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FRONT PAGE  |  7/28/2016
SUNDAY, FEB 26, 2012  |  25 comments
Is Raw Milk Dangerous?

A new government study warns that “outbreaks” blamed on raw milk were “150 times greater” than outbreaks attributed to pasteurized milk, citing statistics from a 13-year period ending in 2006.

But a foundation that runs education programs on science, diet and health says the results were skewed because of the way federal report authors “cherry picked” data.

Sally Fallon Morell, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation, said the new government study listed an average of 315 illnesses a year “from all dairy products for which the pasteurization status was known.”

“Of those, there was an average of 112 illnesses each year attributed to all raw dairy products and 203 associated with pasteurized dairy products,” she said. ...


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News Item9/29/13 9:15 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Jim, I'm trying out the tiny url, we'll see if this is right...

Fox News Article

http://tinyurl.com/n87vjww

the researchers---the lactobacteria found inside the bee is being used for their health --- notice they call it medicine and that it boosts their immune system.

"Pesticides, parasites, stress and poor nutrition are believed to be some of the factors causing a deterioration of the immune systems of bees around the world, making them more susceptible to disease."

so those lactobacteria are what preserves raw milk into yogurt among many other foods. it replenishes the body -- since people now are needing fecal transplants, I don't know, perhaps some properly made food, made at home is just the ticket??

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News Item9/29/13 4:07 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike of N.Y., I drink a lot of milk, especially in my coffee, I probably have more of it than a lot of people. I haven't seen a message yet, from a friend whose influenced by Seventh-day Adventism, especially on their vegetarian ideas about foods, but one would probably be anti-Biblical, if one attacked drinking milk, especially goat's milk.

I think cow's milk is fine Moooo...re milk means better health. Now, I'm perfectly happy with pasteurized milk, which I don't believe the article touches on, but it does touch on lactose intolerance. Anyway, apparently cow's milk is Kosher too, not a really big item of importance to me, because I like pork and shrimp too.

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News Item9/29/13 9:09 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
I drink milk every day in my cereal. No harmful effects so far.
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News Item9/29/13 8:33 AM
picturethis  Find all comments by picturethis
John UK wrote:
Yes indeed, unless the Lord calls you to an open-air preaching ministry in North Korea.
Until the Lord's work is done in me then what to fear.

A raw organic grass fed Cow's milk not so far from you, so no need to go without what God has provided
Caerfai Farm
St Davids,
Pembrokeshire
SA62 6QT

Description Raw organic milk - Meuse rhine issel cows - grass fed
Email chrisevans69@hotmail.com
Phone 01437 720548
Website www.caerfai.co.uk

A sermon which I am about to hear might be of interest, just caught my eye:

Common Core and police state tactics in wales

Time for a rest

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News Item9/29/13 8:24 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
picturethis wrote:
Or live longer than you despite your own diet
Yes indeed, unless the Lord calls you to an open-air preaching ministry in North Korea.
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News Item9/29/13 8:02 AM
picturethis  Find all comments by picturethis
John UK wrote:
You are free in Christ to do exactly as you wish, so don't take any notice of me, lest you live longer than you thought or expected.
Or live longer than you despite your own diet
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News Item9/29/13 7:49 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
picturethis wrote:
Yes scripture is my guide, so I just need a field for some goats and not the influence of the state or man's legislation for my pure milk. And a pail And milking stool
To drink biblical raw goat's milk, you first need to find some biblical goats. And you will find it difficult in this modern age. Man is tampering with nature and it will affect adversely all of mankind. The massive increase in illnesses can be partly put down to the diet people are eating. The beefburger you buy out of a van is not the same sort of beefbuger the Israelites ate. And nor is the milk. Genetically modified cows? Of course, and then we have GM people, GM pastors, GM religion.

But hey, you eat and drink all that you want. Smoke a cigarette, drink a tot, have your fish and chips in a newspaper, eat your greasy salty cheese on salty bread made from refined flour with all the goodness taken out. You are free in Christ to do exactly as you wish, so don't take any notice of me, lest you live longer than you thought or expected.

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News Item9/29/13 7:34 AM
picturethis  Find all comments by picturethis
John UK wrote:
Your scriptural examples are fine,
Proverbs 27:26, 27

The lambs are for thy clothing, and the goats are the price of the field.
And thou shalt have goats' milk enough for thy food, for the food of thy household...

Yes scripture is my guide, so I just need a field for some goats and not the influence of the state or man's legislation for my pure milk. And a pail And milking stool

Drinking Raw Milk and the Regulated State

'Arrested By The Cow Police'

Above you will see that farmers have always provided unpasteurised milk and the health benefits are proven, then after untold centuries the state police step in and US Christian professing farmers lose their business.

