Pope Benedict XVI on Sunday called on bishops from around the world to revive the Christian faith among those who have forgotten or abandoned it.
The Church needs a new “missionary dynamic” of lay people and must pay “particular attention (to) baptized people who do not live according to the requirements of the baptism,” he said as 262 bishops wound up a three-week huddle that broached all major issues and crises shaking the 2,000-year-old institution.
Clerics must also apply “new methods, a new language that suits different cultures” in their bid for a “new evangelism,” he said during a closing mass at Saint Peter’s....
James 2 15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and be filled," and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? 17 Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself. 18 But someone may well say, "You have faith, and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works."---NASB
Your faith can only be surmised as dead, John Y., because we don't see the work to Come out of the Catholic Church and completely avoid the Mass,
Drs. Ankerberg&Weldon wrote: Although the Catholic Church claims that the Mass in no way detracts from the atonement of Christ, it nevertheless believes that it is principally through the Mass that the blessings of Christ’s death are applied to believers....Catholic teaching that in the Mass Christ is actually, in a real sense, re-sacrificed...
Observer wrote: Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Observe Reminds me of the staggering difference between 'an empty lip service, false conversion experience' misleading many to imagine they have Salvation, because they may have at some time in their past repeated a (quote) sinner's prayer.
in great contrast with:
Those working out their salvation (NOT working for ) working out their salvation in fear and trembling because God Himself is at work IN THEM both to will and to do according to His good pleasure and purpose, because they are indeed born again of the Spirit of God and it shows in that they hear the voice of the Lord Jesus Christ and in love for Him, with great joy, willingly follow Him who died and rose again on their behalf.
and adding this after reading JY's post
We anyone professing to know Jesus Chirst as Lord and Savior the One who died on the Cross, giving His life a sacrifice to save sinners from their sins AND Continually Rebel at actually obeying Him in every part of life, including which church to fellowship with or sever company with is Simply NOT Understandable.
John UK wrote: John, you should stay in the RCC until the Lord calls you to come out. And if you never hear the Lord calling you to come out, you need to be born again so that you can hear his voice.
When everybody stands before Jesus after they pass away Jesus will not look at church membership in determining who will gain entrance into Heaven. Jesus will only look at who had embraced Him as their Lord and Savior. So the church that one who is Born Again attends is superfluous just as long as the church worships Jesus as God. And the Catholic Church has always worshipped Jesus as God.
John UK wrote: John, you should stay in the RCC until the Lord calls you to come out. And if you never hear the Lord calling you to come out, you need to be born again so that you can hear his voice.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
John Yurich USA wrote: Romans 10:9 states only one requirement for salvation. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that Baptism, church membership or fellowshipping is required for salvation.
John, you should stay in the RCC until the Lord calls you to come out. And if you never hear the Lord calling you to come out, you need to be born again so that you can hear his voice.
Of the few web pages that Jim Lincoln continually re-posts and cross-posts [Are We Really Catholic Bashing? -- No. (PDF)], 90% of which are from a man who can't align the Bible genealogies to conclude that we live on a young planet. Instead, Dr. John Ankerberg holds an antagonism towards the young-earth creation view and astonishingly counts the Earth as billions of years old. How could he even believe in a literal Genesis 2 Adam and Eve?
If you can't get the age of the Earth right which distorts Adam, Eve and their original sin how can you hope to understand anything?
John Y., you aren't doing the important action to Come out of the Catholic Church. When are you going to stop aiding and abetting The Church of Rome Steps Into Apostasy (PDF)? Of course I would argue it jumped in with both feet into apostasy when it started, but the commentary is a good one, anyway. So, that is the question right now, not when you are actually going to join a Christian Church -- which you should do. You haven't even made the first step in doing what a Christian should do.
John Yurich USA wrote: Romans 10:9 states only one requirement for salvation. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that Baptism, church membership or fellowshipping is required for salvation.
JY I am posting in response to your comment, NOT that I have any confidence that your, let's use the word prejudice, would allow you to dare listen
BUT for the benefit of those who do love the Lord Jesus Christ and are grieved at any false teaching and misrepresentation of what genuine Salvation is all about.
So listen, there is one preeminent requirement for Salvation.
A sacrifice so completely entirely Holy that it takes all the wrath of God against sin and satisfies divine justice and so changes those who entrust themselves to the sufficiency of this power sacrifice given in the immeasurable love of God that it changes utterly the very hearts of those who believe, to no longer live for themselves but for the Lord Jesus Christ who died and rose again on their behave.
No wonder Scripture tells us, 'if anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ let him be accursed.'
Oh Thank God, for His mercy and mighty grace, otherwise we could be "easy believism" empty lip service in name only "Christians" on our way to hell.
John Yurich USA wrote: Romans 10:9 states only one requirement for salvation. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that Baptism, church membership or fellowshipping is required for salvation.
No it doesn't say what you want it to say.
BUT I am NOT going to engage with your Oink Oink any more. I am running our of pearls and besides the Bible says we are not to cast our pearls before swine!
