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THURSDAY, DEC 20, 2012  |  46 comments  |  1 commentary
Let Us Prey: Big Trouble at First Baptist Church

A string of assaults and sexual crimes committed by pastors across the country have one thing in common: The perpetrators have ties to the megachurch in Hammond, Indiana.

In the beginning—1959, in this case—Jack Hyles arrived at the First Baptist Church of Hammond as a skinny, charismatic Bible thumper with a Southern-fried drawl and a couple of cheap suits. No one could have imagined he would grow into the larger-than-life figure whom critics would dub the Godfather and others would consider the Chosen One.

Born in the tiny Dallas suburb of Italy, Hyles often preached about his alcoholic father, his devoted and deeply conservative Christian mother, and the curse of growing up poor. After serving in the army in World War II, he married his sweetheart, Beverly Slaughter. The fire-and-brimstone words of his mother burning in his head, Hyles then enrolled at East Texas Baptist College in Marshall, ...


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News Item12/26/12 10:16 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Observer wrote:
You, "ups", Are Still A Liar .d
I am not the one missing the obvious and trying to ignore the facts. My quote, by the way, was from the Christian Post not chicagomag.com. The man committed adultery and child molestation. He broke his vows to his wife and his church. He brought shame to the cause of Christ. Dr. Hyles problems are verified in the mouth of many witnesses, the most condemning being his own daughter. You appear deceived in your thinking Observer. Calling me and others names and railing accusations against us does not demonstrate a Christian spirit. Look up Jeremiah 17:5 and meditate upon it because you are exalting the man above the laws of God. (see the 7th commandment)
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News Item12/26/12 8:20 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I should add that I could be completely missing something...wouldn't be the first time...ha-ha.
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News Item12/26/12 7:30 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Observer, I'm trying to understand why you are hating on Unprofitable Servant for only mentioning what is a matter of public record. I guess you must have been close with Mr Schaap, but he was convicted, not only by testimonies, but by his own mouth. He admitted his own
guilt.
Are you trying to argue that it was all a conspiracy because he would have been conspiring against himself as well.
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News Item12/26/12 3:47 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
You, "ups", Are Still A Liar In Your Judicial Lies About Me; But, The Word Of GOD Still Stands:

"He That Justifieth The Wicked (The Fag-Mag-'chicagomag.com'), And He That Condemneth The Just (Brothers Jack Hyles & Schaap), Even They Both Are Abomination To The LORD."--Proverbs 17:15 !

I Reckon The Wicked & Abominable "ups" & 'chicago(fag-)mag.com' Love Each Others' Company--After All, Misery Does Love Company !

But I Love The Company Of The Just:

"Let Me Say Something, Have You Ever Noticed; The Bigger You Get The Less Fundamental You Get. Now There's An Exception To That--I, In The Occult I Didn't Have Any Heroes. Now I Like John Wayne...Now My Heroes Are Heroes That Were Enemies To Us When I Was In The Occult. The Most Feared Man In The World Is A Baptist Fundamental Preacher By The Name Of Jack Hyles. He Is The Most Feared Person, In Fact There Was Barely A Month Went By That That Man's Name Didn't Come Up In Some Way. Why? By Serveral Doctrines He Preaches; On Armed Christians For One, On Preparing For The End Times; That Christians Will See Trouble Before The Rapture, Their Requirement Of Christian Retreats, Separation Of The Christian From The World--That Really Scares The Illuminati...

WHEN I WAS IN WITCHCRAFT I NEVER CONSIDERED
CHRISTIANITY..."--John Todd

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News Item12/24/12 6:01 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
UPS, you made a rational comment to Observer, (AKA Tony Cisneros?) may you get through to him. (It is obvious that he likes, whoever he is, Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists ).
What would be better is that many of the shorn sheep of 1st Baptist pick another good church in the Hammond area, e.g., Christmas Eve Candlelight Service--Monday, December 24th at 7:00 PM.These folks won't receive Red Hot Preaching theatrics they get at 1st Bap... but they will have a good chance of hearing about Christ in the right way, as no doubt there are some other churches in the area do follow Christ also.
You folks that want to try a Christian Church today, this is a good opportunity since most will have services in one or two hours!
It is time to take notice, Jack Schaap -- The apple did not fall from the far from the Hyles' sad legacy!
actually, I figured that Observer's (aka Street preacher)response would be removed by moderator
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News Item12/24/12 5:14 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
UPS, you made a rational comment to Observer, (AKA Tony Cisneros?) may you get through to him. (It is obvious that he likes, whoever he is, Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists ).

What would be better is that many of the shorn sheep of 1st Baptist pick another good church in the Hammond area, e.g., Christmas Eve Candlelight Service--Monday, December 24th at 7:00 PM.These folks won't receive Red Hot Preaching theatrics they get at 1st Bap... but they will have a good chance of hearing about Christ in the right way, as no doubt there are some other churches in the area do follow Christ also.

You folks that want to try a Christian Church today, this is a good opportunity since most will have services in one or two hours!

It is time to take notice, Jack Schaap -- The apple did not fall from the far from the Hyles' sad legacy!

