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SUNDAY, MAR 3, 2013  |  51 comments
The Holocaust Just Got More Shocking
THIRTEEN years ago, researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum began the grim task of documenting all the ghettos, slave labor sites, concentration camps and killing factories that the Nazis set up throughout Europe.

What they have found so far has shocked even scholars steeped in the history of the Holocaust.

The researchers have cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler’s reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945. ...


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Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thank you.
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News Item3/7/13 11:40 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Christopher, perhaps putting away the commentaries for awhile and just read the New Testament. Remind yourself of the New Covenant and what it is. Then you will understand that Paul's version of "saving the Jews" was living among them and sharing the gospel. The greatest enemy of any man is the sin within -- redemption is the answer.
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News Item3/7/13 8:06 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I stopped by this AM to retract my lengthy comment below. I have a problem with pride and always seem to catch it too late. This is one of the habitual sins that I am constantly asking forgiveness for. When I feel I have been wronged, disrespected, or whatever, I hit back, forgetting that I can't do that anymore, so sorry for the rant, Steve.
Lurker, I will pray for you as well. I don't know why you didnt say something earlier. I take prayer very seriously and have seen it work way too many times not to. I believe some very fearful and wonderful things begin within the spirit realm the moment we begin praying so I don't find it to be a boring chore at all.
Anyway, what can I help with? Nothing specific, just very general. Physical? Mental battles? I just like to pinpoint my prayers a bit but totally respect your privacy if you want to keep it quiet.
I'll start tonight either way.
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News Item3/7/13 6:58 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lurker wrote:
Your prayers would be appreciated.
Bro, I am concerned and will certainly pray for you.
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News Item3/7/13 1:16 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
John UK wrote:
You've lost me brother. Could you give a simpler explanation for an old turnip?
Sorry, John. I've been troubled for a while and expressing myself becomes nearly impossible when I get this way. Maybe another time. Your prayers would be appreciated.
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News Item3/6/13 5:16 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
By the way, I thought I was a "dispy" up until yesterday. Now, after reading through all of the posts, I'm not certain and have to look much further into it.
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News Item3/6/13 4:43 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
SteveR wrote:
Only invented because the label of 'heretic' doesnt fully capture the magnitude of Biblical illiteracy required to embrace dispensationalism

Stevo, if you expect to ever have any success in leaving me speechless over a profound or even fact based railing insult, you will have to do much, much better than this. My doctrinal comprehension on several Biblical topics need help, but I am oh so far from stupid.

About your comment:
...and this is coming from a guy who teaches and preaches that Roman Catholics are our brothers and sisters in Christ.
...and this is coming from a guy who tells his Roman Catholic friends to keep doing what they are doing and he'll see them in Heaven.
...and this is coming from a guy who may very well be held responsible, in the end, for misleading some Roman Catholics straight to Hell.

Hmmm. What was that you said about Biblical literacy again?

I don't care to fight with you and haven't stepped in your space, so why the flames?

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News Item3/6/13 3:09 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John U.K., you might find the answer in this sermon, The Coalition of Israel's Enemies.

But you can read the rather short commentary by Dr. Tom Ice on the topic, s Modern Israel Fulfilling Prophecy?

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News Item3/6/13 1:10 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lurker wrote:
Bro. John,
I am about to leave for the day but saw your post. The question was if Ezek 37 was not beginning to be fulfilled in 1948.... when? My answer based on scripture.... beginning with Paul's calling and ministry. Study the texts I've quoted and referenced and let me know your thoughts.
You've lost me brother. Could you give a simpler explanation for an old turnip?
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News Item3/6/13 12:19 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
John UK wrote:
I don't know where this is going, brother. But please do continue.
Bro. John,

I am about to leave for the day but saw your post. The question was if Ezek 37 was not beginning to be fulfilled in 1948.... when? My answer based on scripture.... beginning with Paul's calling and ministry. Study the texts I've quoted and referenced and let me know your thoughts.

