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THURSDAY, JAN 19, 2012  |  26 comments
American caffeine addiction races full speed ahead

When future talking-monkey archaeologists sift through the detritus of postapocalyptic America, they would do well to ignore the usual cultural Rosetta Stones — the Statue of Liberty, Mount Rushmore, seven seasons and counting of “The Real Housewives of Orange County.”

They should focus instead on a single artifact: the AeroShot caffeine inhaler.

Sleek and plastic, the size of a lip balm tube, the AeroShot is the brainchild of David Edwards, a Harvard professor of biomedical engineering who also invented breathable chocolate. (Don’t ask.) The AeroShot contains a puff of lime-flavored caffeine powder; one squeeze, and it dispenses about 40 mg of the drug in your mouth, like an asthma inhaler. ...


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News Item1/20/12 6:42 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
reader wrote:
Article of interest John.
Congregational or Elder led?
Thanks, most interesting. Concluding remarks:
_________
Yeats said one of the major issues within the debate on church polity is trust -– whatever the congregational expression.

“Let’s just be straightforward about it," Yeats said. "Most people want to trust church leadership to make the right decisions. And their lives are so full and so cluttered with everyday decision-making with family, church, government, business, they just don’t have time to get involved in the day-to-day operations of a church. And they are just willing to trust the Lord and trust church leaders to take care of that process.

“And if you cannot trust church leaders, what other human can you trust?”
__________

What a shame that so many church leaders cannot be trusted these days. The very folks we should look up to are going "funny" and acting "strangely". Decisions are being made which grate. It is like a bewitching. "Who hath bewitched you?"

If you have a good pastor and undershepherd, treasure him and pray daily that the Lord sustains him in the work. It is a fierce work and warfare!

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News Item1/20/12 12:42 PM
reader  Find all comments by reader
John UK wrote:
ask for more detail on this. Would the one elder be regarded as the teaching elder (pastor) and the deaconate in supportive spiritual roles? Or would the deacons be (what I've always been taught) more to do with the running of the ship?
Article of interest John.
Congregational or Elder led?
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News Item1/20/12 6:05 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Observer wrote:
What troubles me more is that we have today a very strong movement which insists in the Presbyterian system of a plurality of elders in every congregation as the norm. This has gained momentum even among the Baptist churches, who seem to have forgotten that our forebears before the mid 19 century believed in a one elder and plurality of deacons (if warranted) system.
Good morning bro.

I can't stop now, but I thought I'd dip in the forum and ask for more detail on this. Would the one elder be regarded as the teaching elder (pastor) and the deaconate in supportive spiritual roles? Or would the deacons be (what I've always been taught) more to do with the running of the ship?

I'll be back later on tonight, DV.

Arira wrote:
Mike! Me and your gran would have got on real fine! Tea ... antioxidants. Never ever ever, ever, use teabags unless in extreme emergency.
Arira, interesting post! I drink Redbush Tea (from Rooibos Bush), but I buy it in teabag form.

You seem to be laying great emphasis on never ever, ever using a teabag. Can you fill in some more detail on why you said that, please? Thank you.

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News Item1/19/12 9:58 PM
Arira  Find all comments by Arira
Mike! Me and your gran would have got on real fine! Tea ... antioxidants. Never ever ever, ever, use teabags unless in extreme emergency.
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News Item1/19/12 7:26 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
John UK wrote:
Too late for me to think about all that now, brother. Nod calls. But it is mighty fine that we have this Baptist SA web forum to give our opinions.
Goodnight bro!
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News Item1/19/12 7:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Observer wrote:
Between elders? Not a good place bro!
John, you are right, but since elder/overseer are used interchangeably the NT, the role was seen as more important than the age. And don't forget that Timothy was exhorted by Paul, "Let no man despise thy youth" when he was an elder!
What troubles me more is that we have today a very strong movement which insists in the Presbyterian system of a plurality of Elders in every congregation as the norm. This has gained momentum even among the Baptist churches, who seem to have forgotten that our forebears before the mid 19 century believed in a one Elder and plurality of deacons (if warranted) system. Presby polity has encroached into Baptist churches and if you visit forums like the Puritan Board which was set up by a ex Baptist turned paleo-Presby you will find Baptists under pressure giving up their distinctives, admitting sprinkling etc. Is the writing on the wall when Baptists admit Presby principles?
Too late for me to think about all that now, brother. Nod calls. But it is mighty fine that we have this Baptist SA web forum to give our opinions.
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News Item1/19/12 7:12 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
John UK wrote:
Thank you bro, but I'm between elders. And have you ever considered that "elder" in the NT context may well just be simply an "older" brother who is highly regarded and acceptable as a spiritual guide?
Between elders? Not a good place bro!

