Theologians Tackle 'Should Christians Vote for a Mormon for President?'
Should Christians vote for a Mormon presidential candidate? That's the question many evangelicals are grappling with as the November election draws near.
While pondering the ramifications of a Mormon in the White House, some prominent Southern Baptist theologians have emphasized that whatever happens on Election Day will not affect the work of the Kingdom of God.
"The Kingdom is not riding on whatever happens on election day and the church's mission isn't going to change regardless of what happens ... on Election Day," said Dr. R. Albert Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, on Tuesday.
During a panel discussion at the Louisville seminary, Mohler recognized that the hardest issue for many "thoughtful" evangelicals is not merely political. The question on their minds is, "What does it mean worldwide for a Mormon, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day...
jpw wrote: --- we have been led to this point through fear mongering. compromised all that we were about and followed false prophets as our spiritual leaders, such as taught a dualistic gospel.
A case for fear-mongering could be made of those who imply we're all going to be singers in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.
once you get over that hurdle, you can squeeze your nose and put the vote in.
better question is if this person will fulfill the conh'l duties of the pres.
both have shown vehemence for it.
better question is if this person's theology would affect their pres'l role against the cohn limits?
and both parties have shown vehemence for the lives of Christians fleeing from our foreign adventures throughout the ME.
if american church leaders would not report on this and it come from our own hand, will God spare it of us?
the world is one crazy place right now, but as for God, He purifies His church first.
we have been led to this point through fear mongering. compromised all that we were about and followed false prophets as our spiritual leaders, such as taught a dualistic gospel.
Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people. America has removed the ancient landmark which their fathers have set, and has truly diverted from its godly foundation and heritage. God is on a mission to restore that- because of His righteousness. And He can use anybody to accomplish this. He used Pharaoh, and also Nebuchadnezzar. He sure can use a Mormon!
Jim Lincoln wrote: Did I say, anything about Obama/Biden?...
Not directly, just as I said by implication, unless the Romney/Ryan ticket main opponent was somebody of whom I was unaware. Also, unless I am missing the point you are trying to make, by saying the second half applies to republicans you are implying that they are the thieves and covetous. That applies far more to the democratic party than the republican. But seeing we are talking election candidates, and you like to research. Check out the giving to charities of Romney/Ryan ticket and compare it to Obama/Biden ticket and see which one fits the definition of greed and covetousness. Also, lest you try and say it is because Romney has more money, you can throw in former democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.
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A true independent would not leave out the democrat scandals http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/democrat-scandals-you-wouldnt-hear-from-the-liberal-mainstream-media/
Did I say, anything about Obama/Biden? By the way, I would rather see a good conservative Jew or Free Mason run for those offices. I try to refrain from commenting on sitting Presidents just when Baby Bush and Billy Clinton were President.
No, the plutocracy that the Republicans support, and a goodly number that are a part of it, their sin has effected personally. I would suggest you look at the short video, Mike Lofgren -- Independent. When I get the time I suppose I'll peruse The Financial Oligarchy in the US. Guess what they gave me a cause because they hit me in my wallet when they were lining their pockets. I really don't care about much else though I should have given more attention to The Record of Republican Corruption. Guess what? I'm going to do my best to get the bums thrown out or not re-elected (Period).
So have I said Democrats are angels? I really don't know how often that the first verse of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 applies to Democrats, usually and he second to Republicans, usua
Jim Lincoln wrote: Supporting the unholy duo of Romney/Ryan ...
Oh, so it must be by implication be that Obama/Biden are great defenders of the faith and examples of piety. That their political beliefs (because we are not voting for the head of a religious state) are founded solidly on the Word of God.....REALLY????
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A true independent would not leave out the democrat scandals http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/democrat-scandals-you-wouldnt-hear-from-the-liberal-mainstream-media/
You really think there isn't ample evidence of financial scandals on the democratic side of the aisle, honestly I know you are smarter than that.
Alan H wrote: All of those things which you mention are the sinful fruits of our having forsaken the living and just God as a nation. Your vote is just another indication that you are unwilling to repent, but you still put your trust in a sinful "MAN." How can you express your approval by ballot to that which God opposes? "It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes." Ps 118:9 "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help." Ps 146:3
There are only two possible presidential candidates Obama and Romney who have a chance of winning at the present moment in history. No Independent presidential candidate has a chance of winning at the present moment in history. So it is a choice of wanting the socialism and godless policies of Obama to continue or wanting Godly policies to be reinstated in the United States by going back to permitting each state to determine whether to permit abortion. And for homosexuality to again be declared unlawful.
