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TUESDAY, DEC 11, 2012  |  16 comments  |  1 commentary
NC Doctors Sue to End Mandatory Ultrasounds Before Abortions

Physicians in North Carolina are challenging an abortion law in court that makes it a requirement for women to receive an ultrasound before terminating their pregnancy.

"There's no medical basis to [the ultrasound requirement] whatsoever," said Dr. Serina Floyd, an obstetrician and gynecologist at Duke Medicine and a plaintiff in this case, The Duke Chronicle reported. "It's entirely ethical, moral and political and not in any way medically based."

The Woman's Right to Know Act law, which went into effect in Oct, 2011 and carries the ultrasound requirement, is intended to have mothers hear and see their unborn children before making a decision on whether or not to have an abortion. Groups such as Planned Parenthood, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Reproductive Rights, who are backing the N.C. injunction against the law, are saying that the clause should be removed. ...


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News Item12/13/12 5:51 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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Go see the PBS program.
You should have more self-respect than to clutter up your mind with government TV.
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News Item12/13/12 5:24 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Christopher000 wrote:
Wow, US...that was quite the list you took the time to put together.
Thanks Christopher000 but I must confess I ran out of characters to give the website credit and had to wait for a response. I should have used the web app on my phone I guess. - now that you let the cat out of the bag

http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/2012/01/things-you-are-required-to-have-an-id-for/

Jim, did you read the two articles that showed the voter fraud?? PBS is just a liberal outpost spewing out liberal thinking with rare exceptions. However, when I have opportunity I will, God willing, watch the link.

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News Item12/13/12 3:51 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Wow, US...that was quite the list you took the time to put together.
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News Item12/13/12 3:09 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Valid photo identification is required for the things that follow:
adopt a pet
purchase a home
purchase an automobile
purchase a gun...
et al...
Simon Stylite had it all figured a long time ago.

Maybe a tree house community could be started.

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News Item12/13/12 3:08 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
They probably would've wanted to keep white trash Republicans out who threw peanuts at a Black journalist, etc. To the GOP credit I think those attendees to their convention was kicked out?

Way too many places demand an I.D., sounds like "1984." Considering except in Chicago where the motto is vote early, vote often--even if your dead. There's no call for IDs anyway in voting, the voting poll people where I vote know who I am. A signature is good enough.

Go see the PBS program.

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News Item12/13/12 2:46 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Valid photo identification is required for the things that follow:

adopt a pet
purchase a home
purchase an automobile
purchase a gun
obtain a bank account
obtain a credit card
obtain a passport
write a check
make a credit card purchase
apply for a loan to purchase anything
to prove your age
to get married
to receive a marriage license
to drive
to buy a house
to close on a house
to get medical care
to get on a plane
to get insurance on anything
to get a job
to get a post office box
to get a hunting license
to get a fishing license
to get a business license
to cash a paycheck
rent an apartment
rent a hotel room
rent a car
rent furniture
rent tools and equipment
receive welfare
receive social security
receive food stamps
buy cigarettes
buy alcohol
buy a bus ticket
buy a cell phone
buy any antihistamine
go in to a casino
go in to a bar
go to college
have your water turned on
have your electricity turned on
have your cable turned on
have your gas turned on
obtain trash pick up service
pick up a package from the post office
pick up a package from fed ex
pick up a package from ups
pick up a prescription

You had to have a photo id to get into the DNC in Charlotte, are you saying that was so they could discriminate against minorities

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News Item12/13/12 2:32 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
This one has nothing to do with Mr. Moyers, Video: Big Sky, Big Money | Watch FRONTLINE Online | PBS Video. In many ways its Repubs battling Repubs. Now I don't think there's a transcript for it, which is too bad, but it's a good program.

Quite a few people don't have driver's licenses. I can think a holder of a Ph.D. who probably doesn't have one. Sometimes getting photo IDs is not easy for people who don't have the transportation, who are elderly etc. I think you'll find the states where White Supremacists are still influence, President Obama wouldn't have won photo IDs or not. Voter ID Rules Fail Court Tests Across Country really explains the arguments about it, and after looking at this article, one should look at Full Show: United States of ALEC. An excerpt from that page, '"Using interviews, documents, and field reporting, the episode explores ALEC’s self-serving machine at work, acting in a way one Wisconsin politician describes as “a corporate dating service for lonely legislators and corporate special interests.”'

