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WEDNESDAY, OCT 17, 2012  |  64 comments  |  2 commentaries
Article Calling Mormonism a 'Cult' Removed From Billy Graham Website

An article describing Mormonism as a "cult" was removed from the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association's (BGEA) website following Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's visit with Graham last week.

The article described The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly referred to as Mormonism, as a group that "teaches doctrines or beliefs that deviate from the biblical message of the Christian faith." Other groups identified as cults in the article include Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarians, the Unification Church, Scientologists and Spiritists.

The article was removed sometime after Romney, a Mormon, visited Graham at his Montreat, N.C., home last week. Ken Barun, chief of staff for BGEA, said in an emailed statement on Tuesday that the organization removed the article in order to avoid a debate, though he did not specify whether or not the candidate's visit had anything to do ...


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Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Yes, it was very well said.
As for poor old DOS, he can't even discern which thread to post on.
Funny how they have to keep changing monikers to avoid being tied down. And then they never answer questions put to them (him).
The evidence stacks up, and they never argue against it, just distract and try to forget what has gone before. False brethren, false teachers, cult members, you find them all coming on here and trying their subterfuge.
Of course you are correct. I think it is noteworthy that you can pick up on them using different monikers. I guess I just don't understand why someone would do that so I never look for it. If they are trying to represent the truth of God's word and not "actually" trying to mislead people, they wouldn't do that. I even put my email address on my things because if I can't argue a point, then I should probably leave it alone. Some have actually taken me up on that, but they have all lost. Anyway, good for you!

Yes, John this is a miserable world we live in. If I didn't feel that way, then I would be tempted to love it and we know that will never happen. KJV

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News Item10/20/12 1:14 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Curious wrote:
Gentlemen, what is a meditation book?
I have in the past written out my thoughts and studied the scriptures on issues which were puzzling me at the time. I found that writing them out was conducive to thinking objectively about them, and I came to very firm conclusions through that sort of exercise. It was therefore a great blessing to me, although I would not have called the stored material a "meditation file", because of eastern religion connotations.
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News Item10/20/12 8:42 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Very well said Christopher.
Yes, it was very well said.

As for poor old DOS, he can't even discern which thread to post on.

Funny how they have to keep changing monikers to avoid being tied down. And then they never answer questions put to them (him).

The evidence stacks up, and they never argue against it, just distract and try to forget what has gone before. False brethren, false teachers, cult members, you find them all coming on here and trying their subterfuge.

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News Item10/19/12 6:30 PM
Curious | America  Find all comments by Curious
Yes , I would call that journaling. Thank you for your reply.
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News Item10/19/12 6:13 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Curious wrote:
Gentlemen, what is a meditation book?
Sorry about the confusion; it isn't really a book. I am one who meditates on doctrinal and theological issues ( I am also curious) and then I write my thoughts down. I simply call it my meditation file and it is huge. In fact, I actually have some others that are really big, but they are only concerned with one issue. I write my thoughts out and then use the scriptures along with them, so I have literally thousands of scriptures in that file. So when I am looking for something, I usually go to that to find it. If I don't find it there, then I do the usual google or some other bible search tool.

Does that make sense?

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News Item10/19/12 5:58 PM
Curious | America  Find all comments by Curious
Gentlemen, what is a meditation book?
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News Item10/19/12 4:49 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Thanks for your comment. I only tease you with my KJV trials and tribulations. Although that issue is something that does concern me. I remember arguing with StevenR and I used the NASB. He said something to the effect that how can I be taken seriously if I use something other than the KJ and others have said that as well. So, as not to offend those, I really do go through those trials, but it really is not a problem. But, thanks for your comment. When I am in a hurry, then I am likely to use the NASB. I actually don't have any objections to the KJ; as you know I used it for years. I am not a NASB only like jim is. Lastly, right or wrong, I really don't want to offend my weaker brothers.
You've got some good humour Frank, born no doubt out of many decades of living in this miserable world. Keep it up bro, we need some more smiles around here.
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News Item10/19/12 4:06 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Ah now I see what you meant, yes indeed it looks that way.
Frank, if you have a favoured Bible which you trust, and accept it as inerrant, then do please use it, and do not inflict yourself with so many wounds and unnecessary trials and sacrifices. I should not want you to suffer unduly out of deference to those who hold their Bible to be the inspired and inerrant word of God.
Great to see you have a meditation...
Thanks for your comment. I only tease you with my KJV trials and tribulations. Although that issue is something that does concern me. I remember arguing with StevenR and I used the NASB. He said something to the effect that how can I be taken seriously if I use something other than the KJ and others have said that as well. So, as not to offend those, I really do go through those trials, but it really is not a problem. But, thanks for your comment. When I am in a hurry, then I am likely to use the NASB. I actually don't have any objections to the KJ; as you know I used it for years. I am not a NASB only like jim is. Lastly, right or wrong, I really don't want to offend my weaker brothers.
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News Item10/19/12 3:19 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, I teach them to cut ties with the Anglican Church, e.g., The Influence of An Anglican Archbishop on the KJV. Thankfully for Southern Baptists they have, now if we can get a lot of IFB's and Black churches to do the same!

Billy Graham was wrong in all ways about the Bible, He used the KJV and endorsed a dynamic equivalent Bible -- wrong on both counts, q.v., Billy Graham and the Bible. He was right about was Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations.

