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Amid growing support for same-sex marriage nationwide, a new poll from Quinnipiac University shows that most Catholics in the U.S. also back same-sex marriage, despite the church's teachings against it.
According to the poll, which surveyed 497 adult Catholics from February 27 - March 4 with a margin of error of +/- 4.4 percent, 54 percent of Catholic voters support same-sex marriage, while 38 percent oppose it. The survey shows a dramatic shift on the subject in the last few years: In a July 2008 poll by Quinnipiac, only 36 percent of Catholic voters said they supported same-sex marriage, while 55 percent opposed it.
Among 1,944 registered voters surveyed in the same poll, 47 percent supported same-sex marriage and 43 percent opposed it. A December poll asking the same question showed a statistical tie on the issue, at 48 percent in support and 46 percent in opposition....
Unprofitable Servant wrote: . I will try to be more clear so as not to be misunderstood. I certainly am not excusing his actions. Explaining might be a better word. You seem to feel that the SA moderators were skipping the story on purpose and actually came across as joyous that someone had fallen in to wrong choices just because he was in a political party that maybe you hold in disdain. It is hard for a parent to see their children make bad choices.
Sorry, Its obvious you made excuses for him. Maybe you are more anti democrat than you are pro Christian?
I offered no excuses for these Catholics in their support of same sex perversion, but you clearly went to Portmans defense. While you stopped short of justifying it, you did offer an excuse for it.
Being politically conservative, shouldnt equal hypocrisy. Its clear that SA will scour the back pages for less than newsworthy items demonizing Catholics or Democrats, but turn a blind eye to the SAME behaviour done by our(Im very conservative) side.
Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
SteveR wrote: Making excuses for him too? Interesting
Thanks,you seem to delight in twisting the words of others with the goal of, shall we say, stirring up the pot. I will try to be more clear so as not to be misunderstood. I certainly am not excusing his actions. Explaining might be a better word. You seem to feel that the SA moderators were skipping the story on purpose and actually came across as joyous that someone had fallen in to wrong choices just because he was in a political party that maybe you hold in disdain. It is hard for a parent to see their children make bad choices. I certainly would not say it would justify them following their child in their steps. I would hope Senator Portman would put the truth of the Word of God above his son's feelings. Matthew 10:37 "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me." (NASB)I am not saying that Mr. Portman makes claims to be a Christian, I have no idea. I hope that clarifies what I meant. Thanks
SteveR wrote: "Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) has reversed his stance on same-sex marriage " Im sure the SA moderators just missed this news item today
His son came out and said he was "gay." Parents do a lot things different when it comes to the children. It does not change the Word of God that they that practice such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Not justifying his change, just filling in some details you chose to leave out.
I just realized that the post was in reference to my battles with the Roman Catholics along with everything I've had to say concerning the false religion. Sorry about that. I have had some other battles going on within other threads now, and in the past on another topic so that is all that was in my mind this AM when I logged on and I didn't realize which thread I had clicked on before reading the post and replying. Anyway, thanks again...that really lifted me up after feeling so down and questioning myself.
Whoever wrote the post below...thank you so much! I really need to read something like that once in a great while because despite all appearances, I really get down when I get trashed and accused of things I'm not. For anyone to continuly call me a wicked, lying, black hating racist is no different to me than calling me a raging homosexual, because, for one, it's just not true, but there is also no evidence for it whatsoever. SA posted the news headline: The Father of US slavery was a black man". My response was that some of the black population never mentions that historical fact while continuing the hatred over the past. I still don't know what I said wrong but if it is in fact wrong, then it was in complete innocence because I don't understand what the issue is and it doesn't warrant the Satanic attacks that Steve and his girl have made. I consider myself to be caring, compassionate, and very generous, to blacks and whites equally, so I just don't get why people keep coming at me periodically. I am actually the polar opposite of the accusations so I am just stunned everytime I log on to read things like I have had to endure. Anyway, blah, blah, blah...that was a typical very long winded way of saying thank you and for for giving me a little bit of clarity back.
Christopher000, Just a few lines to let u know that reading your many posts over the past year has been a blessing to me personally.your enthusiasm is a breath of fresh air after some of the pious gas bags get finished with all their false doctrines and pontificating their love for the harlot Rome. All of that to say this,don't let the so called professors with the vulture beaks get u down. Just consider them sanctifiers that the LORD has put in all of our paths on this board. Blessings to you. A sister in CHRIST.
What I find I interesting about Steve is that as long as I have been around, I have never seen him try to uplift anyone, offer to pray for someone in need, instruct anyone in Biblical doctrine, be light hearted, engage in non-heretical discussions, or help out in any way whatsoever. Steve, however, always comes out swinging when the truth is told concerning his Roman Catholic church and the true fate of his buds. He also loves to back up anyone who tries bust onto the board and hurl unfounded, Satanically inspired accusations at board members. Steve loves this stuff and he thinks he is oh so intelligent. The truth, however, is that his extreme lack of knowledge makes him look very foolish. Steve is right, but every single person on this board is wrong? Come on now, Steveo. Really? The only reason I don't engage you is because you couldn't possibly outwit me so I just wouldn't consider it any kind of challenge. I do wish you had the brain power though because I think we could have had some interesting banter.
When a Catholic says that he has been "born again," he refers to the transformation that God‚Äôs grace accomplished in him during baptism. Evangelical Protestants typically mean something quite different when they talk about being "born again."
We know from I John those born from above practice righteousness and do not practice unrighteous. We know they are begotten by the Word of truth. (James 1:18) Therefore, if a person in a Catholic church were saved (be tough in a church that doesn't preach the Word of truth), it would be known because they would leave the unrighteous false church and be joined unto an assembly that practices righteousness. We could see the difference in their lives (John 3) Getting sprinkled only has one effect on a person, it gets them wet. Faith produces works, and one of those works is walking in the light as He is in light and not in darkness as the RCC is in darkness. He that says I know Him and walks in darkness is a liar. (I John 1:6)
SteveR wrote: Not true, I dont accept RCC dogma on salvation. Keep your lies to yourself
Your inconsistency is your responsibility not mine. There comes a point where gross inconsistency from an educated and articulate man reveals him to be a liar. Lies - you say?
You have stated on these forums that Rome anathematizes "Only false believers, those that are liars."
Yet Rome anathematizes all those who hold to imputed righteousness and justification by faith.
Therefore, if you are consistent, you MUST believe that the doctrine of imputed righteousness and justification by faith is a lie in order for their anathematised adherents to be what you have stated to be only false believers and liars.
The two choices on the issue are: 1. the doctrines of imputed righteousness which you have clearly identified as a lie and as something held to by false believers and liars. 2. Rome's doctrine of infused righteousness.
In the absence of either 1. a third option 2. any retraction by you of your endorsement of Rome's anathemas I repeat to you SteveR:
Hunter wrote: Who are you kidding? You are not a protestant. You believe in infused righteousness, a false and papist doctrine.