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News Item12/13/12 12:39 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
As for Mr. Moyer
http://cnsnews.com/blog/mike-ciandella/bill-moyers-asks-money-do-battle-conservatives

As for vote fraud
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/

http://www.examiner.com/article/fraud-some-told-they-already-voted-others-brag-about-voting-multiple-times

The president did not win in any state that required a photo id. In Georgia, (one of the states that requires photo id)you can easily vote without an id it is called absentee ballot. So, no ones vote is being suppressed and if you need an id and cannot afford they will give you one at no charge. They even sent of RV's into neighborhoods to give people state issued id's.

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News Item12/13/12 9:53 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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Anyway, voter ID is just a cover for a modern day poll tax to keep people who legally should be able to vote are stopped by monied interests. Voter fraud isn't all that great. In states where it might be a problem let them handle it, but not as means to stop the elderly or poor from voting.
Rubbish. Again. Why would a citizen not easily be able to produce ID?
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News Item12/12/12 5:27 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Voter ID, John? I am going to point out the program, Full Show: United States of ALEC am I giving Mr. Moyers my seal of approval? This show is highly accurate -- but it suffers from the sin of omission, since I'm sure that various groups like teacher unions have the same system. A little more neutral program where we Republicans pitted against Republicans, Video: Big Sky, Big Money | Watch FRONTLINE Online | PBS Video.
Anyway, voter ID is just a cover for a modern day poll tax to keep people who legally should be able to vote are stopped by monied interests. Voter fraud isn't all that great. In states where it might be a problem let them handle it, but not as means to stop the elderly or poor from voting.
So? Just bring your ID/drivers license to the polls. What's so hard about that? It wouldn't stop me, unless I managed to lose my license on the way to the polls, but hey, that's MY problem.
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News Item12/12/12 2:59 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Voter ID, John? I am going to point out the program, Full Show: United States of ALEC am I giving Mr. Moyers my seal of approval? This show is highly accurate -- but it suffers from the sin of omission, since I'm sure that various groups like teacher unions have the same system. A little more neutral program where we Republicans pitted against Republicans, Video: Big Sky, Big Money | Watch FRONTLINE Online | PBS Video.

Anyway, voter ID is just a cover for a modern day poll tax to keep people who legally should be able to vote are stopped by monied interests. Voter fraud isn't all that great. In states where it might be a problem let them handle it, but not as means to stop the elderly or poor from voting.

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News Item12/12/12 12:58 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Christopher000 wrote:
I never even knew that ultrasounds were mandatory prior to abortions. So, the mother sees her little baby, maybe with a thumb in his/her mouth, etc, and says, "nah, kill it". I'm not a woman, but to brutally murder a helpless little baby? What kind of a degenerate person is capable of something like that? A baby feels no pain at that stage...I just don't believe it. I think that is a lot of bull being spewed in order to soften the mental blow on the already enraged activists, haters. When a baby is being murdered, he/she just happens to go wild with convulsions at the very same moment?
Woe be unto the truth if it ever dares to get between an evil man and what he wants. Whether that truth consists of ultrasound imaging, voter ID, or whatever.
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News Item12/11/12 8:18 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Legal/illegal
ultrasound/no ultrasound
difficult decision/ easy decision
Poor/rich
doctors for/doctors against

And someone can plug in anything to add to the above, except the "death" of the mother, and in God's eyes it is still murder to undergo an abortion or to perform an abortion and it is accessory to murder to support the movement in any other way.

Mankind seems to think they can pervert God's justice, but in the end they will stand before the Lord and won't be able to plead their case.

I do pray for all those folks who have participated in this horrible procedure and pray they will repent and come to the Lord for forgiveness before they meet Him in judgment.

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News Item12/11/12 6:50 PM
Unporfitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unporfitable Servant
Doctors against a patient making an informed decision. What will they think of next?
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News Item12/11/12 3:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I hope they keep the ultra-sound requirement in NC. What would be better requirement is to make the man give a divorce settlement to the woman no matter what she does (perhaps even adding child support even if there is no child) and if he is even married to someone else -- legally. This would stop irresponsible sex. Perhaps a Federal law to this effect would be great--applying it to ex-Presidents as well?
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News Item12/11/12 7:13 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I never even knew that ultrasounds were mandatory prior to abortions. So, the mother sees her little baby, maybe with a thumb in his/her mouth, etc, and says, "nah, kill it". I'm not a woman, but to brutally murder a helpless little baby? What kind of a degenerate person is capable of something like that? A baby feels no pain at that stage...I just don't believe it. I think that is a lot of bull being spewed in order to soften the mental blow on the already enraged activists, haters. When a baby is being murdered, he/she just happens to go wild with convulsions at the very same moment?
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