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WEDNESDAY, FEB 13, 2013| 67 comments
Canadian News Anchor Issues Ominous Warning to America: Gun Registration Will Lead to ‘Confiscation’
Living in Canada, Sun News Network anchor Brian Lilley has already seen where seemingly innocent gun control measures can lead. During a news broadcast this week, Lilley warned Americans that gun registration led to gun confiscation in Canada, and the same thing will happen in the U.S. if citizens don’t defend their Second Amendment rights.

Lilley also told the story of Ian Thompson, who was charged for defending himself with a firearm against four men firebombing his home in Canada.

“We are at a state in Canada where they don’t want you using firearms for anything. Ever,” Lilley said. “That’s the push. And as we look at what’s happening in the United States, that’s what’s happening.” ...


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News Item2/19/13 5:40 PM
Pax  Find all comments by Pax
Mike wrote:
Oh. So you find justification for the Roman dictatorship, for God wills and directs all things?
I find Daniel 7-9. It is very useful when someone gives an erroneous history lesson and then resorts to seeking to put words into my mouth.
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News Item2/19/13 5:26 PM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
there is hope wrote:
Society requires protection from and in a fallen world so God allows the military in all its forms...
Who protects society from the military in all its forms? Name something that has killed more human beings throughout history than the state. Death by the state far, far, far exceeds death by "mass murderers".
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News Item2/19/13 5:18 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Pax wrote:
No, they were there to execute judgment upon the unbelieving Jewish nation and bring an end to sacrifice and oblation according to the Messiah who wills and directs all things.
Oh. So you find justification for the Roman dictatorship, for God wills and directs all things? Except when the people decide to throw off dictatorship and institute new government. Only the dictatorship has the right to bear arms. After all, it is there to give you praise for doing good, isn't it?
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News Item2/19/13 4:18 PM
Pax  Find all comments by Pax
Mike wrote:
Need a history lesson? The Roman military at the time wasn't in the mideast to protect their citizens from a fallen world, but to subjugate people who weren't their citizens, thus giving fine example af fallenness in action. You should consider using your free will to stop blaming God for criminal Roman activity.
No, they were there to execute judgment upon the unbelieving Jewish nation and bring an end to sacrifice and oblation according to the Messiah who wills and directs all things.
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News Item2/19/13 4:08 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
there is hope wrote:
Society requires protection from and in a fallen world so God allows the military in all its forms.
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Need a history lesson? The Roman military at the time wasn't in the mideast to protect their citizens from a fallen world, but to subjugate people who weren't their citizens, thus giving fine example af fallenness in action. You should consider using your free will to stop blaming God for criminal Roman activity.
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News Item2/19/13 3:31 PM
there is hope  Find all comments by there is hope
Mike wrote:
Yet one of the Roman occupiers was called a just man who feared God. Somehow it must have got left out of Scripture the part where he was told he shouldn't be carrying assault swords and military hardware in the community.
Society requires protection from and in a fallen world so God allows the military in all its forms.

What God does not provide for in Scripture is the potential to arm everybody in the nation to administer assault rifle "justice" to criminals, as many posters have advocated.

The potential held in the so called "Right to bear arms" and the potential provided in the myriad American arsenal shopping facilities is America's deadliest societal philosophy. This is constantly proven in mass murders and the daily shooting of people all over the USA.

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News Item2/19/13 8:41 AM
just curious | USA  Find all comments by just curious
According to there is hope, we live in a country that is armed to hilt with guns owned by vigilantes. The Scriptures remind us to provide for our own (including their safety), seems like he has the biggest argument here to go out and buy a gun. But let us put the shoe on the other foot. He has sanctimoniously requested Bible verse support for owning a firearm. What Bible verse do you have saying that you are violating a command of God by owning one?
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News Item2/19/13 1:18 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Mike wrote:
Bro Lurker, I admire your patience with the this one.
Thanks for the encouragement, bro. I appreciate it.

Btw, do you hear the crickets too? Or is it just my tennitis....

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News Item2/18/13 7:59 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Lurker wrote:
Very well, then. A truce seems to be in order.
But you really need to reconsider the profitability of spinning facts, information and the comments of others into something ugly and untrue. Intentional misrepresentation is not becoming of a Christian and God is not glorified thereby.
It's in the "User's Guide, Ver. 21C" right after divinely inspired hermeneutics and bazookas but before computers, the internet and approved discussion forums.
Bro Lurker, I admire your patience with the this one.

there is hope wrote:
After all the Bible illustrates that we are not to advocate walking around with assault rifles and other military hardware in our community.
Yet one of the Roman occupiers was called a just man who feared God. Somehow it must have got left out of Scripture the part where he was told he shouldn't be carrying assault swords and military hardware in the community.
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News Item2/18/13 6:59 AM
Kyle | Tucson  Find all comments by Kyle
there is hope wrote:
After all the Bible illustrates that we are not to advocate walking around with assault rifles and other military hardware in our community.

Try as I might I can't find Jesus or Paul or anybody teaching, that as Christians we are to implore and impel our neighbours and children to arm themselves to the teeth to convey justice in the community.
Which verse do you find "assault rifle" in?

Again with the "justice" thing? Who is saying justice is every citizen's job? That charge of vigilantism just won't stop, will it?

In which verse do you find a reference to one's "community"?

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News Item2/17/13 11:19 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
there is hope wrote:
Re: "Christian perspective" That is what I am posting because I am a Christian.
Very well, then. A truce seems to be in order.

