Liberal Pastor Jim Wallis: America Is ‘Not a Christian Nation — It‘s Never Been a Christian Nation’
Jim Wallis
Pastor Jim Wallis’ support for the Occupy Wall Street movement and his leftist inclinations are widely documented. The progressive pastor, who has served as a faith adviser to President Barack Obama, is no stranger to controversy. In an interview that will air nationwide at Lifetree Café locations in the coming days, Wallis made some startling statements about America’s history and heritage.
“It’s not a Christian nation. It’s never been a Christian nation,” Wallis boldly proclaimed while speaking about America. “We set this up so that it would not be a Christian nation for any religious framework.”
But Wallis wasn’t done there. In a preview clip, he goes on to claim that America isn’t mentioned in the Bible as having a “special” or unique place....
If America, UK or any other piece of real estate was quote, "Christian" - then everybody within would be saved.
Thus just as this world is not, never has been, nor ever will be "Christian" - NO nation is Christian.
God never established this position in any Nation and only HE can make anyone or any group Christian.
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Salmon P. Chase, Secretary of the Treasury: Dear Sir: No nation can be strong except in the strength of God, or safe except in His defense. The trust of our people in God should be declared on our national coins....You will cause a device to be prepared without unnecessary delay with a motto expressing in the fewest and tersest words possible this national recognition.
Mike of NY, hopefully I was disparaging enough about this fellow's religious credentials--which are nonexistent as far as I'm concerned.
The argument about the Church of England and the Romish church I found interesting, it did remind me that even Ireland may have started off as a Christian country, Patrick (214-228) until the Romish church got its grubby hands on the country.
Non sequitur wrote: If you're talking about the basket case known as the Church of England led by the reigning monarch, you're correct. Whereas, if you mean the the Church whose focus is Rome and keys are Peter's, you stand corrected.
Correction declined. You are being anachronistic.
There was no UK in the days of pre-reformation papal tyranny. And regarding that tyranny it was more the case that the countries of the isles were vassal states of a foreign religio-political potentate. None of this has anything to do with the church as Popery was and is of the very essence of antichrist.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Dominic, we get another example of an argumentum ad hominem. Just because this fellow is a liberal, doesn't mean what he says is wrong especially about history, for that matter, he is not an expert in that either. ---
True, but if a liberal says the sun rises in the morning, I would be suspicious of his motive for saying it. This one is "faith adviser" to the president, so we might have to question, in light of Mr. Obama's anti-Christian decrees, what kind of advice Mr. Wallis has been giving him.
Dominic, we get another example of an argumentum ad hominem. Just because this fellow is a liberal, doesn't mean what he says is wrong especially about history, for that matter, he is not an expert in that either. It is obvious that the United States has had a strong Christian influence, but to say it was or is a Christian nation is really stretching the point. Even the majority of people on the Mayflower weren't Puritans/Pilgrims. The government itself was set up by the founding fathers, many or most who were not Christian and wanted a secular state (Thank God!) They had too many obnoxious examples of state churches both in the colonies and in Europe.
The US has been strongly flavored with Christian influence. But, I would even call it Christian, and I strongly disapprove of any attempt to establish a Theonomy.
'In GOD we trust' is proof that this nation was and still is a Christian nation. As a African American, slavery is part of our history but so is same sex marriage and legalized abortion which is SHAMEFUL. BUT--still this a Christian nation. Wallis is just a false prophet. Anyone dealing with the Obama adm is showing how his heart really is. What this man says, a person should take with a grain of salt.
If you're talking about the basket case known as the Church of England led by the reigning monarch, you're correct. Whereas, if you mean the the Church whose focus is Rome and keys are Peter's, you stand corrected.
Foster wrote: There is no national church in the UK nor has there ever been. The UK therefore cannot be said to foster a particular religion.
America has had a foundation Christian heritage there are sermons on this site professor Archie p jones talks about places such as Harvard that taught Hebrew, Greek and Latin and if you were fluent in these biblical languages you could not get in. There is so much ground for America being a Christian nation and people like George Whitfield Jim wallis I would not class as a Christian
The only Bible that mentions America is the Mormon Bible. It states that upon Jesus' return, he'll rule from Independence, Missouri.
If the US was a Christian nation it was only because some of the Founding Fathers ("call no man father" -- by the way) were true to the Bible. But the founding documents were designed to not foster a particular religion. Otherwise we would have been the UK déjà vu.
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Will Senn | 3/18/2013
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and the Romish church 
barry from ky from northern ky: "hey mike, i don't think i would ever have a..."