You are a deluded fool and if you want to die in your sins, that's your look out.
You can tell me on judgement day that I was right and you were wrong. BUT it'll be too late for ya then.
Observer wrote: Yada yada yada, baloney baloney baloney, blah blah blah.... This disciple of quick prayerism sure is spiritually blind!
Romans 10:9 states only one requirement for salvation. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that Baptism, church membership or fellowshipping is required for salvation.
John Yurich USA wrote: I am stating that the Pope and no other Catholic becomes Born Again unless they embrace Jesus as their Personal Lord and Savior. And if one is not Born Again then they don't have the ability to know that there are some unscriptural doctrines in the Catholic Church. Before I embraced Jesus as my Lord and Savior I did not know that there are some unscriptural doctrines in the Catholic Church. But immediately after I embraced Jesus as my Lord and Savior then I became aware that there are some unscriptural doctrines in the Catholic Church because I started being guided by the Holy Spirit to know that. That is the proof that I am Born Again and guided by the Holy Spirit. If I was not guided by the Holy Spirit I would not know that there are unscriptural doctrines in the Catholic Church.
CV wrote: Are you saying that the pope and all the bishops are NOT born again cause they don't know about the unscritural parts? Or are you are saying that the pope IS born again cause he knows that there are unscriptural parts to RCC. Either way, "logic" dictates that RCC cannot be followed. "Logic" also dictates that if "baptism" is merely a "dedication" and NOT the new and improved circumcision, then you are denying the paedos their Abrahams blessings.
I am stating that the Pope and no other Catholic becomes Born Again unless they embrace Jesus as their Personal Lord and Savior. And if one is not Born Again then they don't have the ability to know that there are some unscriptural doctrines in the Catholic Church. Before I embraced Jesus as my Lord and Savior I did not know that there are some unscriptural doctrines in the Catholic Church. But immediately after I embraced Jesus as my Lord and Savior then I became aware that there are some unscriptural doctrines in the Catholic Church because I started being guided by the Holy Spirit to know that. That is the proof that I am Born Again and guided by the Holy Spirit. If I was not guided by the Holy Spirit I would not know that there are unscriptural doctrines in the Catholic Church.
John Yurich USA wrote: Kindly answer the question. How can you possibly believe that one who is not Born Again and not guided by the Holy Spirit would have the ability to know that there are some unscriptural doctrines in the RCC?
Are you saying that the pope and all the bishops are NOT born again cause they don't know about the unscritural parts? Or are you are saying that the pope IS born again cause he knows that there are unscriptural parts to RCC.
Either way, "logic" dictates that RCC cannot be followed.
"Logic" also dictates that if "baptism" is merely a "dedication" and NOT the new and improved circumcision, then you are denying the paedos their Abrahams blessings.
"Regardless of the actual Bible that God has given his church, Biblicists want a Bible that is different. They want a Bible that answers all their questions, that tells them how to have marital intimacy, that gives principles for economics and medicine and science and cooking—and does so inerrantly. They essentially demand—in God’s name, yet actually based on a faulty modern philosophy of language and knowledge—a sacred text that will make them certain and secure, even though that is not actually the kind of text that God gave."
"If evangelicalism is going to take a step closer to the heart of God in Christ, we must deal with the division over the Bible that is ripping the church apart, and confusing a lost world. There is a better way." D.D. Flowers
Observer wrote: I was wrong to say the family likeness extends only to some modern Presbys. I should NOT have excluded RCC trolls Should I be worried by the opinion of our resident devil, the slithery slimy member of the Chimera church?
John Yurich USA wrote: If those individuals in Matthew 7 did not worship Jesus as God then they were unbelievers. Anyone who worships Jesus as God is not an unbeliever.
JY You reaally need to teach yourself how to read the Bible accurately in context of what is right there in front of your face and that of anyone else who would pay close attention to what Jesus Christ actually said AND didn't say.
So look at Matthew 7:21-27 for even in the RC Bible the CONTEXT of what Jesus says is clear. NOT that they worshipped Him as God, He is, the 2 ND Person of the Godhead, AND EVEN THOUGH they called Him, 'Lord, Lord', BUT THAT they DID what He told them, or not.
IMHO I betcha didn't hear that in your brother's non-denominational 'sinner's prayer' church, did you (or did you and you somehow ignored that part)?
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Dr. Alan Cairns | 8/3/2009
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why am I not surprised? 
But, I suppose I have to give a reasonably accurate picture of what is happening in Australia, 
) working out 
their salvation in fear and trembling because God Himself is at work IN THEM both to will and to do according to His good pleasure and purpose, because they are indeed born again of the Spirit of God and it shows in that they hear the voice of the Lord Jesus Christ and in love for Him, with great joy, willingly follow Him who died and rose again on their behalf.
We anyone professing to know Jesus Chirst as Lord and Savior the One who died on the Cross, giving His life a sacrifice to save sinners from their sins AND Continually Rebel at actually obeying Him in every part of life, including which church to fellowship with or sever company with is Simply NOT Understandable.
