An Arkansas public school district has banned youth pastors and other religious groups from visiting during school hours after a Wisconsin group filed a complaint and called the practice “predatory.”
“We have temporarily suspended allowing these youth pastors and other faith based leaders to come in during the lunch hour and we are reviewing policy and the law,” Conway Public School Supt. Greg Murry told Fox News.
The school district has retained the services of Liberty Institute, a law firm known for handling religious liberty cases....
Pastor Mike wrote: Hey Lurker, I know I give you a hard time, but just wanted to say that I do appreciate the things you write. Your posts are high quality and genuinely get me to think. I'll remember this discussion for a long time. Thanks so much.
Looks like you may have had a wasted theological education if what Lurker wrote is new to you!
Big difference wrote: I did not mention genocide or purification. I see you have to lie to make a point.
Oops, my bad! I meant to change the author tag to attribute the quote to Christopher000 who was the one who wrote that, but looks like I forgot. So sorry!!!
Pastor Mike wrote: So it's only genocide when ordered by somebody like Hitler. It's "purification" when ordered by God
I did not mention genocide or purification. I see you have to lie to make a point.
Satan is the father of lies... Jn 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Clearly the atheist cannot receive the truth, the ability to do so is not in them.
Faith separates the Christian from the atheist, thus knowledge and truth are Christian attributes.
I'm not into a denomination either. There is way too many, they all think their way is right. I stick to the cross, that was is and will always be my only hope. Maybe they forgot what brought them to their crosses and got too swelled with knowledge and like to beat people down with theology and scriptures. Sad... No wonder why Sunday services are not full anymore. God help us.
Instead of theological debates why don't you just try living out faith like an authentic Christian would. Theology means nothing to God, do you think he's gonna ask how much you know? Or what denomination you are? No . I doubt it. Clean up your own back yard before you step in mine.
Adusty, I am not into denominations , theological debates about faith and scripture , I'm just a man who believes and accepts Jesus as my savior . I believe what the bible says. I keep it simple...... Either you are a believer or you are not.
Pastor Mike wrote: this is the same God who ordered genocide and human sacrifice
The atheist assumes that he knows what we Christians know. What he fails to perceive is that faith brings with it access, by the Holy Spirit, to truth, knowledge and understanding which the reprobate does not have.
The atheist is not aware of the power and influence of sin within the mortal. He is under the dominion of sin which separates him from God, grace, His wisdom, Knowledge and truth.
Simply put the atheist cannot read Scripture.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace
Lurker wrote: Unless you've got something further to add or need more clarification, I'm done.
Hey Lurker, I know I give you a hard time, but just wanted to say that I do appreciate the things you write. Your posts are high quality and genuinely get me to think. I'll remember this discussion for a long time. Thanks so much.
Christopher000 wrote: Doesn't. Abrahm tell Issac, when asked where the sacrifice was, "the Lord will provide Himself a sacrifice? I hope I have that right but it sounded to me like Abrahm knew that God would provode an alternate sacrifice, and that sacrifice would be symbolic of Christs death. Besides, didn't God promise Abrahm that Isaac would lead a nation or something similar? If so, Abrahm knew that God was not a liar and would be faithful to fulfill His promise. Wouldn't Abrahm have known, because of this, that God had something else in mind? I see it as a test of Abrahm's faith.
It certainly was, and he fully expected to offer up Isaac as sacrifice.
Hebrews 11:17-19 KJV 17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
You are right about the promises of God regarding Isaac, so this was why Abraham knew that Isaac would not perish, even if he offered him up and took the knife to him. He knew that God could raise him up again.
Christopher000 wrote: God didn't order human sacrifice.
What our athiest friend is doing is known as baiting..... making claims he knows will outrage to see what kind of response it draws. There is no winning an argument with an athiest for they reject God and every word He spoke and will never submit to the truth of scripture. The point is, if you engage an athiest pick your arguments and don't allow yourself to be drawn away by rabbit trails which will only entangle and accomplish their purpose.
Doesn't. Abrahm tell Issac, when asked where the sacrifice was, "the Lord will provide Himself a sacrifice? I hope I have that right but it sounded to me like Abrahm knew that God would provode an alternate sacrifice, and that sacrifice would be symbolic of Christs death. Besides, didn't God promise Abrahm that Isaac would lead a nation or something similar? If so, Abrahm knew that God was not a liar and would be faithful to fulfill His promise. Wouldn't Abrahm have known, because of this, that God had something else in mind? I see it as a test of Abrahm's faith.
Christopher000 wrote: God didn't order human sacrifice. Abraham knew that God would have never taken Isaac's life because it would have made Him a liar, nullifying God's promise to Abraham concerning Isaac's future role.
Truth is, from other parts of scripture, that Abraham fully expected to sacrifice Isaac, and that God would bring him back from the dead by resurrection.
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