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MONDAY, JUL 2, 2012  |  29 comments
David Platt Still Addressing Controversy Over 'Sinner's Prayer' Remarks


Pastor David Platt

It was a three-minute video clip that was shared across the evangelical community. In it, Pastor David Platt famously called the "sinner's prayer" "superstitious." A few months later, he still finds himself explaining the heart behind that message.

"I believe we simply need to be as biblical as possible (2 Timothy 2:15). Do I believe it is 'wrong' for someone to pray a 'prayer of salvation'? Certainly not," Platt maintained in a blog post this week.

The 33-year-old pastor, who leads The Church at Brook Hills in Birmingham, Ala., sparked debate earlier this year when he told attendees at the Verge Conference that there is "no such superstitious prayer in the New Testament," referring to the popular "sinner's prayer." ...


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Fear God  Find all comments by Fear God
Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” (2 Timothy 2:14-19 NKJV)
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News Item7/3/12 11:40 PM
Travis Y | Ok  Find all comments by Travis Y
Here is a website that addresses the dangers of the sinners prayer- www.donotask.org
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News Item7/3/12 7:35 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Herod had just killed James, the brother of John with the sword, and now Peter was in prison awaiting the same fate, just as soon as the passover week was finished.

Acts 12:6-8 KJV
6 And when Herod would have brought him forth, the same night Peter was sleeping between two soldiers, bound with two chains: and the keepers before the door kept the prison.
7 And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands.
8 And the angel said unto him, Gird thyself, and bind on thy sandals. And so he did. And he saith unto him, Cast thy garment about thee, and follow me.

Now can anyone really imagine Peter saying to the delivering angel, "Well actually, I CHOOSE to stay here, because later today I am to be put to death, and I would not want to miss that."

Such is the nonsense perpetrated by the arminist people who believe not in irresistible grace, nor in the power of God to save.

Was Peter trying to escape?

Did God initiate and bring about his release?

Did Peter have a choice?

Was Peter willing to be set free?

Yes indeed!

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News Item7/3/12 4:24 AM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
Adam and Eve were created with choice. See Genesis. Satan decieved Eve and Adam joined in. They sinned, and the Bible says the penalty for sin is death. The Law had to be satisfied with the death of Adam (and his descendants - for if Adam had paid the price no one would be around to speak of it)- but God produced a substitute.
The Law was broken, Adam should have died ... where is the choice in that? Where is the choice in sin? All men are born sinful the Bible says. Where is the choice in that? Did God make Adam sin? Satan tempted Eve the Bible says and Adam was at her side in it.
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News Item7/2/12 11:04 PM
Roan | South Africa  Contact via emailFind all comments by Roan
I am saddened by the hurtful and sarcastic tones and undertones I have seen in the comments below this article. It is NOT a good testimony of the Love and Grace received from our Saviour Jesus. Please think before you comment. ;
1 Is it true
2 Is it said in Love
3 it it said through Grace
If you can not answer yes to all three rather refrain from posting your comments.
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News Item7/2/12 6:51 PM
jj33  Protected NameFind all comments by jj33
Phoebe wrote:
It was Satan who removed CHOICE from the scene in the first place.
Good Mormon doctrine!
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News Item7/2/12 6:24 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Maybe we all should take the advise of SBC poster boy, Rick Warren. In his purpose drival life. Just whisper the prayer...... Congratulations. U just one eternity! Now let's get em baptized, and mark another on the dockets..
Ha! Reminds me of the heretical and ecumenical charismatic movement. Utter a few gobbledegook baby words and BROTHER, you've just been baptised with the Spirit and joined THE elite group of Christians!!
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News Item7/2/12 5:52 PM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
Israel could reject God the Father and the Law of Moses.
The Pharisee's rejected the corner stone. Israel rejected Christ as King.
Therefore say the Greeks: Christian's can't resist the Holy Spirit.
The reason we can't resist the Holy Spirit is because we have already made the choice to accept the offer of mercy and forgiveness for our sins. I fear some have forgotten what they are saved from - The LAW. You are saved from The Law, if you are saved from anything at all.
For how could the Spirit be offered to one who had rejected Christ? You have turned everything around.
And why would one who had accepted Christ then resist the Spirit?
From the beginning of the Bible to the End is recorded the choice God offered men and the choices man made are recorded. In an effort to have men in a relationship of co-operation with Him and not as slaves without choice.
It was Satan who removed CHOICE from the scene in the first place. God re-offered choice in the form of Mercy.
If you reject Mercy there is no longer any hope for you, for there is one judgement after this time of Grace offered to all men.
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News Item7/2/12 5:08 PM
Mike | Florida  Find all comments by Mike
Maybe we all should take the advise of SBC poster boy, Rick Warren. In his purpose drival life. Just whisper the prayer...... Congratulations. U just one eternity! Now let's get em baptized, and mark another on the dockets..
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News Item7/2/12 4:21 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
All good calvinists know the Holy Spirit cannot be resisted. People are just confused about what "resist" means.
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News Item7/2/12 3:27 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dwayne wrote:
11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Doesn't it sound like in the passages the you can harden your heart?
That's how I would interpret this.
How bout you?
Dwayne, I quite agree with you. The scripture is very clear that if saving faith is to save, it needs to be maintained until our death. (reference the parable of the sower.) Unbelief is the only thing which guarantees our eternal lostness. But I don't see how your texts deny the "biblical doctrines of free and sovereign grace".
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News Item7/2/12 3:05 PM
Dwayne  Find all comments by Dwayne
11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Doesn't it sound like in the passages the you can harden your heart?
That's how I would interpret this.
How bout you?