John, you are right, but since elder/overseer are used interchangeably in the NT, the role was seen as more important than the age. And don't forget that Timothy was exhorted by Paul, "Let no man despise thy youth" when he was an elder!

What troubles me more is that we have today a very strong movement which insists in the Presbyterian system of a plurality of elders in every congregation as the norm. This has gained momentum even among the Baptist churches, who seem to have forgotten that our forebears before the mid 19 century believed in a one elder and plurality of deacons (if warranted) system. Presby polity has encroached into Baptist churches and if you visit forums like the Puritan Board which was set up by a ex Baptist turned paleo-Presby you will find Baptists under pressure giving up their distinctives, admitting sprinkling etc. Is the writing on the wall when Baptists admit Presby principles?

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News Item1/19/12 7:08 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
I had an aunt who never touched coffee. Tea was her drink. It's all she ever drank, not even plain water did she take. She was very healthy, very rarely saw a doctor, died at 101. (I had more medical records by time I was 15, than she had when she died.) Maybe I should take up sola tea drinking. Maybe it's the caffeine.
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News Item1/19/12 6:57 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Neil wrote:
I have thought often about that, and it seems on the right track. Given how prevalent elders are in the cultures of Scripture, I presume for Synagogue as well as more clearly in Temple Judaism & the NT ekklesia, I find it odd that Westerners & Greeks ever thought they had to be professionalized as salaried clergy, requiring a seminary credential. That's Rome for you, & their Protestant imitators.
Ah yes, this is my thinking too.
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News Item1/19/12 6:51 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
John UK wrote:
And have you ever considered that "elder" in the NT context may well just be simply an "older" brother who is highly regarded and acceptable as a spiritual guide? Or put it another way, were the older men in the Jewish synagogues spoken of as elders?
I have thought often about that, and it seems on the right track. Given how prevalent elders are in the cultures of Scripture, I presume for Synagogue as well as more clearly in Temple Judaism & the NT ekklesia, I find it odd that Westerners & Greeks ever thought they had to be professionalized as salaried clergy, requiring a seminary credential. That's Rome for you, & their Protestant imitators.
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News Item1/19/12 6:41 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Neil wrote:
Your secret is safe with me; I'll not fink on you to your elders.
Thank you bro, but I'm between elders. And have you ever considered that "elder" in the NT context may well just be simply an "older" brother who is highly regarded and acceptable as a spiritual guide? Or put it another way, were the older men in the Jewish synagogues spoken of as elders?

jpw wrote:
thanks John UK for inspiration for my new bumpersticker
"don't feed the vultures"
Here's another one, jp:

"I'm sorry for driving a car, but the guv has forced me into it! "

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News Item1/19/12 6:40 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
thanks John UK for inspiration for my new bumpersticker

"don't feed the vultures"

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News Item1/19/12 6:36 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
John UK wrote:
Truth to tell, I had a rare cuppa at my art class yesterday, because it was included in the price of the lesson. I even had two biscuits! Tut!
Your secret is safe with me; I'll not fink on you to your elders.
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News Item1/19/12 6:34 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Neil wrote:
OK John, you convinced me — I'll not share my coffee with any bovines, if I ever come to own one ☺
Now you all are on notice: I might go bananas from all the caffeine ☠, like those crazy survivalists in Job 30. I've been warned.
I never even mentioned coffee, Neil?

Truth to tell, I had a rare cuppa at my art class yesterday, because it was included in the price of the lesson. I even had two biscuits! Tut!