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News Item12/24/12 4:42 PM
UPS | Georgia  Find all comments by UPS
Observer wrote:
Well, You Juducial...
You best read your KJV because it clearly says,
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD (Proverbs 17:15)
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News Item12/24/12 3:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
You know, Mr. Schaap could write some things well, but he just couldn't follow what he wrote!

Jack Schaap said,

When it comes to marriage, I want to live by the rules. As a marriage counselors, I'm weary of couples wo come asking me to make exceptions to the rules because they just don't see it the same way God does. .. Nobody has a right to decide if they are an exception to the rule. Decide to be a person who lives by the rules.

"For one to believe that God inspired the King James Version of the Bible, he would be espousing Catholic or charsmatic theology. Both groups theologically believe that God can and does still "speak" today, either though the papal office "ex cathedra," or by way of a "a word of knowledge," supposedly used to more perfectly and accurately pronounce and define God's will for man. Kindly put, that theological position is heresy to those of us who believe that the Words of Scripture were ended with the completion of John's finished manuscript of The revelation approximately 95-100 A.D." ---Jack Schaap from his book, --- Where are We Going?

As noted before, Jack Schaap -- The apple did not fall from the far from the Hyles' sad legacy!

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News Item12/24/12 10:32 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jesus Christ wrote:
Judge Not...
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them " (Rom. 16:17)
"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which ye received of us " (II Thess. 3:6) Matthew 7 15-20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." read the entire passage, it does not say don't judge, it says the judgment you use will be the standard to which you are held it says how to judge(after removing your beam you can see clearly to take out their splinter) and that you must exercise judgment on the fruits that we see. I will be first to say, but for the grace of God, there g
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News Item12/24/12 10:17 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
"24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." - John 7:24

"2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" - 1 Corinthians 6:2-3

"Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged." - Luke 7:43

"I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?" - 1 Corinthians 6:5

"Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?" - 1 Corinthians 11:13

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." - Ephesians 5:11

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News Item12/24/12 10:13 AM
lust of the flesh  Find all comments by lust of the flesh
Jesus Christ wrote:
Judge Not, That Ye Be Not Judged.
For With What Judgment Ye Judge, Ye Shall Be Judged: And With What Measure Ye Mete, It Shall Be Meassured To You Again.
Judge Not, And Ye Shall Not Be Judged: Condemn Not, And Ye Shall Not Be Condemned: Forgive, And Ye Shall Be Forgiven.
Take Heed To Yourselves: If Thy Brother Trespass Against Thee, Rebuke Him; And If He Repent, Forgive Him.
And If He Trespass Against Thee Seven Times In A Day, And Seven Times In A Day Turn Again To Thee, Saying, I Repent; Thou Shalt Forgive Him.
It's not only the pics of Preacher Schaap and a 16 year old making out on his cell phone but what else was Jack surfing on his handheld? Only Jesus Christ, Jack and his service provider will ever know.
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News Item12/24/12 10:00 AM
Jesus Christ  Find all comments by Jesus Christ
Judge Not, That Ye Be Not Judged.

For With What Judgment Ye Judge, Ye Shall Be Judged: And With What Measure Ye Mete, It Shall Be Meassured To You Again.

Judge Not, And Ye Shall Not Be Judged: Condemn Not, And Ye Shall Not Be Condemned: Forgive, And Ye Shall Be Forgiven.

Take Heed To Yourselves: If Thy Brother Trespass Against Thee, Rebuke Him; And If He Repent, Forgive Him.

And If He Trespass Against Thee Seven Times In A Day, And Seven Times In A Day Turn Again To Thee, Saying, I Repent; Thou Shalt Forgive Him.

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News Item12/24/12 9:51 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
God knows his heart. I see a man who did not stop his sinful practice until he was caught and convicted. That does not sound like true repentance to me. Where in any of your comments, Observer, is any sympathy for the girl he violated and her family? Where is your empathy for the members of FBC he violated as a pastor with his actions? You cannot say he was falsely accused when he admits to the crime in federal court. First Corinthians 5:11-13 (KJV) "But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."
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News Item12/24/12 9:41 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Well, You Juducial-"Lewd Fellows Of The Baser Sort" Can Continue Gorging Yourselves On The Filth & Sins Of Another--

I'm Going Soul-Winning Now,

*Instead Of Paying Mind To Your Filthy Minds, Hearts, Souls & Spirits !