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News Item7/2/12 3:03 PM
lost as Kelsey's Goose  Find all comments by lost as Kelsey's Goose
Jim Lincoln wrote:
It deserves repeating.
Today, 9 of 10 pastors are freewill theists most of whom plead with folk to say the sinner's prayer. If you count up their decisions, they number more than human beings who have ever breathed a breath. Reminds one of the alleged medieval pieces of the cross weighing more than a thousand kilos.

Statistically speaking, these freewill theists have saved everyone on the planet just by their crusades, films, tracts, websites, sermons and radio broadcasts. But unlike McDonald's, their 'billions and billions' (of decisions) are bunk. Almost all of their followers are damned.

At least in the middle ages, the vast majority of Christians weren't plummeting into the abyss despite the fact that they might have thought a bit of wood was the true cross and it really wasn't.

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News Item7/2/12 3:00 PM
Dwayne  Find all comments by Dwayne
John Uk
Hebrews 4

1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the sa

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News Item7/2/12 2:49 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
It's amazing! Dwayne says that "I am very happy that I didn't but iv heard many stories where people have resisted the Holy Spirit..."

And currently the Holy Ghost is seeking to teach Dwayne the beautiful "doctrines of grace", yet he resists them with ALL HIS MIGHT!

Astonishing!

But there's the power of arminist for you.

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News Item7/2/12 2:42 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Lurker wrote:
The effectiveness, or lack thereof, of the sinners prayer "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner." (Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved) can't be determined apart from the effectiveness of the gospel preached, which is the power of God unto salvation.
God said the word that went out of His mouth would never return unto Him void but would accomplish His pleasure (Is 55:11).
But since the sinners prayer is typically used by preachers who also teach freewill theism, it's no wonder why the Word preached and the convicting work of the Holy Spirit are left out of the discussion. After all, for the freewill theist, God is passive until the sinner makes a decision to accept or reject His grace and mercy.
It deserves repeating.
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News Item7/2/12 2:35 PM
jj33  Protected NameFind all comments by jj33
I like this video:

http://illbehonest.com/The-Prayer-that-Damns-Many-to-Hell-James-Jennings

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News Item7/2/12 2:35 PM
Dwayne  Find all comments by Dwayne
When I became saved I was being drawn by the Father. But I could have resisted the Holy spirit! I am very happy that I didn't but iv heard many stories where people have resisted the Holy Spirit and have died knowing they will not inherit heaven. Thats what I think about free will. I don't believe I can initiate salvation but I can choose to accept or reject when I am being drawn by the Father.
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News Item7/2/12 1:54 PM
Asa | Az.  Find all comments by Asa
It seems most baptist have become Methodist .
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News Item7/2/12 12:30 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
angelic authors wrote:
The LBCF/WCF are superior to Holy Scripture as they establish which are the scrolls that, when collected together, comprise the Bible. Without faith in the LBCF/WCF and their divine authors, how can you even be saved?
I know you are joking, and even some LBCF/WCF types will just giggle at your response as well. However, look at their synod notes(example RCUS), when they draw conclusions based on a combination of past & present understandings of Reformed Creeds. With some bizarre mental gymnastics, their current conclusions can conflict with the Scriptures they claim to represent. Then they will sanctify their ruling by claiming to be 'guardians of orthodoxy' even when their conclusions conflict with another Synod they also agree to be guardians of orthodoxy...all under the shadow of a babylonian/assyrian xmas tree decked in silver & gold.

While I have been Blessed using these as a reference, its clear that they have been misused.

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