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WEDNESDAY, AUG 22, 2012  |  14 comments
Study: Religious — Not Rich — Americans Give Most to Charity

The Chronicle of Philanthropy on August 20 issued the findings of a new study of Americans and their patterns of giving, based on the itemized deductions for 2008 tax returns, the most recent year available, with the data broken down by zip code. Among the findings was that the most religious Americans — not the richest — were the most likely to give to charities.

The five most generous states, in order, were Utah, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina. The stingiest states, in order, were New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. The patterns were consistent when metropolitan areas were analyzed. The most generous metropolitan areas in the country were Salt Lake City, Memphis, and Birmingham. The stingiest were Boston and Providence, Rhode Island. The two zip codes with the highest income were 10274 and 10122 — both in New York City. These two ranked a dismal ...


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News Item8/22/12 3:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
columbidae wrote:

John. S'not pijins -
"On the eighth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Eight maids a-milking,
Seven swans a-swimming,
Six geese a-laying,
Five golden rings,
Four calling birds,
Three French hens,
Two turtle doves,
And a partridge in a pear tree"
Ha! It makes I smile.

But it's.....

Luke 2:21-24 KJV
21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord
24 And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.

Now if you want to do away with the pigeons, ye'll need to do away with the tithe law also, and get a bit of freedom in Christ. We are bound by the law of Christ, not the OT law.

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News Item8/22/12 3:01 PM
KJV English speaking-Onlyist  Find all comments by KJV English speaking-Onlyist
John UK wrote:
Have you never thought about why you reject the eighth-day pigeon?

What in the world John UK?
It not strange that New England states are the stingiest states in America(I was born and raise for 16 years a New Englander)

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News Item8/22/12 2:58 PM
columbidae  Find all comments by columbidae
John UK wrote:
Have you never thought about why you reject the eighth-day pigeon?

John. S'not pijins -

"On the eighth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Eight maids a-milking,
Seven swans a-swimming,
Six geese a-laying,
Five golden rings,
Four calling birds,
Three French hens,
Two turtle doves,
And a partridge in a pear tree"

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News Item8/22/12 2:49 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
good stewards wrote:
Is this why you reject tithing?
Have you never thought about why you reject the eighth-day pigeon?
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News Item8/22/12 2:32 PM
good stewards  Find all comments by good stewards
John UK wrote:
You cannot be SERIOUS!!
Are you, Barry?
Admit it John.
You are a wealthy capitialist too.
Is this why you reject tithing?

"Rather than being a cause for self-indulgence, compromise, rebellion or any other sin, the doctrine of providence is actually a sure ground for trust and a spur to faithfulness."

"Calvin has left us with wise advice on this subject.
"Gratitude of mind for the favorable outcome of things, patience in adversity, and also incredible freedom from worry about the future all necessarily follow upon this knowledge. Therefore, whatever shall happen prosperously and according to the desire of his heart, God's servant will attribute wholly to God, whether he feels God's beneficence through the ministry of men, or has been helped by inanimate creatures. For thus he will reason in his mind: surely it is the Lord who has inclined their hearts to me, who has so bound them to me that they should become the instruments of his kindness." (John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion)

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News Item8/22/12 1:10 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Barry from Ky wrote:
John, you are talking to americans... you have NO idea about how 'important' possessions are...
Over here the more you own the better of a person you are and the more respect you get. That's our thing...
You cannot be SERIOUS!!

Are you, Barry?

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News Item8/22/12 1:07 PM
KJV English speaking-Onlyist  Find all comments by KJV English speaking-Onlyist
Barry from Ky said
Over here the more you own the better of a person you are and the more respect you get. That's our thing...

And they are now losing it.

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News Item8/22/12 1:05 PM
Barry from Ky | Northern Ky  Find all comments by Barry from Ky
"But you see, the British culture has so invaded the mind, that private possessions are the IN thing, which is why I was alone."[/QUOTE]John, you are talking to americans... you have NO idea about how 'important' possessions are...

