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FRONT PAGE  |  8/22/2014
THURSDAY, JAN 19, 2012  |  28 comments
Sojourners and Keystone: Using the Bible for political purposes

Fast as always with a press release, Sojourners came out with an extraordinary headline this afternoon: ‚ÄúObama Administration Rejects Keystone XL Pipeline. Christian and Other Faith Leaders Praise Administration‚Äôs Decision to Put Creation over Narrow Corporate Interests.‚ÄĚ

Oh, so that’s what happened.


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Actually some things are so obvious to me, that I just assume that others should actually see it. I'll really have to stop over-estimating people's knowledge. So, no, I just happened to see Neil's comment for the first time as I was looking for a place to put the Keystone article I found with my tablet.

Mike of N.Y., I'm glad that you at least realize I'm a little more flexible on what I upload. Mike of N.Y., when one is just going to faint dead away if one party wins or looses, yes that is The Inadequacy of Moralism.

For some strange reason, President Obama, doesn't send me a file everyday, and say, "Hey, Jim, this is what I'm thinking, what do you think?" He may want to give the Democratic candidates for Congress all the help he can, so he isn't going to rile up Green voters by approving the pipeline. Besides it helps one of his supporters "No Billionaire left behind, when it comes to being taxed," who owns a lot of rolling stock that oil is shipped in. If one is going to benefit a billionaire, he's one of the better ones to do it for.

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News Item2/5/14 11:22 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
UPDATE 1-Without Keystone, oil trains may cause 6 deaths per year -US State Dept report
An interesting update. No, Neil, the only thing I have suggested was impeachment -- not violence. Your indifference to Republican immorality, is noted.
The inadequacy of moralism, Jim.

Interesting article. The pipeline would carry about 830000 barrels a day, which if transported by train would require approx 1185 tanker cars. That much oil being loaded, delivered and unloaded daily is quite the imaginative scenario. It shouldn't take a State dept report to determine the pipeline to be much safer.

The stalling by the prez is not a safety or environmental issue, for the pipeline is the most environmentally safe way, as proven already by the tens of thousands of miles of pipeline already in existence. So we have to ask, why is he opposed to less dependence on ME oil?

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News Item2/5/14 11:22 AM
hope Neil is paying attention  Find all comments by hope Neil is paying attention
Jim Lincoln wrote:
UPDATE 1-Without Keystone, oil trains may cause 6 deaths per year -US State Dept report
An interesting update. No, Neil, the only thing I have suggested was impeachment -- not violence. Your indifference to Republican immorality, is noted.
Jim thought this one out for two years!!
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News Item2/5/14 10:19 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
UPDATE 1-Without Keystone, oil trains may cause 6 deaths per year -US State Dept report

An interesting update. No, Neil, the only thing I have suggested was impeachment -- not violence. Your indifference to Republican immorality, is noted.

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News Item1/23/12 5:43 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Street-Preacher wrote:
---
ROMNEY: A 33*-MASON !
RON PAUL: A MASON-BAPHOMET-LUSTING STOOGE !
OBAMA: A 33*-MASON !
---!
So who do you want for president?
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News Item1/23/12 4:44 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item1/21/12 4:22 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I already know about fuel being our #1 export, but was asking for evidence that your Senator supported the ‚Äútake-it-or-leave it‚ÄĚ amendment as an oil-industry stooge, & not for any other reason. Otherwise, I'm no more inclined to believe you than him.

I think you & other oil-industry flamers are just greedy for cheap gas, & either assume oil execs are as greedy as you are, or else resent anything or anyone that inconveniences you. This probably explains your pathological hatred for all things George Bush, whom you flame at every opportunity. Perhaps the Secret Service should keep an eye on you. It is certainly not an attitude I expect from Christians.

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News Item1/21/12 2:56 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Neil, this will somewhat back up my statement--In a first, gas and other fuels are top US export. I have no trouble agreeing with you that taxes and refining costs are the greatest costs for American consumers. I'm also surprised that Canadians didn't want to build more refineries to get the extra benefit from, "added values," to their oil production?

The Bushes,Dick Cheney,(You know, this fellow, and many of the other people in G. W. Bush's ruling cartel were in the oil business. I would think that's a fact that you should know, already, Neil.

Tony Cisneros, many have already answered you very well, so again for those who are going to church tomorrow in the Chicago/Hammond area check out Christian Fellowship Church to avoid Tony and his friends. I am surprised that a church with a title of the first Baptist Church of Hammond Indiana, seems to have a Pentecostal flavor. A Look at the Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement - Is it Biblical?

