Election night did not go the way most evangelicals wanted. President Obama's reelection, losses by social conservative candidates in red states, and outcomes of four same-sex marriage ballot initiatives are all causing some evangelical leaders to reexamine what it means to be an "evangelical" in American politics.
Southern Baptist Theological Seminary president Al Mohler called the election a "catastrophe" and a "disaster" for evangelicals. Mohler told The New York Times that the "disaster" was more than the outcomeâ€”it was how social conservatives lost.
"It's not that our messageâ€”we think abortion is wrong, we think same-sex marriage is wrongâ€”didn't get out. It did get out," Mohlersaid. "It's that the entire moral landscape has changed. An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them."...
1 Corinthians 14:9 So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. 1 Corintians 14:11 If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me. ---NASB
The same verses by the way, the translators of the AV used to justify their putting the Bible into more modern--at the time--English
A fundamentalist church would be KJV-only. NASB need not apply.
You and IHCC are evangelical.
Jim Lincoln wrote: If memory serves, and mine gets more unruly with age, Gil Rugh wanted to get rid of the word "Evangelical," because it lost any serious meaning and to describe such churches as Indian Hills Community Church as "Fundamentalist" and drop the word, "Evangelical." I believe this sermon may express that viewpoint, Christ is the Only Sure Foundation and... from the summary for,Godly People Recognize God's Word Also some people left comments appreciating this sermon.
If memory serves, and mine gets more unruly with age, Gil Rugh wanted to get rid of the word "Evangelical," because it lost any serious meaning and to describe such churches as Indian Hills Community Church as "Fundamentalist" and drop the word, "Evangelical." I believe this sermon may express that viewpoint, Christ is the Only Sure Foundation and...
Gil Rugh said or, wrote: God never tells the churches to set aside their differences and all get along. He never tells us to sort through the Scriptures and determine what are the 'majors' and what are the 'minors.' He never intends His Word to be edited nor adapted to the surrounding culture. He never makes allowances for each church, nor each individual, to have their own differing interpretations.
Christian stand up wrote: Have you ever wondered why we Christians do what we do for church every Sunday morning? Why do we "dress up" for church? Why does the pastor preach a sermon each week? Why do we have pews, steeples, and choirs?
The shape architecture and historic culture of the bricks and mortar are irrelevant.
1Cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
"Pagan Christianity?: Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices" by authors George Barna and Frank Viola
Have you ever wondered why we Christians do what we do for church every Sunday morning? Why do we "dress up" for church? Why does the pastor preach a sermon each week? Why do we have pews, steeples, and choirs? This ground-breaking book makes an unsettling proposal: most of what Christians do in present-day churches is rooted, not in the New Testament, but in pagan culture and rituals developed long after the death of the apostles. Coauthors Frank Viola and George Barna support their thesis with compelling historical evidence and extensive footnotes that document the origins of modern Christian church practices. In the process, the authors uncover the problems that emerge when the church functions more like a business organization than the living organism it was created to be. As you reconsider Christ's revolutionary plan for his church--to be the head of a fully functioning body in which all believers play an active role--you'll be challenged to decide whether you can ever do church the same way again.
Reading through the commitments that BB posted up, I guess I am an Evangelical Baptist? I thought all Protestants were considered to be Evangelicals. I think it's about time I take a trip over to Wikipedia so I can sort through all of these labels. I still think all born again believers should be united under one roof and not be seperated over non fatal differences.
The source to learn about the history and four pillars of the 'evangelical' brand is found here:
Evangelicalism is a Protestant Christian movement that began in the 17th century and became an organized movement with the emergence around 1730 of the Methodists in England and the Pietists among Lutherans in Germany and Scandinavia.
Evangelicalism de-emphasizes ritual and emphasizes the piety of the individual, requiring him or her to meet certain active commitments, including:
+ The need for personal conversion, or being "born again" + A high regard for biblical authority + An emphasis on teachings that proclaim the saving death and resurrection of the Son of God, Jesus Christ + Actively expressing and sharing the gospel
Today, evangelicals are often concerned with their own failure to live up to Christian standards in contrast to the world. Christianity Today author Mark Galli says "It's now pretty much agreed that the evangelical church mirrors the dysfunctions of secular society, from premarital sex stats to divorce rates to buying habits. Much to our dismay, we are hardly a light to the world, nor an icon of the abundant, transformed life."