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FRONT PAGE  |  7/5/2015
WEDNESDAY, MAY 9, 2012  |  11 comments  |  1 commentary
Judge Suggests Stripping 10 Commandments Down to 6 to Remove ‘Religious’ Elements

U.S. District Court Judge Michael F. Urbanski with the U.S. District Court in Roanoke ordered the Giles County School Board and the unnamed student and parent into mediation to see if a compromise can be reached over the display of the biblical texts.

The Liberty Counsel, which is representing the Giles County School Board, and the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia, which is representing the unidentified student and parents, will meet with a magistrate judge during the mediation period. If no decision is made during mediation, the case will return to court.

Matt Staver, founder of the Liberty Counsel, said Urbanski indicated a compromise could be made where the first four Ten Commandments were left off the display. While the first four commandments contain religious references, the final six include prohibitions against murder, adultery, lying and theft. ...


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News Item5/10/12 4:13 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
No one can take away any part of the "religious elements" from the Ten Commandments. As they were given by God.

America was started using the Bible and God's laws, not man's. They just need to be followed much better.

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News Item5/10/12 3:46 PM
keep the Commandments  Find all comments by keep the Commandments
Jim Lincoln.

"The controversy that has turned on the question as to whether or not, in the Christian dispensation, the Sabbath is the first day of the week or the seventh, and as to whether we can be said to observe the fourth commandment when we substitute the first day of the week for the seventh, has too often been allowed to obscure the central principle, namely, that every recurring seventh day was by divine ordination distinguished from every other day. The difficulty that may be encountered in determining which day of the week is the Sabbath should never be used as a subterfuge to escape from the central and straightforward import of the commandment, that every recurring seventh day is specifically holy to God. At the cost of repetitiousness, may we say, that the principle should never be perplexed or prejudices by the further question: which day in the succession of days should be accorded that distinction? We may not minimize the importance of this latter question. But we must not allow the difficulties that may attend this question to unsettle what is antecedent and even more central, the obligation, so far as the fourth commandment is concerned, to recognize the divine distinctiveness of every recurring seventh day" (John Murray)

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News Item5/10/12 2:37 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
keep the commandments, well I see that you must observe Saturday as sabbath, since that is the only day that is considered the sabbath in the Bible. A Christian has to realize what The Purpose of the Law is.

Galatians 3
22 But the Scripture has shut up all men under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed.
24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith.
25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.---NASB

Word Play, Can my ex-husband have our marriage annulled without me having to do anything? Ted Kennedy's annulment certainly was an obscenity.

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News Item5/9/12 5:05 PM
word play  Find all comments by word play
7th gone wrote:
It would be almost impossible for Christian to die in the sin of adultery these days. A few divorce gavels and a quickie prayer break the chains that bind you to all your previous Christian marriages and absolve you from your current adulterous marriage.
Roman Catholic divorce is called "annullment"

A simple little game with letters and words can achieve exactly the same end result but apparently makes you "more holier than thou" whilst you worship graven images.

The doctrine of popish hypocrisy.

What the judge in this article has suggested is normal practice in the Roman Catholic religious hypocrisy daily!

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News Item5/9/12 4:52 PM
7th gone  Find all comments by 7th gone
It would be almost impossible for Christian to die in the sin of adultery these days. A few cheap divorce gavels and a quickie prayer break the paper chains that bind you to all your previous Christian marriages and absolve you from your current adulterous marriage.
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News Item5/9/12 4:39 PM
keep the Commandments  Find all comments by keep the Commandments
"Finally, the reason assigned for this Lordship over the Sabbath is the fact that the Sabbath was made for man. It was for the sake of man that Jesus came into the world, it was for man’s sake that He died and rose again, it is for man’s sake that He is exalted as the Messiah to supreme mediatorial sovereignty. But it was also for man’s sake that the Sabbath was made. If then, it was for man’s sake that Jesus came, and suffered, and died, and rose again to ascend up where He was before, is it possible that that which was made for man — the Sabbath — should be annulled and abrogated by that which He became and did for man’s sake? There is complete congruity between His Messianic work and Lordship on the one hand and the Sabbath ordinance on the other. They both serve the same purpose. And so His Lordship embraces the Sabbath institution, embraces it too for the purpose of preserving it, confirming it and blessing it. He is Lord of the Sabbath too. (J.Murray)The 4th Commandment

Keep ALL God's Commandments including the 4th which nowhere in the Word or Law of God is annulled. GOD nor Christ has annulled the Sabbath. Obey the Lord!

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News Item5/9/12 3:10 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The Sabbath belongs to God wrote:
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REAL Christians know that all of the counsel of God is as applicable today as it was when the Commandments were written.
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Except for the part where someone decided the 7th day should be on the 1st day. (not that there's a problem with keeping one day over another, or another day over the one, since the Lord is Lord even of the sabbath day, meaning all days are his, even the sabbath)
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News Item5/9/12 3:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I suggest that you listen to Legalism is Shadow, Christ is Substance The summary for which is:
Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
Nowhere in the Old Testament is there any word that the Gentile nations ought to observe the sabbath , or keep the law. It was for the nation Israel. People come presenting supposed truth that will help us be more godly and will stem the tide of decadence around us. These are subtle forms to corrupt the sufficiency of Christ and His work accomplished in our lives.
If you think you can keep every bit of the law, remember the sabbath is Saturday --not Sunday!--even the early Christians observed the Sabbath, as good Jews. But we aren't Jews. Christ was famous for not only saying but in action pointing out--

Mark 2
27 And He was saying to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.
28 "Consequently, the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."
3:1-5...
6 And the Pharisees went out and immediately began taking counsel with the Herodians against Him, as to how they might destroy Him.---NASB

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News Item5/9/12 2:25 PM
The Sabbath belongs to God  Find all comments by The Sabbath belongs to God
Jim Lincoln wrote:
While only nine of the 10 Commandments apply to the Christian
That is a lie Jim Lincoln!

This is the kind of deletions from Scripture which brought us the Liberals and the Roman Catholics.

REAL Christians know that all of the counsel of God is as applicable today as it was when the Commandments were written.

As Jesus Himself points out; Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Sermon on SA... ]Why keep a Christian Sabbath today

"I feel it imperatively necessary to say something on this point. There is no part of the Sabbath question about which there are so many ridiculous misstatements put forward. Many are raising a cry in the present day, as if we were inflicting a positive injury on them in calling on them to keep the Sabbath holy. They talk as if the observance of the day were a heavy yoke, like circumcision and the washings and purifications of the ceremonial law.
But the Sabbath is God's merciful appointment for the common benefit of all mankind It was "made for man" (Mark 2:27)." J.C.Ryle
http://www.fpcr.org/blue_banner_articles/ryle_sabbath.htm#BM2__THE_PURPOSE_OF_THE_SABBATH

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News Item5/9/12 2:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
While only nine of the 10 Commandments apply to the Christian, the one on the Sabbath doesn't, q.v.,Legalism is Shadow, Christ is Substance, if one is going to honor the Judeo-Christian heritage in the country, you really should have all 10 listed.
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News Item5/9/12 12:48 AM
Don Randolph | Arizona, USA  Find all comments by Don Randolph
Leave off the first four? Better yet, leave off the last nine. What a sick society we live in these days.
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