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News Item1/21/12 2:02 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Street-Preacher wrote:
Evidently "mike" Is IGNORANT Of THE HISTORIC+AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+HOLY+BIBLE Which Says:
!
"mike" & his EVIL ILK Are WILLINGLY IGNORANT Of FACT & TRUTH !
You an imaginer, a dreamer, with many many words.

Proverbs 12:20
Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but to the counsellors of peace is joy

Ecclesiastes 5:7
"For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God."

Consider taking this advice, for your own puffed up sake.

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News Item1/21/12 8:39 AM
Zoolander | Quiet street  Find all comments by Zoolander
Street-Preacher wrote:
"lurker" Wrote: "[I'M (That Is, "lurker" IS) THE] IGNORANTER-one & IGNORANTEST (one) !"
Why is this lout still allowed on these forums, and why does he have to shout about everything.

Let me ask you, you bore, do you think that the Lord went about SHOUTING about everything?!

You really need a good dose of maturity and an injection of common sense.

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News Item1/20/12 11:58 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item1/20/12 11:50 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Street-Preacher wrote:
[I'M THE] IGNORANTER-one & IGNORANTEST Of My Jewish-Sicilian Blood, Family, Heritage & Olive Oil !
Do tell?

Good night, Tony Bob. Don't let the bed bugs bite. They may be free mason demons.

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News Item1/20/12 11:32 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item1/20/12 11:26 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Street-Preacher wrote:
OH IGNORANTER-one & IGNORANTIST-"lurker" !
Too funny!

This is what happens when one gets their theology from Chick comic books. I'm so embarrassed for you, TLC.

Btw! What thinkest thou the 1st century Christians burned in their lamps?

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Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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News Item1/20/12 10:55 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Street-Preacher wrote:
Evidently you "mike" Are IGNORANT Of THE HISTORIC+AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+HOLY+BIBLE Which Says:

"And I Heard A Voice In The Midst Of The Four Beasts Say, A Measure Of Wheat For A Penny (A Day's Wage), And Three Measures Of Barley For A Penny (A Day's Wage);
And See Thou Hurt NOT
THE OIL
And
THE (STRONG) WINE."--REVELATION 6:6 !

"THE OIL" blah, blah, blah....

..... is olive oil, oh ignorant one.

Street-Preacher wrote:
THE POOR SOULS WHO'LL BE "LEFT-BEHIND" AFTER CHRIST'S "PRE-TRIBULATION" RAPTURE TO SUFFER THE "TRIBULATION'S &-OR THE 'GREAT-TRIBULATION'S " 7-YEARS "HELL-ON-EARTH"

You paid perfectly good money for BJU to teach you this? I'd demand a refund.
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News Item1/20/12 7:17 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Neil wrote:
What many of my fellow Americans don't seem to understand is that crude oil prices are just part of the cost at the pump. The rest is refining, distribution, profit, etc., but ESPECIALLY taxes, which vary wildly by jurisdiction. This is why Arizona gas is ~40¬Ę cheaper than in Calif., even though the Fed tax % is the same. This also is why European gas is so much more costly; from the earliest days, European govt's taxed fuel heavily, & is why they have so many tiny cars, as in France for example, which taxes cars by engine displacement.
Here's more info on the US: EIA Motor Fuel Taxes by State
From that chart, Neil, it would seem that each state can impose its own tax on fuel, with a huge difference in some instances. And you're right about the hefty tax we have to pay under Westminster - it is HUGE! Currently, and I hate to say we now have to buy in litres, our price is around £1.31/litre, with no sign of a letup.
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News Item1/20/12 4:29 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Yup, it's them Bushes what done it, them oil soaked Bushes. Jim says so, dutifully bringing them up in everthing.

Somehow reminds me of Tony's
SATANICVATICANISTMASONICJEWSUITDEVILWORSHIPPINGVONMISESSTOOGES.

33rd degree brothers?

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News Item1/20/12 3:24 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim, I need evidence before I believe anything you post that I don't already know. Where are all those URLs you love to include?

"Oil pumped in United States was was not sold in this country or to lower prices here but was sold abroad ... many advertisements supporting this pipeline don't go into the negative details"

Yes, maybe they don't realize how economically illiterate their readers are. And what foolishness from CBS! Of course oil is sold abroad! Why sell domestically when you can get a better price where demand is higher? You'd do the same if you ran a business; why sell cheap when you can sell dear? It's not a sin, just dumb 'ol supply & demand.

I think people like you who are obsessed with imagined oil co. conspiracies are simply projecting their own lust for cheap fuel, despite the fact that it's long been cheaper here than in most Western countries. Total Depravity: There's just no pleasing some people.

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