The manmade destruction of God ordained food is across the board from the water we drink to the shiny apple.

In a hospital ward according to the NHS it is smokers and alcoholic destroyed bodies that take up the majority of beds

A wife of a Pastor on SermonAudio states she improved her health by drinking unpasteurised Goat's milk. I am not going to argue as of course it is thoroughly scriptural

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News Item9/29/13 7:08 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
picturethis wrote:
So no milk in my tea
That's up to you, but it won't do you any good.

Your scriptural examples are fine, so I guess you could argue the same thing for alcoholic wine, so long as you don't drink to excess.

Paul reckoned that newborn spiritual babes needed the spiritual equivalent of milk, but the whole idea of that was to grow naturally, and eventually give up the milk for solid food. The parallel is exact. Animals understand this, and give up the weaning milk after so long.

If you look at the fishfarming going on, you'll see that the natural order (designed by God) is undermined, because it takes too long for the fish to grow naturally, and so they forcefeed the fish and make them grow quickly. Ever tasted one of them?

Same thing applies to a lot of the foods being grown in the world today. They are rubbish, junk, dangerous, sickening, sterilising.

If you don't believe me, just spend a day beside any hospital car park and observe the vast numbers of people going in and out.

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News Item9/29/13 6:43 AM
picturethis  Find all comments by picturethis
John UK wrote:
picture this
Ah, you are one of those humans who think we ought to drink it all life long. That's fine, I won't stop you. But consider what Paul said about milk.
So no milk in my tea

1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

Can't be speaking about Goats or cows milk as speaking about a mother's breast milk-newborn babes of course

1 Corinthians 9:7
Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?

As my previous post, does the above speak of drinking milk or eating products derived from the milk of the flock.

It does appear that shepherds and herdsmen had ready to cook meals and beverages...meat and milk. Leather and wool for sandals and clothes etc,

So methinks God provided both for human consumption, or why did the OT saints have such an occupation?

If cheese is acceptable for adult humans to eat why not milk to drink?

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News Item9/29/13 6:21 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
picture this
Ah, you are one of those humans who think we ought to drink it all life long. That's fine, I won't stop you. But consider what Paul said about milk.
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News Item9/29/13 6:06 AM
picturethis  Find all comments by picturethis
John UK wrote:
Some humans think they ought to drink it all life long.
Genesis 18: 8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

Maybe it wasn't milk to drink, but it was set before the Lord? Maybe 'cream' like butter with the meat?

'As a food it ranked next in importance to bread (Ecclesiasticus 39:26). Israel is frequently described as a land "flowing with milk and honey" (Ex 3:8,17; Nu 13:27; Dt 6:3; Josh 5:6; Jer 11:5; Ezek 20:6,15). Milk was among the first things set before the weary traveler (Gen 18:8). In fact, it was considered a luxury (Jdg 5:25; Song 5:1). The people used the milk of kine and also that of sheep (Dt 32:14), and especially that of goats (Prov 27:27). It was received in pails ('atinim, Job 21:24), and kept in leather bottles (no'dh, Jdg 4:19), where it turned sour quickly in the warm climate of Israel before being poured out thickly like a melting substance (nathakh; compare Job 10:10). Cheese of various kinds was made from it (gebhinah and charitse he-chalabh, literally, "cuts of milk"); or the curds (chem'ah) were eaten with bread, and possibly also made into butter by churning (Prov 30:33).

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News Item9/29/13 5:28 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Baby cows do quite well on raw cow milk; funny that. Some humans think God designed it for them.

p.s. at some point in their life, the growing cow stops drinking milk; funny that. Some humans think they ought to drink it all life long.

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News Item9/28/13 9:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
jpw, couldn't figure out what you meant, but drink Moooo...re milk means better health
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News Item2/28/12 9:35 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
proving once again an agenda that has nothing to do with science or health. and there are some that still believe this bologna.
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News Item2/28/12 2:26 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Oh, it might have San Jose John, it just wasn't fast enough. Besides it could just as well been fermented milk anyway. There's more than one way to make milk safe, and it might even be more fun yogurt. fermented milk products.
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News Item2/27/12 12:12 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Raw milk didn't seem to hurt Sisera, so Jael had to use a tent peg to finish the job!
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News Item2/26/12 7:19 PM
IRMD  Find all comments by IRMD
Peter Doyne wrote:
Government studies should send off red flags.
No more than anyone else's study. Even Peter Doyne has his own bias.
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News Item2/26/12 6:06 PM
Peter Doyne | Ontario, Canada  Find all comments by Peter Doyne
Government studies should send off red flags. Does one really think their outcomes are going to be free from biases or perhaps the Dairy Board will make sure they help the government arrive at the answer which suits a certain lobby?
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News Item2/26/12 4:35 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
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