Over here the more you own the better of a person you are and the more respect you get. That's our thing...

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News Item8/22/12 11:49 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
good stewards wrote:
J
Don't encourage parsimony with God's providence.
Parsimony? Parsimony?! I just quoted from Malachi, who said, "Bring all the tithes....."

However, I said I would give the problem.

Down in Somerset, not far from Minehead, a former holiday camp was up for grabs, with enough accommodation for about thirty families, and room for a central church. Was anyone interested? Only me.

If thirty families lived close by like that, imagine the monies made available for the Lord's work. For instance, instead of thirty electric drills, you have only one shared one. Same with spades, forks, rotovators etc. The petrol saved on not using your car to attend church 20 miles away would be phenomenal. In fact, you would only need a few cars instead of thirty or forty. Think of the savings on cars alone! Food bought in bulk or cultivated in your own veggie plot would again save money. And instead of folks going on foreign holidays costing a packet, everyone could rent between them a coach to go on the occasional day trip - loaded with tracts, of course! Of course! Plenty of dosh available for missions.

But you see, the British culture has so invaded the mind, that private possessions are the IN thing, which is why I was alone.

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News Item8/22/12 11:36 AM
good stewards  Find all comments by good stewards
John UK wrote:
In the next post
J
Don't encourage parsimony with God's providence.
If you give graciously, so will you receive.
Christians have proven this.

Sermon on the AMount: What the Bible teaches about tithes and offerings

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News Item8/22/12 11:24 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
good stewards wrote:
"Fifteen percent of everything Jesus said is related to money and possessions. Our Lord made more reference to money and possessions than to either prayer or faith. He spoke about money and possessions more than heaven and hell combined.
Why? Because the Scriptures make clear there is a fundamental connection between a person’s spiritual life and his attitudes and actions concerning money and possessions. Often we divorce the two—Christ sees them as essentially related to one another.
Luke 19:1-10. Zaccheus, tax collector; tells Jesus he will pay back 4 times and give half to the poor. Jesus: “Today salvation has come to this house.” How does Jesus judge this fundamental change in Zaccheus’s heart? By the fundamental change in his attitudes and actions concerning money and possessions. (Change didn’t earn his salvation, but demonstrated it.)" (R.Alcom)Tithing as the Minimum Standard of Christian Giving
Most excellent post. Now if you could only convince churches, the floodgates may yet open, and the Lord pour out a blessing too big to contain.

In the next post I will tell you what the problem is.

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News Item8/22/12 11:15 AM
good stewards  Find all comments by good stewards
John UK wrote:
this unto you.
"Fifteen percent of everything Jesus said is related to money and possessions. Our Lord made more reference to money and possessions than to either prayer or faith. He spoke about money and possessions more than heaven and hell combined.

Why? Because the Scriptures make clear there is a fundamental connection between a person’s spiritual life and his attitudes and actions concerning money and possessions. Often we divorce the two—Christ sees them as essentially related to one another.

Luke 19:1-10. Zaccheus, tax collector; tells Jesus he will pay back 4 times and give half to the poor. Jesus: “Today salvation has come to this house.” How does Jesus judge this fundamental change in Zaccheus’s heart? By the fundamental change in his attitudes and actions concerning money and possessions. (Change didn’t earn his salvation, but demonstrated it.)" (R.Alcom)Tithing as the Minimum Standard of Christian Giving

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News Item8/22/12 11:06 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
good stewards wrote:
If you return to the previous article on tithing... Should Christians give all of the tithe It will reveal that some Christians are not amongst the quote "most religious" as identified in this latest article.
Philippians 3:13-15 KJV
13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
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News Item8/22/12 9:29 AM
good stewards  Find all comments by good stewards
If you return to the previous article on tithing... Should Christians give all of the tithe It will reveal that some Christians are not amongst the quote "most religious" as identified in this latest article.
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