to the Christian. Homosexuality is sin and as God points out is an abomination which difiles the very land we live on. Today it has become hi-viz sin with politicians and many others, falling into the satanic pit of it and society suffering the consequences. The real problem as ever is that they are blind to the truth thus Satan is working his usual evil plan and the sinner succumbs again to the ancient temptation.
Jn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Not sure, I say we trounce Him, Matthew 10:37 (NASB) "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me." If he loves his son, he will not encourage him in his march down the path of destruction to an eternal destination where the worm dies not and the fire is not quenched.
Very well said Luke 17:10! There is much anguish when this becomes personal. I have two family members who are openly homosexual, one male and one female, and living in what they call marital unions. Believe me there is no anguish on their parts anymore, but for those of us who are trying to love them and yet not condone their behavior, it is the most difficult thing I can imagine. The scripture you quoted should be the goal and reality of every born again, redeemed person. They will naturally see us as hateful, but the opposite is true. My heart goes out to all my brothers and sisters who must suffer in this manner.
We should trounce his pseudo-Christian hypocrisy as I have done!
SteveR wrote: Portman not only condoned the behaviour, he used the 'Bible' to justify it. ""Ultimately, it came down to the Bible's overarching themes of love and compassion and my belief that we are all children of God,"" Portman wrote. BTW- Unprofitable Servant, I am happy this article was posted by SA. The question is will we trounce his Presbyterian upbringing, his Methodist Church, Politics or just the culture in general for the hypocrisy?
Not sure, I say we trounce Him, Matthew 10:37 (NASB) "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me." If he loves his son, he will not encourage him in his march down the path of destruction to an eternal destination where the worm dies not and the fire is not quenched.
Frank wrote: Portman chose, but he simply chose poorly...
I agree Frank. How are we said to be hateful to homosexuals by telling them to flee from the wrath to come??? If those that practice such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God, then we must in love bid them forsake their sin and turn to Christ before it is eternally too late. As it said in the article, "The Christian faith, for over 2,000 years now, has said that the overarching theme of love and compassion tells homosexuals the truth, and that is that God does not condone or accept homosexual behavior. That is quite clear in the New Testament, as well as the Old," Land said.
Frank wrote: Portman chose, but he simply chose poorly. It is one thing to fail our Lord, but to fail Him and then to publicly exhibit and argue your position is something only heretics would do. I didn't read the article well, but my guess is Portman didn't denounce homosexuality, but skipped to gay marriage. That is what politicians do. That way homosexuality isn't the focus of the discussion and it should be.
Portman not only condoned the behaviour, he used the 'Bible' to justify it.
""Ultimately, it came down to the Bible's overarching themes of love and compassion and my belief that we are all children of God,"" Portman wrote.
BTW- Unprofitable Servant, I am happy this article was posted by SA. The question is will we trounce his Presbyterian upbringing, his Methodist Church, Politics or just the culture in general for the hypocrisy?
Portman chose, but he simply chose poorly. It is one thing to fail our Lord, but to fail Him and then to publicly exhibit and argue your position is something only heretics would do. I didn't read the article well, but my guess is Portman didn't denounce homosexuality, but skipped to gay marriage. That is what politicians do. That way homosexuality isn't the focus of the discussion and it should be. How can homosexual marriage be okay if homosexuality is an abomination? Many churches, the media and others are changing the way we think using this technique.
If you are not a bond-servant or slave of our Lord, then you aren't serving Him according to scripture.
If you are not serving Him as a slave, according to scripture, then you are not following Him.
If you are not following Him, then you are not one of His disciples.
If you are not His disciple, then you are not one of His sheep.
If you are not one of His sheep, then He is not your Shepherd.
If He is not your Shepherd, then ....
U.S. I would say, love your child, but don't support them or their lifestyles. But, your point is well taken.