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SATURDAY, JAN 28, 2012  |  17 comments
Truth detector

Lila Rose walked into the Santa Monica Planned Parenthood, heart hammering. She was wearing flip-flops and an old T-shirt. A camcorder was buried inside her purse.

Stepping out of the elevator, she saw six women sitting in the reception area, waiting for their appointments—waiting to extinguish a life. Lila stared at their faces, weight pressing on her heart—these women carried two lives. Soon, that second life would be gone.

The green wall behind them featured an elegant mural with the word Esperanza (meaning "hope") flourished across it. Rose thought, "This must be the most hopeless place in Santa Monica." ...


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News Item1/31/12 10:56 AM
phylly  Find all comments by phylly
Prolife,

The decline in society can be blamed on the lack of biblical truth being taught and proclaimed both in the church and in the home. God is no longer feared and revered, the Bible collects dust in homes across the land, thus, we have a famine. A famine of truth, leading to every man doing what is right in his own eyes. This young woman is misguided in her attempt to do a good work {BTW, all our works are like filthy rags}. If we proclaim the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, then and only then would we see change.

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News Item1/30/12 5:03 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
ProLife wrote:
What are the primary causes..
What was the primary cause of God burning to death men, women and children and babies, in Sodom, Gomorra, and the cities of the plain?

And please don't say the cinema.

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News Item1/30/12 4:03 PM
ProLife  Find all comments by ProLife
What are the primary causes of the significant spike in sexual immorality over the past half-century? Aren't they the following (not necessarily in this order)?
1. Selfishness.
2. No-fault divorce.
3. Pornography/Internet/Smart Phones.
4. Cable, movies, DVDs, music.
5. Contraception/Abortion/Sterilization.
6. Antibiotics/Vaccinations.

Although the Amish have 1., they don't have 2. - 6., and they're not suffering the same spike in sexual immorality. Perhaps 2. - 6. have been to our detriment.

phylly wrote:
it isn't being pregnant that is sinful, it is rampant sexual immorality that leads to unwanted pregnancy, as well as selfishness. Sin is the root cause behind murdering unborn children
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News Item1/30/12 3:37 PM
phylly  Find all comments by phylly
Prolife

You do not get it, it isn't being pregnant that is sinful, it is rampant sexual immorality that leads to unwanted pregnancy, as well as selfishness. Sin is the root cause behind murdering unborn children, not planned parenthood.

If you would actually read what I have stated, you would quit asking the same questions repeatedly -'As clinical abortion morphs before us, what else do you recommend the Roman Catholic Church do to end the U.S. abortion holocaust?'

This has already been addressed and will not be addressed again until you actually read previous responses.

We don't change society by force, we who belong to Christ use the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

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News Item1/30/12 3:09 PM
ProLife  Find all comments by ProLife
"They are powerless to stop abortion because" because they don't have a rifle, cannon or tank. It took folks with big guns to end slavery. It took folks with bigger guns to end the Nazi holocaust. Will it take even bigger guns to end abortion? Prayerfully not.

Perhaps even more and more powerful contraceptives and even more personal private abortifacients so this can be done at home instead of those Planned Parenthood clinics. If OBs give pregnant women more of these wee tiny little "guns" and each one shoots her unborn child at home, this doesn't end the holocaust, it merely distributes it completely out of the public eye.

As the Sun soon sets on clinical abortion and rises on abortifacients etc., what else do you recommend the Roman Catholic Church do to end this U.S. holocaust?

phylly wrote:
Prolife,
What more can the Roman Catholic church do? First of all, repent of their false teachings, of their homosexual behavior, of their greed, and so on and so forth.
They are powerless to stop abortion because they do not adhere to the word of God as the sole source of authority and power. They do not know the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they preach salvation by works, i.e., infant baptism, the
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News Item1/30/12 2:49 PM
phylly  Find all comments by phylly
Prolife,

What more can the Roman Catholic church do? First of all, repent of their false teachings, of their homosexual behavior, of their greed, and so on and so forth.

