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FRONT PAGE  |  7/7/2015
SATURDAY, DEC 1, 2012  |  16 comments
Dehyrating Disable Babies in UK Hospitals

The Liverpool Care Pathway has become a checklist for killing. This is what happens when a country allows bureaucrats to control healthcare. (Yes, I am issuing an unsubtle warning about Obamacare.)

The Pathway was designed by health bureaucrats to fix a real problem: Too many patients were being allowed to die in pain in UK hospitals. In centralized systems, the answer to a problem is always more technocracy. So, the Liverpool Care Pathway was put into place to ensure that dying patients receive adequate pain control, including in the rare instances that it is necessary, sedation.

But rather than being patient-centered, it became a bureaucratic nightmare: Patient elderly or dying: Check. Pathway instituted whether the patient requires it or not: Check. It got so bad that some who weren’t dying have been sedated and dehydrated to death. ...


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News Item12/3/12 11:45 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Doris wrote:
1. It was said tongue in cheek John, hence the after the post.
2. I know from following the postings that you and Mike get on well despite your differences.
3. Just struck me that that was a nuance of his post you did not address.
1. Ah...
2. Correct.
3. Ah well, just to keep you happy, remind me of this post and I will address it.
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News Item12/3/12 11:20 AM
Doris | Day  Find all comments by Doris
John UK wrote:
Quite likely DD.
And why not? Mike and I have serious disagreements, yet we have respect for one another, as brothers in Christ, and will stand together in heaven, even though the godly Calvinist George Whitefield, when asked if he expected to see John Wesley also in heaven, replied, "No I do not expect to see John Wesley in heaven, as I rather think he will be so much nearer the throne of God than I."
Now if you could just imbibe a little of that humility, you could do well.
It was said tongue in cheek John, hence the after the post.

I know from following the postings that you and Mike get on well despite your differences.

Just struck me that that was a nuance of his post you did not address.

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News Item12/3/12 10:42 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
wow, the west is just like killing its babies off now. wow.

I do believe this is what ocare is about.

it will be our own systems, darwins void of moral and physical substance as a philosophy that lays the carpet out for Muhmds.

I've watched children fall after their routine visits to autism, how painful that is to watch. Watched loved ones fall to the uptick of morpine in the hospitals, watched fellow believers espouse the virtues of the abortifacient pill, filling the heavens with offsrping they know not of yet, and now, coming to america will be the death panels of my elderly friends and weaker newborn.

look not to FOF or our CFR "leaders" to cover the realities of darwins west, we will just have to look around ourselves and see what has happened.

May the Lord strengthen His church.

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News Item12/2/12 7:16 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Doris wrote:
I think Mike may have been thinking when does "all" not mean "all". When does "everyone" not mean "everyone" etc.
IOW his criticism applies equally to your position!
You need not speak for me Doris. John and I do disagree on some things, not everything. John is a dear brother, and I value even his disagreements. Helps me to think. And one thing he does better than I do is keep his calm. I tend to be sarcastic, and have to frequently keep it chained, with the Lord's patient help.
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News Item12/2/12 6:14 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Doris wrote:
I think Mike may have been thinking when does "all" not mean "all". When does "everyone" not mean "everyone" etc.
IOW his criticism applies equally to your position!
Quite likely DD.

And why not? Mike and I have serious disagreements, yet we have respect for one another, as brothers in Christ, and will stand together in heaven, even though the godly Calvinist George Whitefield, when asked if he expected to see John Wesley also in heaven, replied, "No I do not expect to see John Wesley in heaven, as I rather think he will be so much nearer the throne of God than I."

Now if you could just imbibe a little of that humility, you could do well.

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News Item12/2/12 5:44 PM
Doris | Day  Find all comments by Doris
John UK wrote:
Quite right Mike.
It's like when ..
I think Mike may have been thinking when does "all" not mean "all". When does "everyone" not mean "everyone" etc.
IOW his criticism applies equally to your position!
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News Item12/2/12 11:20 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
trickle wrote:
Being a covert anti calvin hyper wesleyan your expertise is not in doubt here is it John.
You forgot the question mark?

Now then, Mr Cauvin was neither a Calvinist nor a HyperCalvinist.

