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MONDAY, OCT 8, 2012  |  20 comments  |  2 commentaries
Why I Am Participating in Pulpit Freedom Sunday
This Sunday I have agreed to join nearly 1,500 pastors nationwide and participate in Pulpit Freedom Sunday, sponsored by Alliance Defending Freedom. In my sermon, I plan to recommend that people vote for one presidential candidate and one political party that I will name. We will then all send our sermons to the IRS.

This action is in violation of the 1954 "Johnson Amendment" to the Internal Revenue Code, which prohibits tax-exempt organizations like churches from endorsing any candidate by name. But in our nation, a higher law than the IRS code is the Constitution, which forbids laws "abridging freedom of speech" or "prohibiting the free exercise" of religion (First Amendment).

I fully understand that many pastors might never want to endorse a candidate from the pulpit (I have never done so before and I might never do so again). But that should be the decision of the pastors and their churches, ...


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Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Phoebe wrote:
I'm not sure it's entirely legal to declare that Democrats are of Hell?
Phoebe wrote:
I'm not sure it's entirely legal to declare that Democrats are of Hell?
Oh? I'm pretty sure it's still legal though Republicans and Democrats care little of law anymore (see Bush's Patriot Act, see just about everything Obama has done in office). Setting aside legality, what else would one call a political party (the Democrats) that support the killing of children via abortion, support the killing of the elderly via hospice/morphine/euthanasia/Obamacare, support the killing of foreigners of all ages via Obama's empirical wars, and do everything they can to promote sodomy and everything they can to attack the Christian religion. Their deeds and doctrines certainly are not of heaven, so I suspect them to be from somewhere far south of it.

P.S. "Less obvious" should have been "more obvious" in my previous post.

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News Item10/9/12 10:50 PM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
I'm not sure it's entirely legal to declare that Democrats are of Hell?
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News Item10/9/12 9:10 PM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Frank wrote:
I agree Rufus; both parties are just as evil and lost. Christ was not a politician; not a conservative; not a liberal and not a moderate. He was the eternal Son of God. Now I probably also agree with you that when we vote there is nothing wrong in voting for the party that we deem to be more desireable for our country and way of life as long as we don't assign a Godly morality to them. The Dems display their sin like Sodom and don't even try and conceal their disdain for God and His word and that is the difference in my mind.
It is an important distinction and the Dems are certainly less obvious, sort of like the Sadducees. There's pretty much no doubt they are of Hell. Yet, the Republicans have this nice facade, they talk a nice game but in the end they say but do not, sort of like the Pharisees. Let every man be persuaded in his own mind but, for me, my conscious can not vote for a Sadducee or a Pharisee.
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News Item10/9/12 7:43 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Rufus wrote:
Between the two major parties that would be a tie. The difference is one is more honest about their evil and the other is more subtle.
I agree Rufus; both parties are just as evil and lost. Christ was not a politician; not a conservative; not a liberal and not a moderate. He was the eternal Son of God. Now I probably also agree with you that when we vote there is nothing wrong in voting for the party that we deem to be more desireable for our country and way of life as long as we don't assign a Godly morality to them. The Dems display their sin like Sodom and don't even try and conceal their disdain for God and His word and that is the difference in my mind.
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Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item10/9/12 5:58 AM
Safe and Secure  Find all comments by Safe and Secure
Rufus wrote:
Between the two major parties that would be a tie. The difference is one is more honest about their evil and the other is more subtle.
You should also see what the Bible has to say about cults and cultists as well when casting your vote.
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News Item10/9/12 12:35 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Mark M. wrote:
It's a very simple matter for any clergy member to "endorse" a particular party. One could show the party platforms of both the Democrats and the Republicans, and simply ask, "Which of these platforms is closer to the beliefs found in the Bible?"
I'll do it for you right now. Which party is more likely to support abortion? Which party is more likely in favor of the homosexual agenda, including gay marriage? Which party is more likely to steal money from your paycheck every week to support those who are too lazy to work...as well as fund abortion mills?
As a Christian you shouldn't vote for members of that party.
Between the two major parties that would be a tie. The difference is one is more honest about their evil and the other is more subtle.
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News Item10/8/12 11:39 PM
Mark M. | in the UAE  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
It's a very simple matter for any clergy member to "endorse" a particular party. One could show the party platforms of both the Democrats and the Republicans, and simply ask, "Which of these platforms is closer to the beliefs found in the Bible?"

