‘Jane Roe’ of Roe v. Wade airs anti-Obama ad in Florida
Nearly 40 years ago, as a young,pregnant woman, Norma McCorvey played an instrumental part in the Supreme Court decision that brought legal abortion to America. Now McCorvey, the ‘Roe’ in the Roe v. Wade case, has released an ad urging voters not to vote for Obama.
McCorvey became a Christian in 1995 and has since repudiated her role in Roe v. Wade, campaigning for its reversal.
The ad is set to air in Florida, and is backed by Randall Terry, the pro-life activist who is running for office on the Democratic ticket in several states. Terry’s political campaigning is aimed primarily at exploiting a legal loophole that requires TV stations to run his political ads, which include graphic abortion imagery....
I usually stood on the opposite side of the entrance to the mill and handed out my own literature which explained the Gospel did not refer women to Catholic organizations. I was polite to the Catholics, but not a part of what they were doing.
Angela Wittman wrote: Thanks Frank... I agree. One of the sorrows of the modern pro-life movement is that it is so ecumenical, people assume Catholics and Evangelicals have the same beliefs and nothing could be farther from the truth. But if one points out the differences and takes a stand against false religion, they are labeled as trouble makers. My position while witnessing at the child-killing places was to make a clear distinction between myself and the Roman Catholics; I put the Gospel before stopping abortion.
You and I agree on this issue, although I have never picketed an abortion clinic. I remember arguing with a Pastor regarding the Manhatten Declaration which he said he would have signed; I was very against anyone signing it because it gave credence to a different gospel. The fellow then asked me what I would do if I was picketing an abortion clinic and there were Catholics there; would that not be the same as having a moral unity with them? I told him I would use that as an opportunity to witness to the Catholics and I would not stand with them as if I was one of them. That is the same thought process you have.
Thanks Frank... I agree. One of the sorrows of the modern pro-life movement is that it is so ecumenical, people assume Catholics and Evangelicals have the same beliefs and nothing could be farther from the truth. But if one points out the differences and takes a stand against false religion, they are labeled as trouble makers. My position while witnessing at the child-killing places was to make a clear distinction between myself and the Roman Catholics; I put the Gospel before stopping abortion.
crickets on most vital issues wrote: Amazing, too, when the Huffington Post articles frequently have thousands of comments each. Sometimes 10,000. Perhaps SA news could be better marketed?
Here are some important traits of the judgemental person. The first clue will be haste. The judgemental person judges HASTILY, they will be unconcerned with facts, but will seek out false witnesses to support their case. Did you know that false witnesses were stoned in the OT whether the person they accused turned out to have done what they claimed or not? Thats right. To accuse someone you need 2 witnesses.
Of course this is how Jesus died - by the hand of false witnesses.
Angela Wittman wrote: Regarding Frank's most recent comment: If you read my original comment carefully, I said Rev. Flip Benham of Operation Save America witnessed at the mill where Norma worked for several years and she eventually repented and was baptized by Rev. Benham... Flip Benham would not have baptized her unless she gave a credible confession of faith in Christ. I might not agree 100% with Flip, but I know he is faithful in proclaiming the Gospel. I think that perhaps Norma went to the Catholic Church because they are more active in the pro-life movement than us Protestants. Sorry folks, but it's the truth.
Angela, I certainly didn't mean to cast any doubt on her profession of faith or on the way Flip conducted his ministerial duties. In fact, I felt there was merit to your comment and it caused me to ponder the issue of judging. All I was trying to say is a Christian is also identified by whom they fellowship and worship with. If the issue of abortion causes us to "fellowship" with the lost, then 2 Cor. 6:14-18 becomes useless and we are lending credence to the thought that we can do the works of Christ without being in Christ. I just don't want folks to think they can please God unless they are in fact, in His Son.
Angela Wittman wrote: We need to be more careful when judging whether others are saved or not... We can't read hearts or minds. But I do believe that a Christian will seek the truth and sometimes he/she will have to leave a church in order to find it.
Yes. I agree dear. Firstly, it's impossible to judge people on the internet - you can only judge their words. Secondly, and this is easy to understand where judgement is concerned: If you were accused of a crime by someone and it ended up in court you would expect to hear from witnesses and to have actual facts presented in a careful case wouldn't you? You would be very surprised if the judge just looked at you, at a couple of words you'd said twisted by a false witness and threw you in jail wouldn't you?
Regarding Frank's most recent comment: If you read my original comment carefully, I said Rev. Flip Benham of Operation Save America witnessed at the mill where Norma worked for several years and she eventually repented and was baptized by Rev. Benham... Flip Benham would not have baptized her unless she gave a credible confession of faith in Christ. I might not agree 100% with Flip, but I know he is faithful in proclaiming the Gospel. I think that perhaps Norma went to the Catholic Church because they are more active in the pro-life movement than us Protestants. Sorry folks, but it's the truth.
