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THURSDAY, AUG 23, 2012  |  5 comments
'Destruction of the weakest' essential to evolution, prof says
A theistic evolutionist "simply cannot escape the fact that the necessary corollary to survival of the fittest is destruction of the weakest and therefore, he must view death as a primary creative force of God," a Southern Baptist professor writes in the latest exchange with The BioLogos Foundation.

"This, though, is contrary to the biblical view, which depicts death as an invader, disturber of peace, and a force of evil," John Laing, associate professor of systematic theology and philosophy at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, wrote on the topic of evolution and death. ...


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Frank | Clearwater, FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
xology wrote:
Genesis depicts plants as given for food, "and every chomp kills.""

However this point begats the question, "Why did God create the tree of Life?"

Very interesting thoughts! I agree that plants were created for the purpose of being food. Some might argue, that is death, but then I can't find any verse that says a plant has a soul, so I would not call that death in the sense I view death. I remember arguing with a "old earth" fellow who used the thought that since Adam ate plants that death existed prior to Adam's sin over billions of years.

The tree of life is really interesting. I'm not all that sure if I understand why God created it, so I'll keep my conjecture to myself, but it does appear to have eternal purposes. Note that it appears twice in Revelations; 2:7 and 22:2. Also Ezekiel 47 may have a reference to it.

As an aside, I am a young earth 6 literal 24 hour person.

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News Item8/23/12 3:22 PM
vicissitudes  Find all comments by vicissitudes
The Entropy Law.
"The second law of Thermodynamics, points out, that "The universe is like a clock which is running down." But, the evolutionists say that the world has been building up from simpler to more complex forms over billions of years. Evidently, this view of the evolutionists is contrary to the well-established second law of thermodynamics. For, in actual practice, we observe that the changes in the physical universe are caused by running down and not by building up. For example, complex atoms, like those of uranium and thorium disintergarate into less complex ones like radium or lead, but it has never been in the reverse order. The complex stars also break down into nebulae and this happens in a few hours’ time, as observed at present: it does not happen in millions of years. Similarly, the sun burns about 250 million tons of matter per minute. Such a huge process of annihilation must have been going on in the stars also, Evidently, it is not a process of building up of energy or of evolution of more complex forms but it is a process of dissipation and disintergration into simple forms. The theory of evolution, being contradictory to this well-established law, is erroneous" (webhome.idirect.com)
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News Item8/23/12 2:24 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I like your comments gentlemen, and I'll add another's
Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
To explain how Christ justified all people by His death, the apostle Paul used a comparison between Adam and Christ.

The following points of comparison are made: what one man did; how that one act, by one man, affects the many, and the consequences of the one act of each man.

How mankind got into the position and condition to need the provision Christ's death made began with the action of one man. Adam, as our representative, by his one act of disobedience, acted on behalf of the whole human race. By Adam's one act we were all automatically impacted.

The result of Christ’s one act of obedience was the free gift of justification being provided by all. His death alone saves no one, but His death made the provision for the salvation of everyone. However, that provision must be received by each individual personally placing their faith being in Christ alone to be saved.

summary for, By Adam Death, By Christ Life
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News Item8/23/12 11:34 AM
xology  Find all comments by xology
"Schloss asked, "Is non-human death an evil?" Some argue, he said, that the early chapters of Genesis clearly depict "consumption of life and resulting death as part of primordial creation." Genesis depicts plants as given for food, "and every chomp kills.""

From the moment of creation plants were created to be food for man and animals. That is the reason for their creation.

From the moment of creation man was not created to die. Only when sin was added did death become the ultimate consequence for the mortal on earth.

However this point begats the question, "Why did God create the tree of Life?"
Gen 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:...."

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News Item8/23/12 10:10 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
so if a procedure is done, and some are destroyed by it, the rationale is that they have sifted out the weakest...... when in fact they may have just damaged the strongest.

mankind is able to rationalize anything as good with their philosophies.

and this is the foundation, or justification of eugenics.

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