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FRONT PAGE  |  8/30/2015
SATURDAY, JUN 9, 2012  |  17 comments
Denmark Forces Lutheran Church to Allow Same-Sex Marriages
In a move that could foreshadow what’s ahead for America, Denmark’s Parliament on Thursday voted to approve a bill that makes same-sex marriage legal in Lutheran church ceremonies, essentially forcing the church to perform gay marriages.

Until now, same-sex couples could only get short blessing ceremonies in the state’s Lutheran Church, according to the Associated Press. The law passed by an 85-24 vote and is effective June 15.

The only saving grace, if you can even call it that, is that individual pastors in the state will not be forced to perform the actual ceremonies. ...


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News Item6/11/12 10:29 PM
OP | wisconsin  Find all comments by OP
To the commentator Mike from New York. Yes, I do believe there should be no separation of church and state. I will make myself clearer. There should be Christianity incorporated into politics. This is what God wants, I believe.
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News Item6/11/12 6:53 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jesuits around every corner wrote:
secular Masonic Jesuit Republic since a papist preached inside the hallowed walls of Congress.
I hope you're just making a joke using Jim's reasoning. On this site, I can never be sure.
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News Item6/11/12 6:51 PM
Jesuits around every corner  Find all comments by Jesuits around every corner
secular Masonic Jesuit Republic since a papist preached inside the hallowed walls of Congress.
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News Item6/11/12 6:36 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim Lincoln wrote:
..it was really founded as secular Masonic Republic.
How strange, even perverse, that you link to a source you don't agree with, then make an unsubstantiated, kooky assertion like that.

I don't believe we're a Christian nation either, but for the simple reason that only individuals can be Christians (or Freemasons for that matter). Nonetheless, our early leaders had no problem with public worship in public venues, whether we approve of it or not.

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News Item6/11/12 2:48 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
For a moment there, Neil, you had me worried! A slanted article from the Ankerberg site, Was America Founded as a Christian Nation?. In spite of what Drs. Ankerberg, Weldon, and the Supreme Court said, it was really founded as secular Masonic Republic. --But-- one can never overlook that only a tiny fraction of the population itself would consider itself non-Christian and even a smaller fraction anti-Christian.
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News Item6/11/12 2:07 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
What they didn't tell us in US History classes: Sunday worship services were held regularly in the Capitol building during the early years, with Jefferson often in attendance. Preachers from various denominations officiated, including a papist in 1826.

This is not Theonomist propaganda, but straight from the Library of Congress [see Part 2 re church services]

I am not citing this because I necessarily approve of the practice.

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News Item6/11/12 11:21 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
OP wrote:
There was a comment that it is great that the US keep separation of Church and State. In my opinion, it is not great at all. We, as Christians, have an obligation to get involved with political issues that involve abortion, homosexual, racism, greed--to name a few. This is a matter of life and death! Christians should always have a voice in these issues. As far as Gil Right and Thomas Jefferson is concerned, these are just people with an opinion that I feel is flawed.
Jefferson's opinion was flawed? So you must think there should be a government preferred and established religion. Interesting.
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News Item6/11/12 10:08 AM
OP | wisconsin  Find all comments by OP
There was a comment that it is great that the US keep separation of Church and State. In my opinion, it is not great at all. We, as Christians, have an obligation to get involved with political issues that involve abortion, homosexual, racism, greed--to name a few. This is a matter of life and death! Christians should always have a voice in these issues. As far as Gil Right and Thomas Jefferson is concerned, these are just people with an opinion that I feel is flawed.
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News Item6/11/12 10:00 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Bush was no friend to biblical teaching.

He changed america's philisophical approach to war to justify his preemptively decided adventures.

He came up with preemptive war which is diametrically opposed to the just war theory. (historical church teaching)

The American church compromised her theology and her witness by accomodating what she thought was a fellow Christian or ally.

just war theory is diametrically opposed to christian zionism.

the outcomes of unjust war is massive suffering, as well as fleeing and persecution of Christians.

