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FRONT PAGE  |  8/4/2015
SUNDAY, JUL 29, 2012  |  15 comments
PETA takes 'bets' on when senator will die after objection to USDA vegetarian push


Sen. Charles Grassley

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has started taking "bets" on its website over when Sen. Charles Grassley will die, after the Iowa Republican scolded the Department of Agriculture for advocating a vegetarian diet.

The USDA drew the ire of rural state lawmakers over a newsletter urging department employees to embrace "Meatless Mondays." The USDA later retracted the newsletter and said it wasn't properly vetted, but Grassley vented on Twitter that he plans to "eat more meat on Monday to compensate for stupid USDA recommendation."

PETA, on its website, accused Grassley of fighting for Americans' right to be "sick and fat." ...


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News Item7/30/12 4:58 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
I wonder if people on the Atkins diet are more violent than vegetarians? We would all become better if we were like Adolph Hitler – Vegetarian, Teetotaler, Anti-Smoking Campaigner
From the link:
"Hitler was a complex figure: an inhuman monster who could nevertheless love animals, espouse vegetarianism and be vehemently opposed to smoking."

What is so complex? Today we have anti-smoking animal rights types, many of whom have no problem with abortion. Is this so different?

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News Item7/30/12 3:54 PM
Fusdik Binkleshok  Find all comments by Fusdik Binkleshok
Jim Lincoln wrote:
I wonder if people on the Atkins diet are more violent than vegetarians? We would all become better if we were like Adolph Hitler – Vegetarian, Teetotaler, Anti-Smoking Campaigner
JL. Folks on the NASB diet are the most dangerous of all. Veggies pale into insignificance compared with them! After all hairytiks never interfere with their veracity or versimilitudes.
Old is always best can be authenticated by the real book.
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News Item7/30/12 3:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I wonder if people on the Atkins diet are more violent than vegetarians? We would all become better if we were like Adolph Hitler – Vegetarian, Teetotaler, Anti-Smoking Campaigner
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News Item7/30/12 1:18 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
solutions wrote:
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Perhaps obese America would be the safer option then gun shops would be irrelevant?
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Now I think you're onto something. I can see the slogans now..."Just Indulge" "Obesity-the New Patriotism" "Stop Violence Now-Eat More Meat"

Thousands could die from eating too much meat, but at least there wouldn't be media hysterics over it, with accompanying calls to stop the easy access to cows and pigs and such, seeing as how slow deaths of large numbers of people are not newsworthy.

I like your idea. I don't think the Dept of Agriculture will go for it, though.

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News Item7/30/12 10:42 AM
solutions  Find all comments by solutions
Mike wrote:
These had low cholesterol, therefore there is a relationship? Of the 79677 remaining how many also had "below the median" cholesterol, yet did not meet the criteria for criminal violence?
Perhaps Mike, you should suggest to Homeland Security that it would be a good idea for a "low cholesterol" test to be done on everybody entering the myriad of legal arsenals you support in the shopping malls.

These "meatless Mondays" recommended by USDA might be viewed by some as healthy eating but the risk taken by America with all these armories around could be the cause of the multi-kill sprees. Therefore you could recommend an increase of cholesterol, meat consumption, to reduce the criminal violence stats.

Perhaps obese America would be the safer option then gun shops would be irrelevant?

Article quote;
"One simple way to reduce your environmental impact while dining at our cafeterias is to participate in the "Meatless Monday" initiative," the USDA newsletter said. "This international effort, as the name implies, encourages people not to eat meat on Mondays."

What America forgets is that many countries have compulsory meatless mondays, tuesdays, wednesdays, thursdays, fridays, saturdays and sundays.

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News Item7/29/12 8:06 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Jim, "solutions" may go to congress and force all good Nebraskans to get a blood test for cholesterol for national security purposes. this is the kind of advanced society we are dealing with.

try weston a price foundation, you'll get a balanced perspective and history of food.

if they were to succeed in ending meat production, you will still have your self-destroying GM grains to eat. well, maybe that's all. hope you like porridge.

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News Item7/29/12 4:17 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
solutions wrote:
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"We merged one-time cholesterol measurements on 79,777 subjects enrolled in a health screening project in Varmland, Sweden with subsequent police records for arrests for violent crimes in men and women aged 24-70..
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RESULTS: One hundred individuals met criteria for criminal violence. Low cholesterol (below the median) was strongly associated with criminal violence in unadjusted analysis (Men: risk ratio 1.94.
Age emerged as a strong confounder. Adjusting for covariates using a matching procedure, violent criminals had significantly lower cholesterol than others identical in age, sex, alcohol indices and education, using a nonparametric sign test.
CONCLUSIONS: Adjusting for other factors, low cholesterol is associated with increased subsequent criminal violence" (University of California)
Fuzzy, incomplete data. 100(0.125+%) out of 79777 met the criteria for criminal violence. These had low cholesterol, therefore there is a relationship? Of the 79677 remaining how many also had "below the median" cholesterol, yet did not meet the criteria for criminal violence? The number of "subjects" tested would say way more than the 100 used to draw the conclusion.

But when funding requires novel conclusions...

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News Item7/29/12 3:48 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Yes, jpw, sometimes diets are from an unhealthy, i.e., erroneous religious belief, which isn't Christian, and for the physical part of it, Vegetarian Diet Deficiencies Are a Proven Fact as far as GM foods are concerned, deep down in that WebMD page (on page 2) Are Biotech Foods Safe to Eat? you'll find:
WebMD wrote:
Jaffe agrees that overall, the current genetically modified crops -- which he says are generally one-gene additions -- are safe. He says no food is 100% safe -- genetically modified or not -- and the odds of having an adverse reaction to a genetically modified food are slim....
.

