Al Qaeda in Yemen urges Muslims to kill U.S. diplomats over film
The Yemen-based branch of al Qaeda urged Muslims to step up protests and kill more U.S. diplomats in Muslim countries after a U.S.-made film mocking the Prophet Mohammad which it said was another chapter in the "crusader wars" against Islam.
"Whoever comes across America's ambassadors or emissaries should follow the example of Omar al-Mukhtar's descendants (Libyans), who killed the American ambassador," the group said, referring to Tuesday's attack on the U.S. consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi.
"Let the step of kicking out the embassies be a step towards liberating Muslim countries from the American hegemony," a statement posted on an Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) website on Saturday said....
McGra wrote: I guess I'll never convert you to love thy neighbour when he is far away, foreign and down an' out. As for 'E' above I think it is very mean of you to denigrate the "World Boxing Council" in that way.
Everyone knows I wasnt talking about the World Boxing Council. Your argument is ridiculous. We are 16 TRILLION dollars in debt. We do not have money to help anybody. How can you not understand that! And just because someone is down and out doesnt mean they deserve a handout. Christianity is not defined by the giving of goods to the "down and out" anybody can do that
mjg fayetteville wrote: E.Absolutely I have decried the workings of WBC on more then one occasion. I do not believe they are Christians. The difference is I do it peaceably.
I guess I'll never convert you to love thy neighbour when he is far away, foreign and down an' out.
As for 'E' above I think it is very mean of you to denigrate the "World Boxing Council" in that way.
McGra wrote: a] You know very well that is a lie. b] Please tell me if I got this [hate] right! = Yeah y'all got that right. c] Not true! Now you are just being facetious. d] Not true! Unobjective Bias! e] Would you attack your own countrymen and religion for those same reasons? f] You've got more than enough - A lot more than Jesus and the Apostles had. g[ It is parasdise to those who have no education, no money and no future.
A. If I was wrong in interpreting your argument you should have elaborated B. Ad Hominem C. It is true that they have been fighting each other and Israel for years.( the Koran commands them to) this one is easy if you have read history D. The only objective standard I could think of is to compare to US being that education, liberty, and womens rights are celebrated here and we do live better than them. (there must be a connection somewhere) E.Absolutely I have decried the workings of WBC on more then one occasion. I do not believe they are Christians. The difference is I do it peaceably. F. Glad you are aware of my finances but isnt that really off topic. Basically SO WHAT I have more than them. It in no wise makes me obligated to Muslims. G. That describes plenty of people in Fayetteville but seriously off top
mjg fayetteville wrote: a] So now your argument is that because I supposedly have it better than them they deserve a handout or an excuse? b] Please tell me if I got this right! c] Their problems stem from the fact that they have been fighting each other for years along with others which keeps them in constant poverty. d] Their strict laws on liberty, education and of women keeps them in a bad spot. e] Also the "supposedly peaceful" Muslims do not decry or try to stop the violence in fact as I stated earlier I believe they support the violence by their silence. f] Throwing money we dont have at Muslims will not give them a better or changed life. g] Money or land does not make people better people. Oh and I know this is off topic but Fayetteville is a far cry from paradise.
a] You know very well that is a lie. b] Please tell me if I got this [hate] right! = Yeah y'all got that right. c] Not true! Now you are just being facetious. d] Not true! Unobjective Bias! e] Would you attack your own countrymen and religion for those same reasons? f] You've got more than enough - A lot more than Jesus and the Apostles had. g[ It is parasdise to those who have no education, no money and no future.
McGra wrote: Oh I don't know! Imagine if some of those poverty struck, coarse, unsophisticated, boorish, uneducated person of little financial means OR FUTURE, were able to boast of this little rich patch of soil. Wouldn't that kind of wealthy mammon worshipping decadent little paradise have quite an effect upon their outlook and way of life???
So now your argument is that because I supposedly have it better than them they deserve a handout or an excuse? Please tell me if I got this right! Their problems stem from the fact that they have been fighting each other for years along with others which keeps them in constant poverty. Their strict laws on liberty, education and of women keeps them in a bad spot. Also the "supposedly peaceful" Muslims do not decry or try to stop the violence in fact as I stated earlier I believe they support the violence by their silence. Throwing money we dont have at Muslims will not give them a better or changed life. Money or land does not make people better people. Oh and I know this is off topic but Fayetteville is a far cry from paradise.
mjg fayetteville wrote: So if I am reading your argument right all their problems stem from the fact that they are located on a different patch of soil then me? This may account for poor crop production but does not account or permit for acts of violence
Oh I don't know! Imagine if some of those poverty struck, coarse, unsophisticated, boorish, uneducated person of little financial means OR FUTURE, were able to boast of this little rich patch of soil ....
"Fort Bragg is the backbone of the county's economy. Fort Bragg and Pope Army Airfield pumps about $4.5 billion a year into the region's economy, making Fayetteville one of the best retail markets in the country. Fayetteville serves as the region's hub for shops, restaurants, services, lodging, health care and entertainment. Fayetteville boasts a low unemployment rate with a large labor pool of trained professionals. Fayetteville also has the 2nd highest Per capita income in the state, ahead of Charlotte and Raleigh"
Wouldn't that kind of wealthy mammon worshipping decadent little paradise have quite an effect upon their outlook and way of life???