They are powerless to stop abortion because they do not adhere to the word of God as the sole source of authority and power. They do not know the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they preach salvation by works, i.e., infant baptism, the sacraments, etc. The Bible teaches Christ crucified and sinners saved solely by grace {read Ephesians chapter two}.

You cannot go undercover and spy out these clinics and expect to end abortion, there has to be a demand for clinics such as this, and there is; sexual immorality is the root cause, not abortion mills; to change society starts by proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ, one person at a time, and praying for sinners.

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News Item1/30/12 2:11 PM
Dan | Tennessee  Find all comments by Dan
Michael Hranek wrote:
maddpackman
What will it profit Lila Rose if she gains the whole world, in this case ended the evil of abortion and forfeits her soul buying into the:
Idolatrous (a sin of those who hate God)
Blasphemous (substituting the Queen of Heaven for Christ, and don't forget according to CCC 841 Catholics and Muslims adore the same god)
Lying (Substituting Tradition for the Bible, Promising Catholics an imaginary purgatory and the myth of baptismal regeneration in sprinkling babies)
Murderous (the religion guilty of slaughtering untold numbers of non-Catholics, especially genuine born again believers and Jews in the inquistion and other persecutions)
And more
False Religion of Roman Catholicism
BTW IMHO when genuine born again Christians wake up to the reality that sincere Catholic people like Lila Rose are on their way into the eternal punishment of hell, not because they had a good cause but rejected the Lord Jesus Christ and the Salvation He purchased with His blood on Cross, and have such love for them we cannot bear to see them perish, we will be so much better prepared to hate abortion too.
Good reply, Michael. Some are missing a key point you've made about rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ. Kind of important!!
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News Item1/30/12 12:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
ProLife wrote:
If you're an independent Baptist pastor who lives adjacent to Auschwitz and know what's really going on inside those iron gates (2.5 million gassed), would you?
(a.) Preach the Gospel from the pulpit every Sunday.
(b.) Hold a prayer march across from the front gate.
(c.) Convene an annual march on the capital with 100,000s of protesters.
(d.) Find creative ways to pluck a few souls from the truck before passing trough the front gate.
(e.) Under the cover of darkness with your board of deacons, pick up some sticks, whack a few guards in the shin (while they're not looking), hoping you can dart inside and rescue 1,000s of (primarily) Jews dying there.
None of the above.

You'll find the answer in the New Testament. Get reading.

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News Item1/30/12 12:08 PM
ProLife  Find all comments by ProLife
If you're an independent Baptist pastor who lives adjacent to Auschwitz and know what's really going on inside those iron gates (2.5 million gassed), would you?
(a.) Preach the Gospel from the pulpit every Sunday.
(b.) Hold a weekly prayer service across from the front gate.
(c.) Convene an annual march on the capital with literally 100s of protesters.
(d.) Find creative ways to pluck a few souls from some trucks before they pass under that infamous sign.
(e.) Under the cover of darkness with your board of deacons, pick up some sticks, whack a few guards in the shin (while they're not looking), hoping you can dart inside and rescue 1,000s of non-Baptists dying there.
(f.) Other (e.g., memorize key Bible verses related to imprisonment/slavery/ suffering/crucifixion/salvation, hand out more tracts, fast even more, etc.)

____________

What more should the Roman Catholic Church be doing to end the U.S. holocaust?

phylly wrote:
Prolife,
You point out some statistics "Over these 39 years of legal abortion, and 55 million dead babies, what Christian Church have you witnessed leading the March on Washington and every other facet of the movement? Since one might presume you're a pro-life Christian, perhaps we'll see you next January on the Mall for
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News Item1/30/12 11:52 AM
phylly  Find all comments by phylly
Prolife,

You point out some statistics "Over these 39 years of legal abortion, and 55 million dead babies, what Christian Church have you witnessed leading the March on Washington and every other facet of the movement? Since one might presume you're a pro-life Christian, perhaps we'll see you next January on the Mall for the 40th. Her Church has been a "Truth Detector" for 2,000 years."