Name, unlocked, locked, agreed wrote: Do you ever wonder why there are so few people commenting on this forum? Considering there are thousands and thousands or churches represented?
Amazing, too, when the Huffington Post articles frequently have thousands of comments each. Sometimes 10,000.
Frank wrote: That was very observant! The Pope doesn't believe in abortion, Mormons don't believe in abortions, etc. Perhaps we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt if they name the name of Christ? The RC church has Christ hanging on the cross because they conjure Him up and crucify Him daily. He is God's Son who does His mother's bidding in heaven so they worship and revere a dead lady. I don't think Dan or Lurker was judging this lady, but simply saying "if she is saved, why would she attend the Catholic church"? If I met her, I would not dialogue with her as a sister in Christ until she answered that question. If we are to come out from them, we first have to recognize those we are to separate from. Christ said, unless you believe I am He, you shall die in your sins. So, I would ask her to explain who she thinks Christ is and if she answers correctly, then I would ask her why she is attending an RC church (if she does). This is one of the problems with this Kingdom Now stuff that "often" accepts morals and conservatism as being synonymous with the body of Christ.
Do you ever wonder why there are so few people commenting on this forum? Considering there are thousands and thousands or churches represented?
Dan wrote: She has become a Christian? If so, why is a crucifix on the mantle behind her? That could indicate that she's Roman Catholic which is not Christian.
That was very observant! The Pope doesn't believe in abortion, Mormons don't believe in abortions, etc. Perhaps we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt if they name the name of Christ? The RC church has Christ hanging on the cross because they conjure Him up and crucify Him daily. He is God's Son who does His mother's bidding in heaven so they worship and revere a dead lady. I don't think Dan or Lurker was judging this lady, but simply saying "if she is saved, why would she attend the Catholic church"? If I met her, I would not dialogue with her as a sister in Christ until she answered that question. If we are to come out from them, we first have to recognize those we are to separate from. Christ said, unless you believe I am He, you shall die in your sins. So, I would ask her to explain who she thinks Christ is and if she answers correctly, then I would ask her why she is attending an RC church (if she does). This is one of the problems with this Kingdom Now stuff that "often" accepts morals and conservatism as being synonymous with the body of Christ.
We need to be more careful when judging whether others are saved or not... We can't read hearts or minds. But I do believe that a Christian will seek the truth and sometimes he/she will have to leave a church in order to find it.
Angela Wittman wrote: Flip Benham of Operation Save America witnessed on a regular basis at the abortion mill Norma McCorvey worked at and she eventually repented and was baptized by Rev. Benham. I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt that she has become a Christian even though she eventually joined the Catholic Church.
Right. Just because someone who is Born Again attends the Catholic Church does not automatically mean that they are not saved. There are saved individuals in any church that worships Jesus as God.
Flip Benham of Operation Save America witnessed on a regular basis at the abortion mill Norma McCorvey worked at and she eventually repented and was baptized by Rev. Benham. I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt that she has become a Christian even though she eventually joined the Catholic Church.
Okay, well then I hope that she either is a true follower of Christ, or becomes one. I didn't initially throw her into a bucket because of the background cross, crucifix, or whatever it is. I hope she's right or gets right with God.
Dan wrote: She has become a Christian? If so, why is a crucifix on the mantle behind her? That could indicate that she's Roman Catholic which is not Christian.
Good catch, Dan.
If you look closely, you'll see that the crucifix has Jesus hanging on the cross which leaves little doubt about her version of Christianity. That is consistent with her change of heart to pro-life as the RCC is adamantly opposed to abortion.
Oh, I never knew that she has become a Christian. I'm sure abortion would have eventually been legalized without her help, but boy, oh boy, what a heavy burden to bear.
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My position while witnessing at the child-killing places was to make a clear distinction between myself and the Roman Catholics; I put the Gospel before stopping abortion.
I don't think Dan or Lurker was judging this lady, but simply saying "if she is saved, why would she attend the Catholic church"? If I met her, I would not dialogue with her as a sister in Christ until she answered that question. If we are to come out from them, we first have to recognize those we are to separate from. Christ said, unless you believe I am He, you shall die in your sins. So, I would ask her to explain who she thinks Christ is and if she answers correctly, then I would ask her why she is attending an RC church (if she does). This is one of the problems with this Kingdom Now stuff that "often" accepts morals and conservatism as being synonymous with the body of Christ.
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