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News Item10/19/12 3:16 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
I sure hope this fellow doesn't believe that way (believe that Christians will be judged by Christ), but I have a feeling you are correct (actually I am convinced you are correct) and he does feel that way. If he feels that way, then he doesn't understand the verses that I included and he is a lost soul. So, brother, I agree with your thoughts.
I even put my proof verses in the KJV. Do you realize what a pain that is for me to do. I search my meditation file (I have written 870 pages), find the verse in the NASB in my meditation file and then go to Blue Letter Bible and seach for them in the "original" KJ; copy them to a word file and then recopy all that to SA.
All kidding aside, let me know if I can clarify what I said. Your thoughts have as usual been a blessing to me and others I am sure.
Ah now I see what you meant, yes indeed it looks that way.

Frank, if you have a favoured Bible which you trust, and accept it as inerrant, then do please use it, and do not inflict yourself with so many wounds and unnecessary trials and sacrifices. I should not want you to suffer unduly out of deference to those who hold their Bible to be the inspired and inerrant word of God.

Great to see you have a meditation...

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News Item10/19/12 2:43 PM
Dasrew  Find all comments by Dasrew
Jim Lincoln wrote:
but they should cut all ties with Billy Graham as well.
Jim L
If you teach that people should cut ties with Billy Graham - Surely you should also teach them to cut ties with Westcott and Hort too. Its the same family.
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News Item10/19/12 2:30 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
2 John 1
8 Watch yourselves, that you might not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward.
9 Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting;
11 for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.---NASB

Listen to the sermon, Disassociate with False Teachers As a particular note to Southern Baptists, one should not only follow the advice for Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses but they should cut all ties with Billy Graham as well.

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News Item10/19/12 1:38 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Could you rephrase that, Frank. I wot not that thou sayest.
I sure hope this fellow doesn't believe that way (believe that Christians will be judged by Christ), but I have a feeling you are correct (actually I am convinced you are correct) and he does feel that way. If he feels that way, then he doesn't understand the verses that I included and he is a lost soul. So, brother, I agree with your thoughts.

I even put my proof verses in the KJV. Do you realize what a pain that is for me to do. I search my meditation file (I have written 870 pages), find the verse in the NASB in my meditation file and then go to Blue Letter Bible and seach for them in the "original" KJ; copy them to a word file and then recopy all that to SA.

All kidding aside, let me know if I can clarify what I said. Your thoughts have as usual been a blessing to me and others I am sure.

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News Item10/19/12 1:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
I sure hope he doesn't believe way, but you are probably correct.
Could you rephrase that, Frank. I wot not that thou sayest.
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News Item10/19/12 12:46 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
That is a most odd comment, but then it is probably in keeping with its writer. Perhaps you'd like to explain yourself. How can a Christian be judged mercilessly?
Or perhaps you do not believe that the Lord Jesus was judged in our place and bore the whole brunt of God's wrath in our stead, and was judged mercilessly as a substitutionary atonement for his chosen people.
I sure hope he doesn't believe way, but you are probably correct.

Romans 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

2 Corinthians 5:19,21 19. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

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News Item10/19/12 3:01 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Thatposter wrote:
You make sure you foolish foolish men that you NEVER mention repentance without mentioning faith and grace from now on, and word everything correctly and leave nothing out - on that you will be judged and mercilessly.
That is a most odd comment, but then it is probably in keeping with its writer. Perhaps you'd like to explain yourself. How can a Christian be judged mercilessly?

Or perhaps you do not believe that the Lord Jesus was judged in our place and bore the whole brunt of God's wrath in our stead, and was judged mercilessly as a substitutionary atonement for his chosen people.

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News Item10/18/12 8:14 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Christopher000 wrote:
I'm finished with this. You are completely misunderstanding. Reply or don't, I won't be returning to read it. Honestly, I'm not really understanding your replies anyway, but I'm sure others are and can comment.
Maybe I'm completely wrong here and just don't realize it.
Again, my apology for obviously offending you. Take care.
Thatposter is easily offended, Christopher.
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News Item10/18/12 7:33 PM
Christopher000 | RI  Find all comments by Christopher000
I'm finished with this. You are completely misunderstanding. Reply or don't, I won't be returning to read it. Honestly, I'm not really understanding your replies anyway, but I'm sure others are and can comment.

Maybe I'm completely wrong here and just don't realize it.

Again, my apology for obviously offending you. Take care.

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News Item10/18/12 7:21 PM
Thatposter  Find all comments by Thatposter
Christopher000 wrote:
"What business is it of yours what another repents of"
Normally it would not be but the reason for asking was made crystal clear in the post which should be read again.
Once comprehended, it can be taken no other way than one genuinely concerned for another...that's all.
Also, please do not go around speaking for God, singling out who He is going to judge mercilessly.
I'm sorry if I offended you, that was not my intention.
I will repeat myself. What business is it of yours what others repented of?
What is your understanding of Gods forgiveness? Is it partial or obliterated? As far as east from west, or a bit nearer?
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News Item10/18/12 6:36 PM
Christopher000 | RI  Find all comments by Christopher000
"What business is it of yours what another repents of"

Normally it would not be but the reason for asking was made crystal clear in the post which should be read again.

Once comprehended, it can be taken no other way than one genuinely concerned for another...that's all.

Also, please do not go around speaking for God, singling out who He is going to judge mercilessly.

I'm sorry if I offended you, that was not my intention.

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