The darwinists take what they do not have. If the worldy man cannot get something ethically, he will take it by whatever means he can. This is the anthropology of man.

The church is basically just going along for the ride, and keeps the footage from her eyes, so won't have to see the Christians fleeing their nations and her people conscribed to fight with AQ. And mature Christians like Russ are left only with Pilate's postmodern question, "what is truth?" (answer-whoever writes the history books)

The shame of an empire.

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News Item6/11/12 8:07 AM
Russ | Texas  Find all comments by Russ
"Fat Cat: What makes a war legitimate?"

Those who write the history books.

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News Item6/10/12 7:56 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
Canada has a Socialist form of government not a Republic form of government like the United States has. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution states that there shall be Freedom of Religion in the United States and that the United States government can't interfere in the affairs of the church. If Romney is elected president and then from then on Republican presidents are just elected then the Constitution will be upheld.
But John, Democrats can't read, and Republicans are fraidy-cats. Who's going to uphold the Constitution?

Fat Cat: What makes a war legitimate?

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News Item6/10/12 6:58 PM
Fat Cat  Find all comments by Fat Cat
God is in no party in America. When a people have lost their moral bearing, the constitution will not work. There is not future in the Republican party; they are the same as the Democrates; that is why nothing gets accomplished. Or what does get accomplished is completely unconstitutional, encluding all the iligitimate wars.
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News Item6/10/12 2:50 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Fat Cat wrote:
Do not trust the people who are in power to inforce the constitution on freedom of religion. The time is coming and is here now where anything that the church might say will be considered hate speech. Just look at Canada!
Canada has a Socialist form of government not a Republic form of government like the United States has. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution states that there shall be Freedom of Religion in the United States and that the United States government can't interfere in the affairs of the church. If Romney is elected president and then from then on Republican presidents are just elected then the Constitution will be upheld.
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News Item6/9/12 7:33 PM
Fat Cat  Find all comments by Fat Cat
Do not trust the people who are in power to inforce the constitution on freedom of religion. The time is coming and is here now where anything that the church might say will be considered hate speech. Just look at Canada!
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News Item6/9/12 3:23 PM
Pagre  Find all comments by Pagre
"The Danish parliament, Folketinget, is the supreme legislative authority for the church. As of 1 April 2012 (2012 -04-01)[update], 79.6%[5] of the population of Denmark are members of the National Church." (Wiki)

"Female clergy had been discussed within the church since the 1920s and was allowed in 1948, in spite of rather strong resistance from the clergy. The then Minister of Ecclesiastical Affairs was contacted by a parochial council who wished to employ a female priest. He decided there was no legal obstacle to that.[15] The first female bishop was instituted in 1995. Today two thirds of theology students are women, and the clergy is expected to have a female majority in near future." (Wiki)

Clearly the church of Denmark has been Liberal - and not Christian - for a longtime now!

So the doctrine of ditching the Bible to validate the lust is no surprise.

Other european churches like the Anglican/CofE and CofS are not far behind in their abominations.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

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News Item6/9/12 2:59 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Isn't great that the U.S. keeps Church and State separate! It is said this is one reason it is said, that the churches are still vigorous in the U.S. Thomas Jefferson's Reply to Danbury Baptist Association has put a beneficial wall between Church and State.
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Yes, it is a good thing to keep government from establishing a national religion, and from interfering with religious freedom. Jefferson was right.
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News Item6/9/12 2:35 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Isn't great that the U.S. keeps Church and State separate! It is said this is one reason it is said, that the churches are still vigorous in the U.S. Thomas Jefferson's Reply to Danbury Baptist Association has put a beneficial wall between Church and State.
Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
The concept of the Kingdom is widespread in both the Old & New Testaments of the Bible. The Bible does not say we are in the Kingdom. The Bible does not say the Church is to build the Kingdom. The Bible does not say the Church is the Kingdom.

Confusion is growing concerning what the Church is, what is its responsibility to society, and what the Bible teaches about building the Kingdom.

part of the summary for the sermon, How the Church Relates to the Kingdom

Only the physical presence of Christ will join Church and State.

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