Bishop orders priests to read anti-Obama letter at Sunday sermons
Joining the chorus of Roman Catholic clergy in Illinois criticizing President Barack Obama before next week's election, Peoria Bishop Daniel Jenky ordered priests to read a letter to parishioners on Sunday before the presidential election, explaining that politicians who support abortion rights also reject Jesus.
"By virtue of your vow of obedience to me as your Bishop, I require that this letter be personally read by each celebrating priest at each Weekend Mass," Jenky wrote in a letter circulated to clergy in the Catholic Diocese of Peoria.
In the letter, Jenky cautions parishioners that Obama and a majority of U.S. senators will not reconsider the mandate that would require employers, including religious groups, to provide free birth control coverage in their health care plans. "This assault upon our religious freedom is simply without precedent in the American political and legal system,"...
Jim Lincoln wrote: John Y., Muhammadans are just as anti-abortion as the Romish Church.
You're still spouting that nonsense that Muslims are Pro Life? Where do you come up with that nonsense? The Koran commands Muslims to kill the infidels who according to the Koran are the Jews, Christians and every other Non Muslim. There are no Pro Life Muslims period. Any idiot who knows the teachings of the Koran knows that.
John Y., Muhammadans are just as anti-abortion as the Romish Church, of course like those Christians who much more Republican than Christian they also suffer from, The Inadequacy of Moralism After someone is born they don't care what happens to "it."
Why Mike of N.Y., I made a moral decision, which God will no doubt take notice of, but take notice of the sermon that Gil just recently preached, The Inadequacy of Moralism, the summary which could be, "The love (in the moralist of virtue, but in the Christian) of God himself."--Hammond
There was also a lot of local issues and candidates to vote on, so a protest vote about candidates on the national scene was not work at all!
Jim Lincoln wrote: 1)It matters little or nothing how a Christian votes or votes at all, because it is all in God's hands in the end.
2)But stopping fallen man from carrying out wrong acts is of no use to him, and is not the primary mission of a Christian ... ---
Your honey wagon is overflowing, Jim.
Perhaps if you truly believe point 1, you might as well stay home? Yet I'm sure you somewhere reminded us several dozen times to render unto Caesar, which according to what you promote, this election is about. You wouldn't deliberately avoid rendering unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's as commanded by Christ, would you?
If you truly believe point 2, no evil should ever be resisted, for it is of no use to him doing the reaisting, especially if he's a Christian. (I know, I know, we can't resist the power, so the exception is it's ok to resist evil if a king tells you to)
Jim Lincoln wrote: Why John Y., there are plenty of Muhammadans who are pro-life. It certainly makes the warning that Dalby gave in the 19th century, The Perils of Popery really stand out today. So a servant of Satan supports pro-life? James 2 19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.---NASB Is A Catholic Christian An Oxymoron? and Is the One True Church Roman Catholic?. If there was one true church of Satan the Romish Church is it
Oh sure Muslims that are Pro Life? What a joke that is. The Koran states that Muslims should kill the infidels who are according to the Koran are Jews and Christians. And then you have the temerity to state that Muslims are Pro Life? That really is sick stating that Muslims are Pro Life.
Jim Lincoln wrote: It matters little or nothing how a Christian votes or votes at all, because it is all in God's hands in the end. .
True true, the ultimate weapon in changing the way men think and act is the gospel of Christ. But to say it matters not whether we vote because it is all in God's hands. By the saem logic it matters not if we pray, because it is all in God's hand. It matters not if we witness, because it is all in God's hand. Ezekiel 36:36b, 37 I, the Lord, have spoken it, and I will do it.â€
37 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “I will also let the house of Israel inquire of Me to do this for them: I will increase their men like a flock.
Notice after saying that He would do it, the Lord still instructs the children of Israel to pray for it to be done. If I misunderstood your comment, I apologize.
John UK wrote: Catholics who come out with arguments like that will gain little interest here, as this is not a Lutheran website. You would be far better off coming out with biblical statements than the statements of mere men. And you'll never make heaven by your works, no matter how hard you try. Salvation is by faith in what another - even Christ - has done for you. Adding to that work of his, will discount your faith, and make your attempt a "salvation by works", which salvation does not exist. A "true believer" believes, goes on believing, and dies believing. It is then that he enters heaven for all eternity, giving all praise to Jesus Christ. The true believer is credited with a perfect righteousness, even the righteousness of Christ, and he is therefore counted as perfectly righteous in God's estimation. You cannot improve on this, it is perfection. And it comes as a free gift, or not at all.
