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Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides
Chicago reached “a tragic number” today, according to Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy: Its homicide total for the year hit 500, the highest annual total since 2008.

The city's latest homicide occurred around 9 p.m. Thursday when Nathaniel T. Jackson, 40, an alleged gang member with a lengthy arrest record, was gunned down outside a store in the Austin neighborhood.

As of Thursday night, homicides were up 17 percent over last year in Chicago and shootings had increased by 11 percent, according to police statistics. Earlier this fall, Chicago already exceeded the number of homicides that occurred last year, but this is the first time the city has had 500 or more murders since the 512 in 2008. ...


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Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
most are saved in their minds wrote:
Most Americans walk around with an algorithm that tells them they are saved....
Alas, far too often mechanics are substituted for being born from above. Thus too many professed Christians never make their calling and election sure or examine themselves whether they are in the faith. The Bible declares we are to pursue (implying activity on our part) holiness without which no man shall see the Lord. Many fall under the condemnation of saying they know Him but are walking in darkness and being called by the God who will judge them a liar. May God give us the grace to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and walk in a way that pleases Him.
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News Item1/5/13 8:40 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
most are saved in their minds wrote:
...because a preacher gave them an assurance of salvation.
Quite right. It is God's plan that he alone gives full assurance of salvation by his Spirit and through his word.
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most are saved in their minds  Find all comments by most are saved in their minds
Most Americans walk around with an algorithm that tells them they are saved. Be it a leaflet they signed, a campfire prayer, a Billy Graham crusade on TV, or raising their hand in a service, they know they're saved because a preacher gave them an assurance of salvation. Now they might be divorced for the third or fourth time, haven't been to a live service in 15 years, and are living with someone else but they'll assure you their sins are covered. They know, that they know, that they know, that they're saved.
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takeheed  Find all comments by takeheed
John UK wrote:
There was a time Christopher when I gave out chick tracts..
John is wise and correct.

Also:

'Jack Chick has a history of publishing sensational stories that proved to be false testimonies, such as John Todd and the Closet Witches (Rebecca Brown and Elaine). This should be an alarm bell in itself. Chick should have been required to provide significant proof Rivera is for real. Based on the fact that Chick has printed fraudulent testimonies in the past, it is very risky to accept Chick's response the he knows Rivera was for real because he prayed about it.'

Having once spent months researching Alberto Rivera and being involved in a debate several years ago, the only witness was another supposed former RC Priest who said that the Pope signed Rivera's death warranty with a golden pen and invisible ink! How convenient! Contacting brethren in the country where this guy lived (Canada) there was no evidence he had even existed, never mind a witness to Rivera. Conveniently he then had cancer and couldn't answer any emails

You don't need conspiracy nuts or sensational claims as there are plenty of proven sound resources by real former RC priests see

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News Item1/4/13 5:48 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
The sinner's prayer bothers me because, like you said, people seem to view it as some magical formula that, once uttered, saves the eternal soul. For the rest of their lives, no matter how those lives were lived, those people reflect back to the time when they said the universal prayer, and say with seeming confidence, "yeah, I'm saved".
I'm also bothered by alter calls where people are left to fend for themselves afterwards without any kind of consistent followups, instruction, etc, etc.
Quite so, and the scriptural promise that "whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" needs careful handling with good instruction.
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News Item1/4/13 4:58 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
The sinner's prayer bothers me because, like you said, people seem to view it as some magical formula that, once uttered, saves the eternal soul. For the rest of their lives, no matter how those lives were lived, those people reflect back to the time when they said the universal prayer, and say with seeming confidence, "yeah, I'm saved".
I'm also bothered by alter calls where people are left to fend for themselves afterwards without any kind of consistent followups, instruction, etc, etc.
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News Item1/4/13 3:57 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
Thanks for the tip, John UK. Good thing I never perused past that particular page then. To be honest, I didn't even know it was an end times site. I just had that page bookmarked for my RCC studies.
There was a time Christopher when I gave out chick tracts, which are a comic style story, easy to read and with a quite powerful message. But there were two things which grieved me about them, and I stopped using them in my evangelism. The first was the "sinner's prayer" at the end of each tract, a typical formula style prayer which, once you've said it, you are now a Christian and need to start acting like one. The second was the pictorial representation of God the Father, who is an invisible spirit. Something like that can adversely affect our perception of God.