McGra wrote: I do not agree with mjg, it seems his statement emerges from the arrogance and egoism found all to often in the western nations. The eastern nations are beset with many problems including a distict lack of civilizing influences such as education. That is not a 'fault' per se, but a geographic deficiency through no fault of their own, for example the abject poverty that is in these countries. Thus many people and nations try to sympathise with there predicament and help through genuine aid projects. That is the Christian thing to do - Not egotistical verbal attacks.
I am glad that you are willing to condemn my views as a Christian while being completely unwilling to condemn the Islamic views on violence. This gives us a place to start. So if I am reading your argument right all their problems stem from the fact that they are located on a different patch of soil then me? This may account for poor crop production but does not account or permit for acts of violence Nor does it stop "peaceful Muslims" from speaking out against these acts of violence which I have not seen yet. And why should we send money we dont have to them. They wont help us later if we become in need. That much is certain. And how was that egotistic?
Elise wrote: I agree with mjg Fayetteville and the same goes for the UK.
I do not agree with mjg, it seems his statement emerges from the arrogance and egoism found all to often in the western nations. The eastern nations are beset with many problems including a distict lack of civilizing influences such as education. That is not a 'fault' per se, but a geographic deficiency through no fault of their own, for example the abject poverty that is in these countries. Thus many people and nations try to sympathise with there predicament and help through genuine aid projects. That is the Christian thing to do - Not egotistical verbal attacks. Look at the difference between those in eastern countries from that ethnic group and then at the same group in UK, US and Europe. Note the difference???
Samuel Palin wrote: You really know how to display that you have no evidence at all for your bile.
All you had to do for a cogent rebuttal was to post several examples (preferrably from Yemen, Libya or Afghanistan) of Muslims denouncing the recent violent actions but, all you did was just say I was wrong. Please I want to learn! Show me where I am wrong and that we should give money we dont have to Muslims. I really want to know if there are Muslims decrying these actions in these countries. I desperately want to know that our money isnt going to fund Islamic violence...sadly I think I already have my answers.
Elise wrote: I agree with mjg Fayetteville and the same goes for the UK.
Elise, Scotland We, the U.S. is so guilty, including many (I hate to use the word) churches that have supported Muslims.
2 Chronicles 19:1,2 1 And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem. 2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat,
Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
It simply shouldn't take a rocket scientist of a theologian to KNOW such sin reaps terrible consequences, especially when modern day (I hate to use the word) pastors are so silent of the sin against God we have continued to practise in aiding and abetting our own enemies but especially the enemies of Christ.
Samuel Palin wrote: It is Al-Qaeda that is encouraging violence against America and its citizens. The US does not give $345MM of aid to Al-Qaeda. Education and instruction is better than anger against your ignorance. Aid - don't die of ignorance!
I have not heard one dissenting voice from yemen regarding their violence nor for that matter the entire muslim world. If you know of some post them please. If supposedly peaceful Muslims are not willing to stand against this "small faction" then by default they are with them. In fact I would go so far as to say that they support their apostles. I think any money given to an Islamic nation will go in some part to support their continuing war effort. You have to remember in their do or die religion they are just as quick to kill their own people as they are to kill others. So of course the Muslim world supports them even if it is in the form of "shakedown money" And another questio why are we aiding them when we are so far in the hole we cant see the ligt! We have our own mountains of debt to deal with we dont need to be giving handouts to Muslims or anyone else for that matter.
It is Al-Qaeda that is encouraging violence against America and its citizens. The US does not give $345MM of aid to Al-Qaeda. Education and instruction is better than anger against your ignorance.
Aid - don't die of ignorance!
mjg fayetteville wrote: these people actively encourage violence against America and its citizens. We are already desperately in debt and we are giving them 345 million this year.why! I am not sure that angry is a strong enough word for what I feel about this.
Caroline Glick wrote: A cursory consideration of the events that took place – and are still taking place – makes clear that these were not acts of spontaneous rage about an amateur Internet movie. They were premeditated. In Egypt, the mob attack on the embassy followed the screening of the anti-Islam flick on jihadist television. It was led by Muhammad al-Zawahiri – the brother of al-Qaida chief Ayman al-Zawahiri.
We need more and much better done movies about Muhammad, not fewer.
I hope some sound thinking Americans are going to put the morons who made and published this film into jail for culpable homicide, for the rest of their lives.
And don't give me freedom of speech on this. That film was not freedom of speech it was a direct incendiary bomb aimed in one specific direction. Anyone with more than one brain cell would know that it would create havoc against innocent Americans. That is murder!!
The likes of Terry (the terorrist) Jones of course don't have more that one brain cell active on simple logic.
these people actively encourage violence against America and its citizens. We are already desperately in debt and we are giving them 345 million this year.why! I am not sure that angry is a strong enough word for what I feel about this.
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Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
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