What a great comment! And it was a blessing to me to even read it.
Jim, good points. I agree that is all in God's hand at the end. The bible supports that view. God, himself, raised up many wicked men to lead his people (the kings)and many others to serve as his instrument to punish them for their wicked doings. Both Obama and Romney praise God with their lips. Romney is no different from Obama when it comes to abortion. Where is the candidate who will speak the full truth about abortion (Romney and many other so-called evangelicals are okay with it in the case of rape or incest). Hello! A life is a life no matter how horrible the circumstances that it came to be!
God is in full control of the election and its results. Good thing that both of our choices (professing believer Obama and apostate Mormon Romney) are equally opposed to the word of God. Serves as a stark reminder that this earth and political system are not our hope.
It matters little or nothing how a Christian votes or votes at all, because it is all in God's hands in the end. But stopping fallen man from carrying out wrong acts is of no use to him, and is not the primary mission of a Christian that mission is, to point out, The Roman Road Romans 3:10 As it is written, "There is none righteous, not even one." Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. Romans 10:13 For "Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved."---NASB
Thanks. I'm a bit embarassed about that particular post because I was in a semi rage at the time. Someone was inferring that I was faking being a new Christian for some reason. Yes, I was a long time dealer, a heavy weight on a few underground drug boards over the years and have battled many addictions. To see me, one would never guess that I sold, it even did any kinds of drugs. I'm still on Suboxone but plan to be done with that within the next couple of months.
Anyway, all of that is behind me for good. That part of my life is done, I'm happy to say.
Christ, councilling, Suboxone, and a whole lot of willpower did the trick!
I was reading some of your posts and see you were a drug dealer (forgive me if I misread), wondered if you had listened to these sermons? Rev Martin's is a blessing!
Unfailing soul wrote: According to Luther, a true believer could vote for 1,000 pro-abortion candidates in a day and never lose his soul.
Catholics who come out with arguments like that will gain little interest here, as this is not a Lutheran website. You would be far better off coming out with biblical statements than the statements of mere men.
And you'll never make heaven by your works, no matter how hard you try.
Salvation is by faith in what another - even Christ - has done for you. Adding to that work of his, will discount your faith, and make your attempt a "salvation by works", which salvation does not exist.
A "true believer" believes, goes on believing, and dies believing. It is then that he enters heaven for all eternity, giving all praise to Jesus Christ.
The true believer is credited with a perfect righteousness, even the righteousness of Christ, and he is therefore counted as perfectly righteous in God's estimation. You cannot improve on this, it is perfection. And it comes as a free gift, or not at all.
Christopher000 wrote: can someone who is born again, really lose their salvation?
NO! Read John 5: 24. Not IF 'really' born-again. The following links might be helpful.
“The ‘believer’ who loses his faith never really had it—or at least it wasn’t in Jesus.†http://gregscouch.homestead.com/files/eternalsecurity.htm
how on earth could Rom be considered prolife? Ryn maybe but Rom?
he appointed leftist judges in mass
romcare included paying abortionists overtly to perform any and all types of abortions.
he sent advisors to help Ob's advisors write obcare
truth of Rom kept from rep voters.
1994, Bay Windows: New England's Largest Gay and Lesbian Newspaper, headline, "Romney: I'll be better than Ted for gay rights" --- "There's something to be said for having a Republican who supports civil rights in this broader context, including sexual orientation."
2002 Planned Parenthood Survey, "Do you support the substance of the Supreme Court decision in Roe v Wade?" -- yes
Rom's press spokesman regarding presd'l campaign having to go more conservate, "Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch-A-Sketch."
Aside from this particular topic, can someone who is born again, loves Christ, and tries to live their life according to the Bible really lose their salvation? Can they really make some terrible mistake along the way and get rejected? I know that David murdered a woman's husband but I think was forgiven. The other area of concern is grieving the Holy Spirit, which us doing what? Other than that, if I can lose my salvation, being far from perfect each day, how would a person know that it's been retracted? Now I feel like I'm walking on egg shells and if this is the case, how can anyone really be certain of where they will end up?
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Dr. Alan Cairns | 8/3/2009
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who much more Republican than Christian they also suffer from, 
After someone is born they don't care what happens to "it." 
jpw: "hopeless -- i'm not into the binding and loosing stuff. look, your salvation..."