"This (U.S. Historic King James Holy Bible) Book Of The Law Shall Not Depart Out Of Thy Mouth; But Thou Shalt Meditate Therein Day And Night, That Thous Mayest Observe To Do According To All That Is Written Therein: For Then Thou Shalt Make Thy Way Prosperous, And Then Thou Shalt Have Good Success." Joshua 1:8

"All Scripture Is Given By Inspiration Of God, And Is Profitable For Doctrine, For Reproof, For Correction, For Instruction In Righteousness:" 2 Timothy 3:16

"For There Are Three That Bear Record In Heaven, The Father, The Word, And The Holy Ghost: And These Three Are One." 1 John 5:7

"And We Know That The Son Of God Is Come, And Hath Given Us An Understanding, That We May Know Him That Is True, And We Are In Him That Is True, Even In His Son Jesus Christ. This Is The True God, And Eternal Life." 1 John 5:20

"Take Heed Therefore Unto Yourselves, And To All The Flock, Over The Which The Holy Ghost Hath Made You Overseers, To Feed The Church Of God, Which He Hath Purchased With His Own Blood." Acts 20:28

**HE THAT WINNETH SOULS IS WISE !**

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News Item12/24/12 9:33 AM
Evidence. Admit. Guilt. Prison  Find all comments by Evidence. Admit. Guilt. Prison
Megachurch pastor axed over cell pics of makeout session with teen

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/megachurch-pastor-axed-cell-pics-makeout-session-teen-article-1.1127319#ixzz2FyokCPqW

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News Item12/24/12 9:23 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Read The Historic U.S. American King James Holy Bible--And Really Believe It & "Practice" It; Then Preach It & Teach It--

And Stop Being A Preyed-Upon Doof To The Sodomite Authors Of Sodomite Inspired Articles In Sodomite &-Or Pro-Sodomite "News"-Magazines Like "chicagomag(fag).com" !

And For God's Sake & His & Christ's Kingdom's Sake:

GO SOUL-WINNING !

"eagle": My Brother In Christ, Jack Schaap, Is Just Being ATTACKED By Those Who HATE The LORD JESUS CHRIST & HIS PRESERVED HOLY WORD !

You Either Stand With ALL The True Saints Of God (Who Are Only Sinners Saved By Grace--Which Includes Brother Jack Schaap)--Or You Stand By & With THE SODOMITE AUTHORS OF ARTICLES THAT SMEAR A SAINT OF GOD IN HEAVEN (JACK HYLES); AND, CONTINUALLY SMEAR & SLAM A REPENTANT SAVED-SINNER LIKE JACK SCHAAP !

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News Item12/24/12 9:19 AM
Eagle  Find all comments by Eagle
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Jack Schaap HAS been convicted in a court of law. His actions are unexcusable and he should not be being defended by people who love the Lord Christ and His church and His Word.
Schaap is not being defended by those who love the Lord.
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News Item12/24/12 9:13 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Observer wrote:
"unprofitable servant", Convited Of WHAT In A Court Of Law ?
Lewdness ?
Fornication ?
Adultery ?
Nay, Brother Jack Schaap Should Not Be ATTACKED & FALSELY ACCUSED (ESPECIALLY BY PROFESSING
'unprofitable-servant' "CHRISTIANS") OF BEING CONVICTED OF A SEXUAL-CRIME HE NEVER PLED GUILTY OF & FOR IN A U.S. COURT OF LAW !
If Anyone Is A LIAR & LYING On What Brother Schaap Has Pled Guilty To Is This "unprofitable servant" & This "Rufus":
"Judicial-'Lewd Fellows Of The Baser Sort'(Acts 17:5c)-Pharisees & Hypocrites" !
Read the article, and stop pretending a guilty BY HIS OWN ADMISSION man is innocent

"Jack Schaap, the former pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond, Ind., pleaded guilty in federal court on Wednesday in a case stemming from his sexual involvement with a teen girl, but has denied knowing that taking her across state lines for sex was illegal."
Read more at http://global.christianpost.com/news/jack-schaap-pleads-guilty-in-teen-sex-case-denies-knowing-act-was-crime-82304/#dgL6EX82JL7bKbth.99

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News Item12/24/12 9:00 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
"unprofitable servant", Convited Of WHAT In A Court Of Law ?

Lewdness ?

Fornication ?

Adultery ?

Nay, Brother Jack Schaap Should Not Be ATTACKED & FALSELY ACCUSED (ESPECIALLY BY PROFESSING
'unprofitable-servant' "CHRISTIANS") OF BEING CONVICTED OF A SEXUAL-CRIME HE NEVER PLED GUILTY OF & FOR IN A U.S. COURT OF LAW !

If Anyone Is A LIAR & LYING On What Brother Schaap Has Pled Guilty To Is This "unprofitable servant" & This "Rufus":

"Judicial-'Lewd Fellows Of The Baser Sort'(Acts 17:5c)-Pharisees & Hypocrites" !

The Illuminati-Mouthpiece "global(ist).christianpost.com" Is Just Another Bought & Paid For "Whore" Of Anti-Christ & His Minions Who Are Out To Destroy True Historic U.S. King James Holy Bible Loving & Obeying Christian Fundamentalists !

"Questioner: Why (Is Jack Hyles The Most Feared Man In The [Occult-Illuminati] World) ?

John Todd: By Several Doctrines He Preaches; On Armed Christians For One...Separation Of The Christian From The World--That Really Scares The Illuminati."

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News Item12/24/12 8:56 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jack Schaap HAS been convicted in a court of law. His actions are unexcusable and he should not be being defended by people who love the Lord Christ and His church and His Word. We should grieve that such a sin has brought disgrace to the cause of Christ and take heed to ourselves lest we fall.

http://global.christianpost.com/news/jack-schaap-pleads-guilty-in-teen-sex-case-denies-knowing-act-was-crime-82304/

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