But you really need to reconsider the profitability of spinning facts, information and the comments of others into something ugly and untrue. Intentional misrepresentation is not becoming of a Christian and God is not glorified thereby.

there is hope wrote:
Which verse do you find "assault rifle" in?
It's in the "User's Guide, Ver. 21C" right after divinely inspired hermeneutics and bazookas but before computers, the internet and approved discussion forums.
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News Item2/17/13 3:13 PM
there is hope  Find all comments by there is hope
Lurker wrote:
And what of your moniker.... "there is hope"?
... a hint of a Christian perspective from you regarding the right to bear arms in this country.
Talking about monikers!
Is "Lurker" demonstrative of what you specifically are trying to convey in all your posts?

Re: "Christian perspective" That is what I am posting because I am a Christian. After all the Bible illustrates that we are not to advocate walking around with assault rifles and other military hardware in our community.

Try as I might I can't find Jesus or Paul or anybody teaching, that as Christians we are to implore and impel our neighbours and children to arm themselves to the teeth to convey justice in the community.
Which verse do you find "assault rifle" in?

ps Ever read "43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Matt 5.
= You see nothing about assault rifle as justice?

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Kyle wrote:
I mean, if you were not the victim of a crime, nobody ever will be ...
Love the sarcasm.
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News Item2/17/13 10:29 AM
Kyle | Tucson  Find all comments by Kyle
AIDS memoire wrote:
Yes it was on the news. That is how you heard about it. Stop your stupid rhetoric, it just displays your own ignorance.
Yes, but the main article was about the defensive shooter's guilt, not the fact that he stopped the shooting. That part if the story was NOT broadcast as far and as wide as the fact that there was a shooter killing people. It came out days later on a side story. Let's be fair.

While we're being fair, are you going to criticize the rhetoric on the other side? The right to bear arms caused the murders? People like me want to circumvent the law? We're full of murderous cravings?

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News Item2/17/13 8:36 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
AIDS memoire wrote:
Yes it was on the news. That is how you heard about it. Stop your stupid rhetoric, it just displays your own ignorance.
Run out of ideas? Tune in to BBC and get some more.
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News Item2/17/13 4:59 AM
William S. Sutherland | Houston, Texas  Find all comments by William S. Sutherland
The history of this world is full of examples of mass murder commited by those with firearms and the majority of people killed by mass murderers with firearms are victims of their own government. Every genocide that has been carried out by governments was preceeded by gun confiscation. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, etc. all agree that gun control works. And let's not forget the Armenians slaughtered by the Turkish government. And, by the way, if guns aren't available the murderers will use whatever is handy. Remember Rwanda? Oh, and I almost left out Winnie Mandela's use of necklacing (flaming tires around the necks) on other blacks who would not support the murderous ANC. And there's the ongoing murders of white farmers in South Africa and other African nations by machette or ax or whatever the government-sanctioned gangs can find to use on their unarmed victims.
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News Item2/17/13 1:07 AM
AIDS memoire  Find all comments by AIDS memoire
Kyle wrote:
For instance, the people in the mall in Oregon are glad that the shooter was stopped by another armed patron. Didn't hear about that on the news, did you?
Yes it was on the news. That is how you heard about it. Stop your stupid rhetoric, it just displays your own ignorance.
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News Item2/17/13 12:51 AM
Kyle | Tucson  Find all comments by Kyle
there is hope wrote:
As for personal protection from all these gun-toting criminals, well I've been all over the world, even to the USA, and never held or used a gun. Amazin eh?
I'm glad you didn't get hurt, but there are plenty of other people who are glad that someone was carrying. For instance, the people in the mall in Oregon are glad that the shooter was stopped by another armed patron. Didn't hear about that on the news, did you? Likewise with the Trolley Square shooting in 2007 that was stopped by an armed patron.

Since your experience was good, I guess we don't need police, huh? I mean, if you were not the victim of a crime, nobody ever will be. I'm assuming you weren't hospitalized when you visited either, so we can get rid of hospitals. Better yet, would you please list the services you used so we know what the only services are that we should retain? Do you have any active insurance policies?

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News Item2/16/13 11:09 PM
Troll kalla mik  Find all comments by Troll kalla mik
Lurker wrote:
And what of your moniker.... "there is hope"? The only sure hope is "Christ in you, the hope of glory" yet not so much as a hint of a Christian perspective from you regarding the right to bear arms in this country.
I think you've been trolling.
Ah, the "Christian perspective" of ugly totalitarian thought control which cannot abide disagreement on secondary issues.
Anyone who disagrees with your "Christian perspective" is to have their own Christian faith challenged.

Trolling is in the eye of the beholder.

Have a truly blessed Lord's Day.

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News Item2/16/13 10:18 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
there is hope wrote:
Thankyou for your honesty Lurker.
But I don't expect to change America's Constitution, nor do I think America will, it's only a debate for me. I have actually never owned a gun of any description in my life, nor saw the need for it. We do not have gun stores here except for shotguns for those who need them such as farmers, gamekeepers etc.
As for personal protection from all these gun-toting criminals, well I've been all over the world, even to the USA, and never held or used a gun. Amazin eh?
Just a debate?

If your intent was to sharpen your sabre rattling skills I would think you would at least be honest. Otherwise any victory you may win by manipulating and misrepresenting the comments of others is empty.

And what of your moniker.... "there is hope"? The only sure hope is "Christ in you, the hope of glory" yet not so much as a hint of a Christian perspective from you regarding the right to bear arms in this country.

I think you've been trolling.

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News Item2/16/13 3:52 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
there is hope Well, as I've pointed out to Mike of N.Y., on more than once about Five myths about gun control.

Actually, even with countries with gun controls, don't have their problems solved by them, gun controls doesn't bring the knowledge of How to Have Victory Over Sin. In fact if your England, you can explain, Joyce Lee Malcolm: Two Cautionary Tales of Gun Control.

So, there are some things that can be done to help, but NRA Gun Control Crusade Reflects Firearms Industry Financial Ties, money talks more loudly than reason in our Halls of Congress.

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