SteveR wrote:
Only invented because the label of 'heretic' doesnt fully capture the magnitude of Biblical illiteracy required to embrace dispensationalism
God is somehow glorified by that comment?
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News Item3/6/13 12:09 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lurker wrote:
I'm probably going to regret this but here is a little from what I find relevant to the question from scripture.
I don't know where this is going, brother. But please do continue.
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News Item3/6/13 11:30 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
John UK wrote:
Now how do you see Ezek 37 panning out, if not 1948?
I'm probably going to regret this but here is a little from what I find relevant to the question from scripture.

Act 13:46-47 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, [saying], I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

Now to the source prophecy for the rest of the story....

Isa 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

I'm sure you've read Isaiah many times but did you know that the first 6 verses of chapter 49 speak specifically of Paul and the entire chapter speaks of the promises which would be fulfilled beginning with his ministry? These treasures go unnoticed when the bible is read like a book.

See also 2 Cor 6:2 and Is 49:8 for further verification.

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News Item3/6/13 11:17 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
jpw wrote:
So tell me, all, how one is chosen if they reject God and die in their sins?
An irrefutable argument is impossible to debate.
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News Item3/6/13 11:08 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Well, I'll reckon that SteveR is correct about "heretic", if protecting the titles and names and groups is more important than teaching the correct way to salvation through Christ alone!

This thread fails Solomon's test. The treasure is the gospel, adding or taking away from that is anathema.

So tell me, all, how one is chosen if they reject God and die in their sins?

Truly, if this matters not, then our love for Christ has gone cold for another wind is blowing through.

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News Item3/6/13 10:59 AM
Hear here  Find all comments by Hear here
Mike wrote:
Dispensationalists take note and remember: the lowering to name calling and pomposity is derived from a more enlightened biblical literacy.
A very good example of name calling by a FB preacher, who mistakes ignorant ranting for preaching will be found HERE

This is just one example among many on SA.

Even enlightened dispys descend to name calling.

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News Item3/6/13 10:47 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
SteveR wrote:
Only invented because the label of 'heretic' doesnt fully capture the magnitude of Biblical illiteracy required to embrace dispensationalism
Dispensationalists take note and remember: the lowering to name calling and pomposity is derived from a more enlightened biblical literacy.
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News Item3/6/13 10:30 AM
Ouch  Find all comments by Ouch
SteveR wrote:
Only invented because the label of 'heretic' doesnt fully capture the magnitude of Biblical illiteracy required to embrace dispensationalism
So you reckon that dispys are worse than RCs, who are heretics?
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News Item3/6/13 10:24 AM
SteveR | Upper Midwest  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
"Dispy" is essentially a term of disrespect
Only invented because the label of 'heretic' doesnt fully capture the magnitude of Biblical illiteracy required to embrace dispensationalism
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News Item3/6/13 10:24 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Christopher000 wrote:
Well, I guess I mean that because He is still going to fulfill His promises to them.
Am I wrong and they are no longer special? He is gathering them back to Israel, and I thought the Bible says that whoever blesses Israel will be blessed. Am I wrong, or is there much more to it?
seems to me that there are Jews and Gentiles dying everyday in their sins. Make no joke about it.... an atheist Jew and an atheist Gentile have no hope unless/until they are converted to Christ.

If they are truly chosen as a people, as a whole people, then they all will be saved.... of their sins.

Through their Messiah, who is our Messiah.

Watch out for false doctrines that would give another means of salvation other than Christ's work on the cross!

Because if there is another salvation, then the Jewish Messiah did not die for the Jews, how backward is that? And if so, Christ would have been a fool, for what good is it to die for a man who can be born again without conversion or atonement for their sins?

as a people group, will God do a work of converting many, I certainly hope so! This is something to pray for everyday!

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News Item3/6/13 10:15 AM
Just to be clear  Find all comments by Just to be clear
Mike wrote:
"Dispy" is essentially a term of disrespect used of those who hold to the method of biblical interpretation known as dispensationalism, by those who don't. Similar in use to "Fundie" of those who hold to the fundamental elements of the faith, but who are portrayed as fanatics or ignorant by the more "enlightened."
"method of biblical interpretation"? You're taking that as established, which is far from being the case.

We might add "Calvinist" for all who believe in the doctrines of Grace, or believers in "Displacement theology" for those who do not see a special place for the ethnic nation Israel in eschatology

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