I'll do it for you right now. Which party is more likely to support abortion? Which party is more likely in favor of the homosexual agenda, including gay marriage? Which party is more likely to steal money from your paycheck every week to support those who are too lazy to work...as well as fund abortion mills?

As a Christian you shouldn't vote for members of that party.

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News Item10/8/12 7:58 PM
Christian  Find all comments by Christian
John Yurich USA wrote:
Clergy should be able to endorse a political candidate.
Spoken like a true Papist.
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News Item10/8/12 7:14 PM
Jjk | USA  Find all comments by Jjk
That's right! It's about time people stood for what the Real Laws of this Nation are. The Constitutio. agencies of the Bank have no business telling a free people what we can or can't say.
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News Item10/8/12 3:03 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Why not, Mike? Like any business, they should pay property taxes. Any of these political entities should they are just a commercial outfit and should not be given a preferential treatment if they are functioning in a secular way.
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What is the business of the Church? Is it not to be salt and light? How to do that without reference to the infectious disease of sin found in politics? It amazes that some still think preachers should only preach to or about the choir, and not let the light go beyond the doors. Rendering to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, to which you oft refer, includes rendering to Caesar the things he should be told.

PS I agree with those who say churches should not be involved in 501c3. I don't agree that it should stifle what they can say, anymore than a private property exemption for whatever reason, should limit what that person can say.

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News Item10/8/12 2:34 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why not, Mike? Like any business, they should pay property taxes. Any of these political entities should they are just a commercial outfit and should not be given a preferential treatment if they are functioning in a secular way.

While a lot churches won't like the article I mentioned about the Romish Church and it's huge holdings should be taxed since mortmain is oppressive to society.

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News Item10/8/12 2:28 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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Yes, churches who mistake themselves as part of a political party either Repub. or Dem., should have their tax exempt status removed, if they don't voluntarily give it up.
Why? The money given by people to churches has already been taxed. Is there some high principle by which you think it should be taxed again?
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News Item10/8/12 2:09 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
If a church wants to put itself under the headship of men, it does like the Romish Church does, John Y., The Perils of Popery.

The Apostle Paul, "Down with the Emperor! Return the Republic!" Now that must be somewhere in the Bible? or everywhere as some pastors think. There seems to be various forms of Theonomy out there, we need to welcome these political activists to -- the United Methodist Church!

Mark Tooley wrote:
A recent survey showed Methodism on the West Coast, where it is most liberal, lost almost 8 percent of membership in just four recent years. The more moderate Southeast U.S. lost only about 1 percent. Overseas African churches, focused on evangelism and not on politics, gained nearly 30 percent in the same four-year period.
excerpt from, Tea Party vs. United Methodist Church.

Yes, churches who mistake themselves as part of a political party either Repub. or Dem., should have their tax exempt status removed, if they don't voluntarily give it up.

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News Item10/8/12 9:39 AM
KJB Believer  Find all comments by KJB Believer
Thank you tydo.
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News Item10/8/12 9:21 AM
jjj33  Protected NameFind all comments by jjj33
Rufus wrote:
It is perfectly legal. If a church wants to voluntarily place themselves under the headship of the IRS, they are free to do so. If they want to be under the headship of Jesus Christ than they should not sign the document to turn themselves into a 501c3 organization and they should not incorporate (becoming a creature of the state).
Well said, these guys are open rebels.
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News Item10/8/12 8:29 AM
typo  Find all comments by typo
KJB Believer wrote:
I wonder how many are 501k?
501(c)(3).
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News Item10/8/12 8:27 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
John Yurich USA wrote:
That IRS code should be eliminated as it is in violation of the Constitution. Clergy should be able to endorse a political candidate.
It is perfectly legal. If a church wants to voluntarily place themselves under the headship of the IRS, they are free to do so. If they want to be under the headship of Jesus Christ than they should not sign the document to turn themselves into a 501c3 organization and they should not incorporate (becoming a creature of the state).
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News Item10/8/12 8:02 AM
KJB Believer  Find all comments by KJB Believer
I wonder how many are 501k?
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News Item10/8/12 6:04 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
That IRS code should be eliminated as it is in violation of the Constitution. Clergy should be able to endorse a political candidate.
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