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FRONT PAGE  |  7/25/2016
MONDAY, FEB 18, 2013  |  18 comments
Pope Benedict XVI’s leaked documents show fractured Vatican full of rivalries
Guests at the going-away party for Carlo Maria Viganò couldn’t understand why the archbishop looked so forlorn. Pope Benedict XVI had appointed Viganò ambassador to the United States, a plum post where he would settle into a stately mansion on Massachusetts Avenue, across the street from the vice president’s residence.

“He went through the ordeal making it very clear he was unhappy with it,” said one former ambassador to the Vatican, who attended the Vatican Gardens ceremony in the late summer of 2011. “And we just couldn’t figure out, us outsiders and non-Italians, what was going on.”

There was no such confusion within Vatican walls. Benedict had installed Viganò to enact a series of reforms within the Vatican. But some of Rome’s highest-ranking cardinals undercut the efforts and hastened Viganò’s exile to the United States. ...


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SteveR | Upper Midwest  Find all comments by SteveR
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News Item2/22/13 9:06 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Hew Merus wrote:
The best of Tim Vine?!
Correct!

"Now, most dentist's chairs go up and down, don't they? The one I was in went back and forwards. I thought 'This is unusual'. And the dentist said to me 'Mr Vine, get out of the filing cabinet.'"

And no, I'm not Brit-humour.

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News Item2/22/13 8:33 AM
Hew Merus  Find all comments by Hew Merus
Brit-humour wrote:
Beware of Alphabet Grenades..if you throw them, it could spell disaster!
So I saw this Scotsman and I asked him if he had spots when he was younger. He replied “Achh-neeee”.
I want to tell you a bit about myself.. I’m a very quiet and secretive person, and that’s it really.
I’ve just been on a once-in-a-lifetime holiday. I’ll tell you what...Never again
So I was getting into my car, and this bloke says to me Can you give me a lift?” I said “Sure, you look great, the world’s your oyster, go for it.
So I rang up British Telecom, I said "I want to report a nuisance caller", he said "Not you again".
So this cowboy walks in to a German car showroom and he says "Audi!"
I was reading this book today, The History Of Glue and I couldn't put it down.
So I went down the local supermarket, I said "I want to make a complaint, this vinegar's got lumps in it", he said "Those are pickled onions".
"I rang up a local building firm, I said 'I want a skip outside my house.' He said 'I'm not stopping you.'
"Exit signs - they're on the way out aren't they?."
Phoned the local gym and I asked if they could teach me how to do the splits. He said, "How flexible are you?" I said, "I can't make Tuesdays."
The best of Tim Vine?!
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News Item2/22/13 6:23 AM
Brit-humour  Find all comments by Brit-humour
Beware of Alphabet Grenades..if you throw them, it could spell disaster!
One arm butlers – they can take it but they can’t dish it out.
So I saw this Scotsman and I asked him if he had spots when he was younger. He replied “Achh-neeee”.
I want to tell you a bit about myself.. I’m a very quiet and secretive person, and that’s it really.
I’ve just been on a once-in-a-lifetime holiday. I’ll tell you what...Never again
So I was getting into my car, and this bloke says to me Can you give me a lift?” I said “Sure, you look great, the world’s your oyster, go for it.
So I rang up British Telecom, I said "I want to report a nuisance caller", he said "Not you again".
So this cowboy walks in to a German car showroom and he says "Audi!"
I was reading this book today, The History Of Glue and I couldn't put it down.
So I went down the local supermarket, I said "I want to make a complaint, this vinegar's got lumps in it", he said "Those are pickled onions".
"I rang up a local building firm, I said 'I want a skip outside my house.' He said 'I'm not stopping you.'
"Exit signs - they're on the way out aren't they?."
Phoned the local gym and I asked if they could teach me how to do the splits. He said, "How flexible are you?" I said, "I can't make Tuesdays."
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News Item2/20/13 2:59 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Hmm, I don't know how this came out incorrectly but the quotes I used from Martin Luther and John Calvin came from this article, The Pope and the Papacy.

It's laughable to think the Vatican ever had that much of a united front, The Bad Popes(Some of them) This little book by Chamberlain, an Anglican, is pretty good. It lacks perhaps some of the punch of a Protestant who recognizes the fact, Should Roman Catholicism really be classified as a Christian religion? -- No. (PDF). It probably can be picked up at such bookstores as Barnes & Noble. Anyway, the article I gave a URL for is definitely short!

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News Item2/19/13 5:05 PM
Ivan  Find all comments by Ivan
Christopher000 wrote:
Ivan, what I think is this: You once loved America and wanted to eventually have the privilege of calling yourself an American and have an American flag blowing in the wind hung up high on a pole on your new front lawn.
But...you were denied a green card, destroying your dream of ever becoming an American and now you are bitter, hating the America that you once loved.
How'd I do?
I assume that passes for humor in America.
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News Item2/19/13 5:02 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Ivan, what I think is this: You once loved America and wanted to eventually have the privilege of calling yourself an American and have an American flag blowing in the wind hung up high on a pole on your new front lawn.
But...you were denied a green card, destroying your dream of ever becoming an American and now you are bitter, hating the America that you once loved.

