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SUNDAY, OCT 21, 2012  |  7 comments
Review: Forsaken: The Trinity and the Cross, and Why It Matters
God is one, unified, without parts or passions. That is the message Thomas H. McCall elaborates, defends, and applies across four chapters of his book Forsaken: The Trinity and the Cross, and Why It Matters (IVP Academic, 2012), with each of these chapters focusing on some aspect of Christ’s work on the cross. McCall quotes the church fathers and the modern liberals, but always supports the traditional view, showing its relevance to the redemption purchased by Christ.

In what sense did Christ quote Psalm 22, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” McCall teaches that though Christ did indeed bear the Father’s wrath, the Triunity of God was not broken. Christ died according to His human nature, but His divinity was not killed. Furthermore, God did not kill His Son. Humans killed Christ, and humans are the beneficiaries of His work. ...


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innominate  Find all comments by innominate
Mike wrote:
The book in question is the one under review. I would assume that this McCall, whoever he is, must have said something untrue in it, at least in Phelus' understanding of truth. Otherwise he would not be sad that McCall is, according to Phelus, Arminian. For we know Phelus considers pretty much everyone who is not Presby, to be Arminian.
Only Arminians are Arminian, Mike. (See Rom 9:21)
As you know Arminians are confused people who try to save themselves or believe that their contribution is required by God to complete salvation. Thus they believe in a lesser god. In this respect they are similar to the Roman Catholic fallacy.

To perceive the errors and unBiblical heresies of the Arminians see The Canons of Dordt

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News Item10/21/12 4:54 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
The book in question is the one under review. I would assume that this McCall, whoever he is, must have said something untrue in it, at least in Phelus' understanding of truth. Otherwise he would not be sad that McCall is, according to Phelus, Arminian. For we know Phelus considers pretty much everyone who is not Presby, to be Arminian.
And Phelus has not replied to the question yet? Sounds like a Presby to me, Mike.

But I get your point, as even I am referred to as arminist by such.

What we need is someone with the book to quote a few lines, and then we could dissect it and make mincemeat out of it.

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News Item10/21/12 4:47 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
His current projects include a book on the theology of Jacob Arminius...
I wonder if he will be for or against.
If for, then everything in the book will be untrue.
If against, then everything in the book might be true, but not necessarily.
If it is a mix, then there you have a mix and match theology, which is becoming more and more commonplace.
The book in question is the one under review. I would assume that this McCall, whoever he is, must have said something untrue in it, at least in Phelus' understanding of truth. Otherwise he would not be sad that McCall is, according to Phelus, Arminian. For we know Phelus considers pretty much everyone who is not Presby, to be Arminian.
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News Item10/21/12 10:21 AM
Phelus  Find all comments by Phelus
Mike wrote:
So what did he say in the book that was untrue?
I'm so glad you now recognise that the Arminian he speak the untruth.
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News Item10/21/12 9:29 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
So what did he say in the book that was untrue?
His current projects include a book on the theology of Jacob Arminius...

I wonder if he will be for or against.

If for, then everything in the book will be untrue.

If against, then everything in the book might be true, but not necessarily.

If it is a mix, then there you have a mix and match theology, which is becoming more and more commonplace.

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News Item10/21/12 8:39 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Phelus wrote:
Thomas H McCall sadly is an Arminian.
So what did he say in the book that was untrue?
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News Item10/21/12 5:42 AM
Phelus  Find all comments by Phelus
Thomas H McCall sadly is an Arminian.
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