Perhaps you'd like to explain why it is that you think I am anti-Calvin and pro-HyperWesleyan?

No?

Thought not!

Whatever happened to that other question we posed you? Forgotten already?

Thought so!

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News Item12/2/12 11:13 AM
trickle  Find all comments by trickle
John UK wrote:
I guess we can comprehend why hypermen have to wrest scripture to keep their theologicals shining brightly.
Being a covert anti calvin hyper wesleyan your expertise is not in doubt here is it John.

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This Article quote:-
"One doctor has admitted starving and dehydrating ten babies to death in the neonatal unit of one hospital alone."

In a society such as the UK we can see the church witness and any influence thereof is dying out. Therefore the opposite 'moral' position will grow, as the Proverbs states "When the wicked are multiplied, transgression increaseth" (29:16). Thus less Christians - more of the "carnal mind enmity against God" influence on this modern society.

Thus do we see the murder of infants inside and outside the womb is commonplace and acceptable in this evil satanic country.

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News Item12/2/12 10:37 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
John, do you ever puzzle when you at once hear of the accuracy of the translation, by some who hold to this who also are quite willing to change word definitions to accommodate their theology? I have to wonder what good is accurate translation if the very words translated are so..indefinite. Corruption of Scripture doesn't have to start with translation.
Quite right Mike.

It's like when the Jews had the original language mss, and knew that their Messiah should be born in Bethlehem, but they were convinced Jesus was born in Nazareth and therefore could not be the prophesied one. Something as important as that should have been researched more.

Saul of Tarsus was steeped in the OT scriptures, but misinterpreted most of them until the Lord called him and gave him the revelation needed to understand.

Nicodemus was a teacher in Israel, yet didn't even understand the basics.

I guess we can comprehend why hypermen have to wrest scripture to keep their theologicals shining brightly.

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News Item12/2/12 10:19 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
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The simple truth is that if the KJV is an accurate translation of preserved true copies of the original manuscripts (known as "autographs"), then any Bible which deviates from it must be a corrupted version.
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John, do you ever puzzle when you at once hear of the accuracy of the translation, by some who hold to this who also are quite willing to change word definitions to accommodate their theology? I have to wonder what good is accurate translation if the very words translated are so..indefinite. Corruption of Scripture doesn't have to start with translation.
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News Item12/2/12 9:10 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
Ha-ha...when I first came on board, I didn't know what to make of some of the comments either. Is there even another Bible other than the King James?...ha-ha.
Good morning Christopher

The simple truth is that if the KJV is an accurate translation of preserved true copies of the original manuscripts (known as "autographs"), then any Bible which deviates from it must be a corrupted version.

There have been numerous modern versions of the KJV, the best known being the 1769, which updated some of the language, text type etc. This is the version we use today. The others, including the Modern KJV, the New KJV, the 21st Century KJV etc. have all tampered with the text to some degree, and the NKJV study Bible includes footnotes which mislead the reader into thinking the older greek manuscripts (not used in the KJV translation) are more accurate. The truth is that these older manuscripts are themselves corrupted copies, and hence the English translation will be corrupted also. It is from these corrupted greek texts that the modern versions like NIV, TLB, CEV, NEB, GNB, ASB, RV, RSV, NASB, SB, TNIV etc are translated or paraphrased.

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News Item12/2/12 8:23 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Ha-ha...when I first came on board, I didn't know what to make of some of the comments either. Is there even another Bible other than the King James?...ha-ha.
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News Item12/1/12 6:19 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
ronie wrote:
KJV Bible is not corrupt, the man are corrupt & sinful.
Of course you are right. I use the KJV myself. My comment was meant to be a little ~in house~ humor for the benefit of one Jim Lincoln. I should have made that known.
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News Item12/1/12 4:40 PM
ronie | uae  Find all comments by ronie
KJV Bible is not corrupt, the man are corrupt & sinful.
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News Item12/1/12 12:31 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Surely the corrupt KJV is ultimately responsible for this.
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News Item12/1/12 11:55 AM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
Sadly this is just another step up from abortion which has had a deadening and callousing effect on the Nation & upon the suffering of others.
england has just had noteable floods...to bad it hadn`t been swept away!
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