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News Item1/19/12 6:30 PM
Rufus2 | Fort Worth, TX  Find all comments by Rufus2
Neil wrote:
... You're outvoted.
I do not concern myself with voting on such things.

"Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered." - Proverbs 11:21

"Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil;" - Exodus 23:2a

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News Item1/19/12 6:23 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
OK John, you convinced me — I'll not share my coffee with any bovines, if I ever come to own one ☺

Now you all are on notice: I might go bananas from all the caffeine ☠, like those crazy survivalists in Job 30. I've been warned.

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News Item1/19/12 6:14 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Vulture deaths in India were finally resolved, thanks to investigative folks from USA and elsewhere. The problem was serious, not least to certain religious cults, who "bury" their dead by putting them on the roof of a building and allowing the vultures to strip the body completely of all flesh.

Vultures solve the problem of any carcase, and are well able to deal with any carcase. Except, that is, the carcases of cows which, during their life, have been tampered by human beings, who have injected those cows with certain substances alien to the normal lifecycle of a cow.

It was these "abnormal" substances within the cows which was wiping out entire flocks of vultures, thus causing a deep concern.

And no, I am not going to comment any more on this, as it is self-explanatory.

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News Item1/19/12 5:47 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
you would expect a generation that is eating genetically modified foods (most foods in market have them now, whereas 20 years ago they didn't), foods where the animals are sick and malnutritioned (where cows are fed as carnivores and are sickly --fed with antibiotics, wierd diseases) verses the diet of 50 years ago, even further when the fermented foods and grass fed cows had the b vitamins and were nutritionally optimal can contribute to a generation that is fatigued and lives off caffeine and sugar--which are both drugs. people who live off of caffeine may well be adrenally depleted and after taking it for so long will be.

Nothing replaces the growing of God's seed in a community, the basics of life. M's seed is designed to be sterile--the seed can't reproduce itself, kind of like the same problem as the Indiana license plate story--- we are making a people and a food that cannot reproduce itself, have its own progeny---WE ARE BREAKING THE CYCLE OF LIFE.

M's seed makes the animals who feed off it sterile---eating sterile gm food causes the animals to be sterile. and you all feed this stuff to your kids.

what a nuts generation.

expect people to reach out to these kinds of products to make up for malntn, just like the abortionist told me would happen.

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News Item1/19/12 3:57 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Rufus wrote:
How noble. Since you are not omniscient & the scientific method is fallacious you are unable to judge that Christians ought not partake of cocaine,marijuana and meth. I will grant you that it is a consistent position, however flawed.
I on the other hand believe that addictive substances that are harmful to people's bodies and behaviours ought to be preached against.
You can say that all you want, but you still can't prove it! You rightly mistrust mainstream science regarding Creation, I assume, yet you trust it absolutely on this issue. The rest of your remarks are easily disposed of since they merely beg the question.

How much caffeine did ancient juniper root have? Let's see a figure, w/o assuming the modern variety has the same (or do you have a Wayback Machine?). Or better, how do you know caffeine had anything to do with the behavioral problems described?

I don't deny that few preachers have a problem with caffeine, but the pattern still stands regarding alcohol, smoking, etc., neither of which I care for personally. But at least this is one issue there's not much danger of hearing pulpit rubbish about. You're outvoted.

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News Item1/19/12 3:42 PM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Neil wrote:
...
How noble. Since you are not omniscient & the scientific method is fallacious you are unable to judge that Christians ought not partake of cocaine,marijuana and meth. I will grant you that it is a consistent position, however flawed.

I on the other hand believe that addictive substances that are harmful to people's bodies and behaviours ought to be preached against. Cocaine, caffeine, nicotine, methampetamine etc. are all addictive, all bad for the body and all alter the users mind and not in the direction of having sound minds. They are all wicked and Christians should not do drugs.

On the Job verses Juniper root contains caffeine. That religious externalist Job who was majoring on the minors of clean living said that he would not allow those people around his dogs and observed that they died early etc. (As a side note chocolate is in the mallow family).

You saying "Fundies" excel at such things is curious as I can count on my hand only 3 fundamental preachers that might preach this position. Most "fundies" are quite partial to coffee drinking, donut eating, pork consuming etc.

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