I ask, if the Catholic church were doing such a good job protecting the unborn, why are the numbers still so high? I will tell you, it is because the Catholic church does not get right the only true 'cure' for a society gone bad...the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Rose distorts the Bible in defense of her work, pointing to Rahab, the Israelite spies, and of course, the midwives who were dishonest in order to save the Hebrew babies. Yes, God allowed these lies and babies were saved, but now we have something much more effective, and not sinful...we have the Gospel of Christ, and the law that points us to our sins, which makes the Gospel indeed 'good news'.
She goes so far as to make this claim, "Rose stared at the little girl and remembered Mary and Elizabeth's meeting while pregnant with Jesus and John the Baptist. Both women faced unexpected pregnancies" this is a presumptuous statement.

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News Item1/30/12 11:31 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
ProLife wrote:
Over these 39 years of legal abortion, and 55 million dead babies, what Christian Church have you witnessed leading the March on Washington and every other facet of the movement?
Pro Life, I wonder if you've ever marched against God for drowning to death the world population of men, women (including pregnant women) and children and babies, and saving only eight to tell the tale?

I sure hope not!

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News Item1/30/12 10:22 AM
ProLife  Find all comments by ProLife
The following is an excerpt of a letter (circa AD 130) from Mathetes to his friend Diognetus describing those in the Christian faith:

"They marry, they beget children; but they do not destroy their offspring. They have a common table, but not a common bed. They are in the flesh, but they do not live after the flesh. They live their time on earth, but they are citizens of heaven."

Lila has rescued many more unborn children than any of us. Do you really think that she's damned just because you include a few bullet points that somehow make Catholicism evil?

Since "World (right-wing Evangelical) Magazine" labels her a "Truth Detector" who are we to argue?

Over these 39 years of legal abortion, and 55 million dead babies, what Christian Church have you witnessed leading the March on Washington and every other facet of the movement? Since one might presume you're a pro-life Christian, perhaps we'll see you next January on the Mall for the 40th.

Her Church has been a "Truth Detector" for 2,000 years.

Michael Hranek wrote:
maddpackman
What will it profit Lila Rose if she gains the whole world, in this case ended the evil of abortion and forfeits her soul buying into the:
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News Item1/30/12 8:31 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
maddpackman wrote:
Why is it important if she is catholic? If it wasn't for Catholics few people would be doing anything about abortion.
maddpackman
What will it profit Lila Rose if she gains the whole world, in this case ended the evil of abortion and forfeits her soul buying into the:

Idolatrous (a sin of those who hate God)
Blasphemous (substituting the Queen of Heaven for Christ, and don't forget according to CCC 841 Catholics and Muslims adore the same god)
Lying (Substituting Tradition for the Bible, Promising Catholics an imaginary purgatory and the myth of baptismal regeneration in sprinkling babies)
Murderous (the religion guilty of slaughtering untold numbers of non-Catholics, especially genuine born again believers and Jews in the inquistion and other persecutions)
And more

False Religion of Roman Catholicism

BTW IMHO when genuine born again Christians wake up to the reality that sincere Catholic people like Lila Rose are on their way into the eternal punishment of hell, not because they had a good cause but rejected the Lord Jesus Christ and the Salvation He purchased with His blood on Cross, and have such love for them we cannot bear to see them perish, we will be so much better prepared to hate abortion too.

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News Item1/30/12 8:14 AM
maddpackman | Canton, ga  Find all comments by maddpackman
Why is it important if she is catholic? If it wasn't for Catholics few people would be doing anything about abortion.
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News Item1/28/12 12:18 PM
CHN  Find all comments by CHN
Lila,

Welcome Home!

J.O. wrote:
It is important to know that Lila Rose is a recent convert to the Roman Catholic Church:
http://www.catholic.org/video/watch.php?v=4507
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News Item1/28/12 9:45 AM
J.O. | Wisconsin  Find all comments by J.O.
It is important to know that Lila Rose is a recent convert to the Roman Catholic Church:

http://www.catholic.org/video/watch.php?v=4507

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News Item1/28/12 6:30 AM
angel in the mist  Find all comments by angel in the mist
Please pray that this young Christian lady would be protected from the wiles of the Devil.
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