It was while we were talking about allegory that reminded me of it.

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News Item1/4/13 10:58 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Lurker wrote:
Sorry Mike,
I said, in so many words, it is our responsibility to first learn what God said and then learn what He meant. You replied "Sometimes he even means what he says." I think we will agree that God always meant what He said.
The question of owing His meaning, or not, is ours which I hoped to demonstrate by quoting Jesus' statement to Martha with His followup question "Believest thou this?".
Obviously, no one who is a believer would answer no, so in order to honestly answer yes, how must we understand His statement?
An answer isn't necessary, Mike, for we both know "It is appointed unto man once to die" but a quickened, regenerated soul will never taste of the second death. The point is; the things God said can, and often does, mean different things to different people but there is only one meaning which is the mind of God.
Amen.
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News Item1/4/13 7:25 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
BTW, C000 chick is not a very good place to get knowledge about the endtime judgment doctrine.

Thanks for the tip, John UK. Good thing I never perused past that particular page then. To be honest, I didn't even know it was an end times site. I just had that page bookmarked for my RCC studies.

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News Item1/3/13 11:03 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Mike wrote:
I'm not sure what you seek here, Lurker, but I see no qualification in the Lord's statement.
Sorry Mike,

I said, in so many words, it is our responsibility to first learn what God said and then learn what He meant. You replied "Sometimes he even means what he says." I think we will agree that God always meant what He said.

The question of owing His meaning, or not, is ours which I hoped to demonstrate by quoting Jesus' statement to Martha with His followup question "Believest thou this?".

Obviously, no one who is a believer would answer no, so in order to honestly answer yes, how must we understand His statement?

An answer isn't necessary, Mike, for we both know "It is appointed unto man once to die" but a quickened, regenerated soul will never taste of the second death. The point is; the things God said can, and often does, mean different things to different people but there is only one meaning which is the mind of God.

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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
YUK. You spelled woffles wrong; it is waffles and there is no such thing as a "rasher" of bacon.
Frank, I just checked in the freezer and you are quite correct, they are Birds Eye Potato Waffles. My guess is with all the woffling going on here, it affected my spelling.

But I know not what is wrong with a rasher of bacon. Although after Babe [LTRU] I'm not sure I can eat any more.

Good night!

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Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Ha! The worldlings do such funny things. Makes I larf.
I did a funny thing this morning. For breakfast I made: Two potato woffles, two rashers of bacon, a boiled egg, a sprinkling of beans, and two Linda McCartney vegetarian sausages. It was the biggest breakfast I've ever made for myself. And tomorrow I am going to do the same again with added tomatoes.
YUK. You spelled woffles wrong; it is waffles and there is no such thing as a "rasher" of bacon.
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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Okay, this is a little off topic, but I have to share it. In 1965 I was stationed in Germany with the military. I was at this bar and this German fellow took the deckle, (I think that is what they were called) that was under my beer and ate it, swallowed the whole thing. I don't blame the fellow that a US soldier was occupying his country and he was really angry. Sort of the same thing, but totally different reasoning and circumstance. I think I could think of better ways to show my displeasure.
Ha! The worldlings do such funny things. Makes I larf.

I did a funny thing this morning. For breakfast I made: Two potato woffles, two rashers of bacon, a boiled egg, a sprinkling of beans, and two Linda McCartney vegetarian sausages. It was the biggest breakfast I've ever made for myself. And tomorrow I am going to do the same again with added tomatoes.

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News Item1/3/13 4:57 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Well Frank, it's a new one on me, so when you are best able to explain it all to me, let us please look at this, and give me a chance to put myself straight.
Ha! Don't that just take the biscuit?!
No, it is NOT a real biscuit.
Oh I forgot to tell you about the chap who took my tract. Real wiseguy. He first of all tore it up, and then proceeded to eat it. Swallowed the lot.
Okay, this is a little off topic, but I have to share it. In 1965 I was stationed in Germany with the military. I was at this bar and this German fellow took the deckle, (I think that is what they were called) that was under my beer and ate it, swallowed the whole thing. I don't blame the fellow that a US soldier was occupying his country and he was really angry. Sort of the same thing, but totally different reasoning and circumstance. I think I could think of better ways to show my displeasure.