How'd I do? Yes, we have many bad preachers and the sitcoms are getting increasingly wicked, amongst many other bad things we are having to deal with.

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News Item2/19/13 3:57 PM
Ivan  Find all comments by Ivan
John UK wrote:
Don't know - what do you call a funny American comedian?
Canadian.
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News Item2/19/13 3:45 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Ivan wrote:
btw - what do you call a funny American comedian?
Don't know - what do you call a funny American comedian?
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News Item2/19/13 3:27 PM
Ivan  Find all comments by Ivan
Christopher000 wrote:
I thought humor was banned in the UK.
No, just unfunny American sitcoms. They experimented with a cunning plan to protect the people from them by putting them on pay tv satellites along with your ungospel preachers.

John UK wrote:
I used to have some great humorous exchanges here on SA, but your American brethren kept telling me off.
See what I mean?

John UK wrote:
But now you are here, with your superior wit, I've no doubt we could have some joyful exchanges without interference from the kill-joys.
We live in hope.

btw - what do you call a funny American comedian?

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News Item2/19/13 11:05 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
sourface wrote:
Did some one here mention 'humour' or even 'joy'?
YOU?
Be careful or our faces might stay this way
sour face
All together now.....

I see fields of green, red roses too

etc

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News Item2/19/13 10:32 AM
sourface  Find all comments by sourface
John UK wrote:
interference from the kill-joys.
Did some one here mention 'humour' or even 'joy'?
YOU?

Be careful or our faces might stay this way

sour face

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News Item2/19/13 10:21 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
John, look at you introducing us to your humorous side. I thought humor was banned in the UK. Maybe you should give stand up comedy a shot...you could be a travelling act to liven up some of those exciting tea and crumpet parties you all have there.
Alright, that was my lousy shot at humor...I've had better days.
You could call yourself, Johnny Rocket, Johnny the Comic, Jokin' Johnny, etc.
Alright, that's enough...my jokes need some major help today.
Ha! Made I smile, Christopher.

I used to have some great humorous exchanges here on SA, but your American brethren kept telling me off. But now you are here, with your superior wit, I've no doubt we could have some joyful exchanges without interference from the kill-joys.

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News Item2/19/13 8:02 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Naughty Joe.

John, look at you introducing us to your humorous side. I thought humor was banned in the UK. Maybe you should give stand up comedy a shot...you could be a travelling act to liven up some of those exciting tea and crumpet parties you all have there.
Alright, that was my lousy shot at humor...I've had better days.
You could call yourself, Johnny Rocket, Johnny the Comic, Jokin' Johnny, etc.
Alright, that's enough...my jokes need some major help today.

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News Item2/18/13 2:47 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Ivan wrote:
Is the Pope a Catholic?
Ivan idea he used to be, but maybe things got too hot and he will flee to join the Amish and grow a big beard. He may even meet the Druid Rowan Williams there.
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News Item2/18/13 2:31 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The pope has much more chance of being a Catholic than a Christian -- well a Christian is an impossibility for a pope.
John MacArthur wrote:
....
Martin Luther finally declared, quote: “We here are of the conviction that the Papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist. I owe the Pope no other obedience than that I owe to Antichrist.” Luther said, “I am persuaded that if at this time St. Peter in person should preach all the articles of holy Scripture and only deny the Pope’s authority, power and primacy and say that the Pope is not the head of all Christendom, they would cause him to be hanged. Yet if Christ Himself were again on earth and should preach without all doubt, the Pope would crucify Him again.” John Calvin, 1509 to 1564, “Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the Pontiff Antichrist, but those who are of this opinion do not consider that they bring the same charge of presumption against Paul himself after whom we speak and whose language we adopt. I shall briefly show that Paul’s words in 2 Thessalonians 2 are not capable of any other interpretation than that which implies them to the Papacy.” They saw in the Antichrist the Papacy, the Pope.
,...Pope..[/
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News Item2/18/13 2:20 PM
Ivan  Find all comments by Ivan
Is the Pope a Catholic?
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News Item2/18/13 1:51 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
There's always fighting on Vatican hill, Look at the first Vatican Council!
John W. Robbins wrote:
Not to take any chances at losing, however, the papacy demanded that debates be conducted in Latin, condemning, writes Himmelfarb, nine-tenths of the bishops to silence and the rest to confusion. The pope refused the bishops permission to examine the stenographic reports of their own speeches; he prohibited meetings of twenty or more bishops outside the council; he strictly censored literature, imprisoned and threatened recalcitrant bishops, and continued the time-honored tradition of the Roman post office opening letters suspected of heresies or error. It was declared to be a mortal sin to communicate anything that occurred in the Council. But all was not threats. The pope used promises of titles, positions and benefices to aid his cause as well: Fifteen cardinal’s hats were dangled before wavering bishops.
Despite these attempts to rig the Council, opposition to the notion of papal infallibility continued. Further steps were necessary. Debate was cut off, minority speakers interrupted, and the rules of order and debate were skewed to favor those who favored infallibility. The final text was rushed to the Council without any debate at all.
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