This is a new way of lobbying I'll have to say, not in the still typical old fashion mode, ‘Evil’ lobbyist Jack Abramoff talk US politics (short YouTube), but interesting anyway.

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News Item7/29/12 3:27 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
the vegetarian thing is much more than some bogus philosophy on food, as the power struggle of this article fully reveals.

this is about agenda 21, the GMOing of food, consolidating of land to few, people living in cities and eating their controlled diets.

the abortionist I talked with knew all about this, they see humans as useless eaters that need to be controlled and their stated goal is world depopulation. Go read on Bill Gates, he is very open about it.

if they were really for rights of animals and health of people they would be pushing farmer's markets (which avoid pesticides instead of pounding the land with more that ever used before), community autonomy, and people growing victory gardens, they would be for diversifying our foods, our seeds, stopping the destruction of the bees, and humane treatment of animals raised for slaughter -- which would be grass-fed, open field, healthy animals.

we are being presented with two bogus systems: a centralized one where animals are penned up, and sick, stuffed with antibiotics and substandard in nutrition or a centralized world of gmo's with no meat.

I would say neither is acceptable or sustainable.

Christians better smarten up. Our ethicists are not on the radar.

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News Item7/29/12 2:33 PM
solutions  Find all comments by solutions
Mike wrote:
There are few monkeys with access to firearms in this area
Missing the point?

"We merged one-time cholesterol measurements on 79,777 subjects enrolled in a health screening project in Varmland, Sweden with subsequent police records for arrests for violent crimes in men and women aged 24-70 at enrollment; and with information on covariates. We performed a nested case control comparison of cholesterol in violent criminals - defined as those with two or more crimes of violence against others - to cholesterol in nonoffenders matched on age, enrollment year, sex, education and alcohol, using variable-ratio matching, with a nonparametric sign test.

RESULTS: One hundred individuals met criteria for criminal violence. Low cholesterol (below the median) was strongly associated with criminal violence in unadjusted analysis (Men: risk ratio 1.94.
Age emerged as a strong confounder. Adjusting for covariates using a matching procedure, violent criminals had significantly lower cholesterol than others identical in age, sex, alcohol indices and education, using a nonparametric sign test.

CONCLUSIONS: Adjusting for other factors, low cholesterol is associated with increased subsequent criminal violence" (University of California)

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News Item7/29/12 2:12 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
solutions wrote:
Don't worry Mike, I am sure that common sense (and science) will not prevail and you can maintain the logistical support for pathological killers handy at the shopping mall.
Perhaps y'all could factor into the early demise of someone the proximity of a gun shop combined with the incidence of criminal insanity in the population, as well as cholesterol levels.
"Community cohort studies and meta-analyses of randomized trials have shown a relation between low or lowered cholesterol and death by violence (homicide, suicide, accident); in primates, cholesterol reduction has been linked to increased behavioral acts of aggression (Kaplan J, Manuck S. The effects of fat and cholesterol on aggressive behaviour in monkeys"
"RESULTS: One hundred individuals met criteria for criminal violence. Low cholesterol (below the median) was strongly associated with criminal violence in unadjusted analysis...."
(Department of Medicine, University of California)
Amazing what one learns on SermonAudio.
Amazing indeed. But I'm not worried, solutions. There are few monkeys with access to firearms in this area. But should this become an issue in your country, do pass laws against cholesterol reduction.
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News Item7/29/12 1:28 PM
solutions  Find all comments by solutions
Mike wrote:
This sounds similar to "solution"s accusation about fighting for the right to shoot people. Makes just about as much sense.
Don't worry Mike, I am sure that common sense (and science) will not prevail and you can maintain the logistical support for pathological killers handy at the shopping mall.

Perhaps y'all could factor into the early demise of someone the proximity of a gun shop combined with the incidence of criminal insanity in the population, as well as cholesterol levels.

"Community cohort studies and meta-analyses of randomized trials have shown a relation between low or lowered cholesterol and death by violence (homicide, suicide, accident); in primates, cholesterol reduction has been linked to increased behavioral acts of aggression (Kaplan J, Manuck S. The effects of fat and cholesterol on aggressive behaviour in monkeys"
"RESULTS: One hundred individuals met criteria for criminal violence. Low cholesterol (below the median) was strongly associated with criminal violence in unadjusted analysis...."
(Department of Medicine, University of California)

Amazing what one learns on SermonAudio.

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News Item7/29/12 11:40 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Dan wrote:
A few weeks ago I was in a Walmart and saw a guy wearing a shirt with some wording on the back. It had:
P .....
E .....
T .....
A .....
As I got closer and could read the '.....', I was delighted to see that it had the exact opposite message from what I expected - which was:
People Eating Tasty Animals
I was compelled to tell him how much I liked that saying on his shirt.
I also like the saying People Eating Tasty Animals. Being a vegetarian is totally nutty. The reason vegetarians are so nutty is they are lacking protein that comes from consuming meat.
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News Item7/29/12 8:34 AM
Dan | Tennessee  Find all comments by Dan
A few weeks ago I was in a Walmart and saw a guy wearing a shirt with some wording on the back. It had:
P .....
E .....
T .....
A .....

As I got closer and could read the '.....', I was delighted to see that it had the exact opposite message from what I expected - which was:
People Eating Tasty Animals

I was compelled to tell him how much I liked that saying on his shirt.

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News Item7/29/12 7:36 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"PETA, on its website, accused Grassley of fighting for Americans' right to be "sick and fat."

This sounds similar to "solution"s accusation about fighting for the right to shoot people. Makes just about as much sense.

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