So, the biscuit isn't a real biscuit, then you have created your own metaphor or analogy. WELL DONE.

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News Item1/3/13 4:32 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Yes, you did get it correctly. Straight up to meet Christ and then straight down to reign with Him. It will be 3 1/2 years after the antichrist signs a treaty with Israel to protect them. Give or take a few days, maybe.
But, if you are still confused, then let's you and I agree not to go there on this round. I have someone here working on the house and I can't concentrate. That will happen to you also when you get my age. Just ask Lurker, he is catching up to me. But, I have to admit, I never had a brain that worked as well as his or yours, so maybe it won't happen to either or you.
Well Frank, it's a new one on me, so when you are best able to explain it all to me, let us please look at this, and give me a chance to put myself straight.

Ha! Don't that just take the biscuit?!

No, it is NOT a real biscuit.

Oh I forgot to tell you about the chap who took my tract. Real wiseguy. He first of all tore it up, and then proceeded to eat it. Swallowed the lot.

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News Item1/3/13 4:10 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Frank, you make me feel a little younger, and for that I give you my hearty thanks!
So let's get this straight: there is a time of tribulation, then the saints will be raptured up, then they will be brought back to reign with Christ for 1000 years?
Well let me know when this tribulation is to commence, and I will head off to the top of Snowdon to make my rapture a bit easier.
Yes, you did get it correctly. Straight up to meet Christ and then straight down to reign with Him. It will be 3 1/2 years after the antichrist signs a treaty with Israel to protect them. Give or take a few days, maybe.

But, if you are still confused, then let's you and I agree not to go there on this round. I have someone here working on the house and I can't concentrate. That will happen to you also when you get my age. Just ask Lurker, he is catching up to me. But, I have to admit, I never had a brain that worked as well as his or yours, so maybe it won't happen to either or you.

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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Me too! But, if you just remember, there will be a post-trib rapture, then a "literal" thousand year reign of Christ, then you will be on the right track.
Even though you are my younger brother, you do make me think though.
Frank, you make me feel a little younger, and for that I give you my hearty thanks!

So let's get this straight: there is a time of tribulation, then the saints will be raptured up, then they will be brought back to reign with Christ for 1000 years?

Well let me know when this tribulation is to commence, and I will head off to the top of Snowdon to make my rapture a bit easier.

Mike
If you answer Lurker's question, "Believest thou this?"
you will discover what he is up to.

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News Item1/3/13 3:43 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Lurker wrote:
True, Mike.
Jhn 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Can you answer without qualification?
I'm not sure what you seek here, Lurker, but I see no qualification in the Lord's statement.
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Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Ah, Frank and US, I find the Book of Revelation most difficult to understand. I believe it is all true, but I have not the wherewithal to interpret it. I have the same problem with much of OT prophecy, from which the Revelation gets much of its language. Each year I read it through, and I am sure it blesses me, especially with regard to the awesomeness of God, but the details elude me as to endtimes.
Me too! But, if you just remember, there will be a post-trib rapture, then a "literal" thousand year reign of Christ, then you will be on the right track.

Even though you are my younger brother, you do make me think though.

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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Neil wrote:
KJV “mansions” in John 14:2 translates the Gk. monē (G3438), which in means “dwelling place” (per the NASB), not necessarily a fancy one like Blenheim Palace or Hearst Castle. Some dictionaries mention this as an archaic definition for “mansion,” in which case the KJV rendering was OK for its day.
That is right, Neil. They should have listened to Wycliffe as per his 1395 Bible:

John 14:2 Wycliffe
In the hous of my fadir ben many dwellyngis; if ony thing lesse, Y hadde seid to you, for Y go to make redi to you a place.

or the Geneva 1587
In my Fathers house are many dwelling places: if it were not so, I would haue tolde you: I go to prepare a place for you.

Ah, Frank and US, I find the Book of Revelation most difficult to understand. I believe it is all true, but I have not the wherewithal to interpret it. I have the same problem with much of OT prophecy, from which the Revelation gets much of its language. Each year I read it through, and I am sure it blesses me, especially with regard to the awesomeness of God, but the details elude me as to endtimes.

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