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FRONT PAGE  |  11/25/2015
MONDAY, JAN 14, 2013  |  10 comments
Hospitals crack down on staff refusing flu shots

Patients can refuse a flu shot. Should doctors and nurses have that right, too? That is the thorny question surfacing as U.S. hospitals increasingly crack down on employees who won't get flu shots, with some workers losing their jobs over their refusal.

"Where does it say that I am no longer a patient if I'm a nurse," wondered Carrie Calhoun, a longtime critical care nurse in suburban Chicago who was fired last month after she refused a flu shot.

Hospitals' get-tougher measures coincide with an earlier-than-usual flu season hitting harder than in recent mild seasons. Flu is widespread in most states, and at least 20 children have died. ...

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jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Jim -- I'd encourage you to find out how George Washington died.

Its sometimes hard to separate superstition from common sense.

I've yet to meet anyone who thinks washing hands is bad for you (seems to be rather concluded that washing hands is good, don't see anyone debating this), however, there were many generations taught by doctors in Europe over the ages that taking a bath was dangerous.

Remember to take your formaldehyde, octlyphenol ethoxylate,
thimerasol, and egg proteins or aborted fetal cell (cells reproduced from tissue of aborted fetus), because this is what gives you good health......not the sunshine, cleansing water, food, and other Provision of God.


News Item1/15/13 3:04 PM
John Beechy  Find all comments by John Beechy
Vaccination, known to be witchcraft and superstitious, is a religious belief and a religious practice typically pushed by State Supremacists in order to further their satanic religious agenda of violence.

It is written: "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."


News Item1/15/13 2:39 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Got your flu shot, jpw?

It seems that there is this idea that people think they can ignore standards, as long as the do it under the guise of religious belief, in this country, usually Christianity. Of course they can be fired if they don't get flu shots. What if they refuse to wash their hands when working amongst various patients? They can point out Christ's disciples didn't wash their hands?

Matthew 15
2 "Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread."---NASB

Christ then made a theological point, not one about healthy behavior.

I be for the firing of any healthcare worker who didn't wash their hands between patient visits, etc.

Fire them! Also the ones who don't get proper vaccinations!

But surprise, I'm somewhat pleased that this came about, BBC News - British Airways Christian employee Nadia Eweida wins case, though of course crucifixes, q.v., A Short Guide to Occult Symbols: From Crescents to Crosses (PDF). So, I'm sad, but not hostile to people having their idols--in this case.


News Item1/15/13 12:54 PM
ChrisF | Indiana  Find all comments by ChrisF
If patients were truly concerned about contracting the flu from a health care worker, why don't THEY get immunized, instead of making the rest of us risk potentially disabling, even deadly, side effects from the shot? No health care worker should have to be degraded like this, forced to undergo an invasive procedure to "protect" patients who refuse it.

News Item1/14/13 10:45 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
under -- there are plenty who take this stuff without compulsion..... based on faith.

News Item1/14/13 10:13 PM
underChristmybodybelongstome  Find all comments by underChristmybodybelongstome
jpw wrote:
tells you something that even under such pressure and complusion that medical professionals would refuse it.
No it does not.
It tells me something that you take such a utilitarian approach and concede that employers can violate your body if they can "prove" their concoctions are safe.

Make a stand on principle, not pragmatics.


News Item1/14/13 9:58 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
tells you something that even under such pressure and complusion that medical professionals would refuse it.

News Item1/14/13 5:41 PM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
My wife works for a department at a major university where a handful of doctors will not get vaccinated because of cases of serious side affects and the ineffectiveness of the current vaccination.

News Item1/14/13 11:59 AM
underChristmybodybelongstome  Find all comments by underChristmybodybelongstome
BroBill wrote:
If people in the healthcare field who are more educated are refusing these vaccines, maybe they aren't as safe as our "government" says they are.
It does not matter if the vaccines are safe.
People have the right not to have their bodies violated by intrusive medical procedures - all the more so when there are no compelling medical or criminal grounds for doing so!

News Item1/14/13 11:30 AM
BroBill | Montana  Find all comments by BroBill
If people in the healthcare field who are more educated are refusing these vaccines, maybe they aren't as safe as our "government" says they are.
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