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Choice News TUESDAY, JUL 10, 2012  |  22 comments
Richard Dawkins Calls Church's Tax-Exempt Status a 'Disgrace'

Renowned atheist Richard Dawkins has called the tax-exempt status given to churches a "disgrace," and has insisted that atheists and the non-religious are just as generous and good as religious people.

"Incidentally, because churches are automatically classified as charities for taxation purposes is a disgrace," Dawkins recently wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post.

"Nobody denies that some churches do charitable work. But that doesn't mean that any organization should automatically qualify for tax-free status simply by calling itself a church. Each church organization separately should make the case that it does charitable work, just as anybody else has to when seeking tax exemption," he added. ...

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News Item7/22/12 4:29 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
it is a disgrace.

why on earth do churches go along with Johnson's plan to bring churches into private bankers (FED) jurisdiction through exemptions, making churches a corporation of the state?

a generation that silenced itself.


News Item7/22/12 2:09 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
Hank Hudson wrote:
Hey Richard, why don't your "atheists and the non-religious" just start their own church and get the benefits.
Stop gripping about things you don't
They just want to persecute Christians.
If he continues, God will take him out of this world.
It can't come soon enough. Dawkins has been a thorn in the side of God's children for too long.

News Item7/16/12 6:16 PM
Say No to the Blue Ulster Cult  Find all comments by Say No to the Blue Ulster Cult
jacob wrote:
no such person as an athiest.The evidence for God overwhelming.Look around!
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

I see atheists all the time. Many of them profess adherence to doctrinal orthodoxy and some are in the Christian ministry. If you think about it for a few minutes you will probably know some of them. But in their willful, persistant, unrepentant sin they show themselves at heart to be athiests.

All our times have come,
Here but now they're gone.
Seasons don't fear the reaper,
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain...
We can be like they are.


News Item7/16/12 4:56 PM
jacob | n.ireland  Find all comments by jacob
no such person as an athiest.The evidence for God overwhelming.Look around!

News Item7/15/12 3:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Hank, you just hit on the problem of "tenure in mortmain" q.v., The Perils of Popery a very lengthy commentary on the history of this problem can be found at, Statues of Mortain. Too many para-church and faux churches are already getting tax breaks. Long running tax exemptions for church properties are not a disgrace but rather a danger to a secular state.

News Item7/15/12 2:08 PM
Hank Hudson | Deerfield Beach, Florida  Protected NameFind all comments by Hank Hudson
Hey Richard, why don't your "atheists and the non-religious" just start their own church and get the benefits.
Stop gripping about things you don't

News Item7/13/12 9:11 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
susan powers wrote:
Our Lord paid HIS taxes.. we are to be conformed to his image..lest we be found obeying another head than our precious Lord Jesus.Sadly this time the natural man has written something the Christian who should see but is blinded sees not.
The Church already pays their taxes before they meet. Why should they be taxed again because they meet?

News Item7/13/12 7:36 AM
susan powers | florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by susan powers
Our Lord paid HIS taxes.. we are to be conformed to his image..lest we be found obeying another head than our precious Lord Jesus.Sadly this time the natural man has written something the Christian who should see but is blinded sees not.

News Item7/11/12 9:59 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
"Richard Dawkins Calls Church's Tax-Exempt Status a 'Disgrace'"

Richard who?


News Item7/11/12 5:44 PM
John W. | Oklahoma  Find all comments by John W.
Jim there is nothing correct about Dawkin's comment. Btw what is a British citizen doing lecturing us about our tax code?

News Item7/11/12 2:28 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Richard Dawkins wrote:
I would hypothesize that the difference in giving between the religion and nonreligious is negligible if you only count donations to pure charity and discount donations to atheist advocacy organizations, or to churches (including tithes) and 'charities' that unscrupulously use their resources to proselytize rather than bestow real charitable benefits,...
from the article, isn't it irritating when an atheist is correct?
Martin Luther wrote:
...God will sanction my good intentions and reward me with everlasting life. For is He not a merciful and generous Father who gives good things even to the unworthy and ungrateful? How much more will He grant unto me everlasting life as a due payment in return for my many good deeds and merits." This is the religion of reason. This is the natural religion of the world.... "There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." ( Rom 3:11 .) Hence, there is really no difference between a Jew, a Mohammedan, and any other old or new heretic. There may be a difference of persons, places, rites, religions, ceremonies, but as far as their fundamental beliefs are concerned they are all alike.

News Item7/11/12 2:20 PM
Noncon  Find all comments by Noncon
BOB wrote:
Yet, the world is quick to jump into the church's business.
That's why we had nonconformists.

With them you need no newfangled mantras of the separation of church and state.


News Item7/11/12 7:31 AM
BOB | USA  Find all comments by BOB
separation of church and state!....separation of church and state!...separation of church and state!!! The world tells the church to stay out of politics and uses the catch phrase above. Yet, the world is quick to jump into the church's business. Yet at the same time when churches began incorporating, etc they willingly put themselves under the rule of the state.

News Item7/11/12 12:41 AM
Don Randolph | Arizona, USA  Find all comments by Don Randolph
Why people listen to a biologist with no formal training in theology or philosophy sing his acrimonious song is beyond me. Just because Dickie's mum spared the rod far more than she should have, we have to listen to his whining against religion. Or maybe it was because they chose someone else to be the altar boy. In any case he seems to be better at playing with the lab rats than making rational arguments.

News Item7/10/12 5:44 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Johnny Foreigner wrote:
He certainly is comic!
Awfully nice of you yanks to accept a lecture from Johnny Foreigner by the way. Thanks eversomuch.
You're welcome. We apparently like being lectured by foreign fools, about things of which they know nothing. But he's an athiest, so there is no limit to how much ignorance we could hear from him.

News Item7/10/12 5:21 PM
perspecs  Find all comments by perspecs
"Renowned atheist Richard Dawkins ...."

Psalm 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Must be very taxing for the poor fools to be under the dominion of sin.


News Item7/10/12 2:18 PM
Johnny Foreigner  Find all comments by Johnny Foreigner
jr obryan wrote:
he is a comic accident.
He certainly is comic!

Awfully nice of you yanks to accept a lecture from Johnny Foreigner by the way. Thanks eversomuch.


News Item7/10/12 2:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
There are even megachurches that don't have tax advantages, though few, because it was their leaders one way or another loosing it for them.

Unless you're in a Muhammadan, Communist, and sometimes it appears a Hindu or Catholic country, a house church is an anathema. Biblical Household Management.

Tax breaks are neither a right nor a gift from God, and they have been severely misused:

R.L. Dabney wrote:
When the Reformation came, the men who could think saw that this tenure in mortmain had been the fatal thing. Knox, the wisest of them, saw clearly that if a religious reformation was to succeed in Scotland the ecclesiastical corporations must be destroyed. They were destroyed, their whole property alienated to the secular nobles or to the State (the remnant which Knox secured for religious education);... When our American commonwealths were founded, statesmen and divines understood...that no corporate tenure in mortmain, either spiritual or secular, is compatible with the liberty of the people and the continuance of constitutional government.
excerpt The Perils of Popery

News Item7/10/12 1:32 PM
Grace  Find all comments by Grace
Is tax exemption a right or a gift from God?

News Item7/10/12 12:15 PM
better way  Find all comments by better way
jpw wrote:
home churches, here we come.
Yipee! Yea, church is finally comin' home! Just like the Duggars. Save on gas, too. Very green. Papa, preach it to us kids in our footed-jammies! Jeffy, upload daddy's sermon to SA once he's done.
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