John Yurich USA wrote: Do you actually want the United States of America to fall under the rule of another country and be no more? That is exactly what will happen if Obama re elected president instead of Romney being elected president. What kind of an idiot is not concerned about abortion and homosexuality running rampant in the United States because of Obama and the Democrat politicians? Are you so illogical that you don't want to see that if Obama is re elected instead of Romney being elected that abortion and homosexuality running rampant in the United States will continue and then the full judgment of God will surely come upon the United States? Jim Lo you actually believe that an Independent presidential candidate stands a chance of winning the presidency?
All of those things which you mention are the sinful fruits of our having forsaken the living and just God as a nation. Your vote is just another indication that you are unwilling to repent, but you still put your trust in a sinful "MAN."
How can you express your approval by ballot to that which God opposes?
"It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes." Ps 118:9
"Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help." Ps 146:3
Some of these comments are absurd. We are not voting for the head of our denomination and unfortunately the choice is a Mormon and a godless socialist or perhaps a closet Muslim but if Obama is a Christian I'm a tunafish sandwich. His stance against Israel and hostility toward our founding documents and biblical morality, his absolute failure in leadership around the globe make 4 more years scarier than a Freddie Kruger movie...really are you gonna vote for Obama or stay home and let socialists take over the country? Shame.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Quite right Alan H., some good reasons we can't vote for this particular Mormon, ---
Jim, are you willing to say for whom you will cast your vote? Or are you going to be a right proper Christian, staying home with eyes closed and ears plugged?
Alan H wrote: Better for America to be cast into Hell than for any professing Christian to choose evil simply because one thing seems less evil than the other.
Do you actually want the United States of America to fall under the rule of another country and be no more? That is exactly what will happen if Obama re elected president instead of Romney being elected president. What kind of an idiot is not concerned about abortion and homosexuality running rampant in the United States because of Obama and the Democrat politicians? Are you so illogical that you don't want to see that if Obama is re elected instead of Romney being elected that abortion and homosexuality running rampant in the United States will continue and then the full judgment of God will surely come upon the United States?
Jim Lo you actually believe that an Independent presidential candidate stands a chance of winning the presidency?
I would like to humbly remind you all that everything that a believer does must be done with God, and the glory of God, in mind. If he is an American, he is a Christian first, and his nationality is and must always remain subbordinate to that first spiritual principle (kingdom). His chief duty is to the Lord Jesus Christ, and any other conduct must not breach that subjection.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth Eph 5:10 – Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord –. Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
I'm much more comfortable voting for a Mormon than, say, a Muslim (which Obama at times has appeared to be, but I don't think that he actually is one). At least Mormonism is an American religion, and thus would be expected to have American interests at heart more than a comparable "international" movement.
Also, with the economy in the mess that it is in now I'd much rather have a business-savy guy like Romney under the hood than some disconnected ivy-league know-it-alls like we have in there now.
Alan H wrote: "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." 2 Chron 7:14 That, and that only, is our solution.
Alan H Excellent quote! Even better when pastors and congregations take hold of it and do what God has told us to do in times such as these.
Yet, considering judgment on the U.S. is coming and is already here, and our choices will, not maybe, affect what churches and families will go through. Old Testament before Israel went to captivity there was a time He spoke to His people through His prophets essentially telling the people surrender to Babylon go into captivity for your sins, it will be hard but you will come out of it (the better choice) DON'T attempt to flee to Eygpt (a choice with worse consequences).
So between the Democrats and the Republicans it shouldn't take a rocket scientist of a theologian to see who would be the better vote, the one with the best possibility of a measure of stability in the midst of God's judgment and versus the utter disaster of a party whose platform throws its sin in the face of God.
Those who say they are choosing the lesser of two evils in the way they vote have condemned themselves in acknowledging both are evil - and yet they still choose one of the two, clearly being aware that both are evil. It is NEVER right to do wrong.
Better for America to be cast into Hell than for any professing Christian to choose evil simply because one thing seems less evil than the other. Where, pray tell, is this principle of choosing "the lesser of two evils" found in the Scripture? Oh it certainly is, but it is the side of darkness that makes use of it...
God help us!
"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." 2 Chron 7:14
If Roe v Wade was overturned (taint gonna happen) it would simply put abortion laws back into the hands of the states where it was. It was legal in one state then. More than likely it would legalized in the vast majority of the states if it were thrown back to them. The best way to reduce the number of abortions is to defund Planned Parenthood. Like they did in Texas. Now which party is in power there? Our best weapon -- prayer.