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MONDAY, JAN 16, 2012  |  6 comments  |  1 commentary
The Theological Differences Behind Evangelical Unease With Romney

The Rev. R. Philip Roberts, the president of a Southern Baptist seminary in Kansas City, Mo., is an evangelist with a particular goal: countering Mormon beliefs.

Mr. Roberts has traveled throughout the United States, and to some countries abroad, preaching that Mormonism is heretical to Christianity. His message is a theological one, but theology is about to land squarely in the middle of the Republican presidential primary campaign.

As the Republican voting moves South, with primaries in South Carolina on Saturday and in Florida on Jan. 31, the religion of Mitt Romney, the front-runner, may be an inescapable issue in many voters’ minds. In South Carolina, where about 60 percent of Republican voters are evangelical Christians, Mr. Romney, a devout Mormon and a former bishop in the church, faces an electorate that has been exposed over the years to preachers like Mr. Roberts who teach that the ...


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Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Mike of NY, I would still think this would apply to the president of the United States:
RULER:
Ruler /Rul´er/ (rṳl´ẽr), n. 1. One who rules; one who exercises sway or authority; a governor.
And he made him ruler over all the land. Gen. xli. 43.
A prince and ruler of the land. Shak.… Webster' 1913 dictionary.
Romans 13
13:1 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.---NASB
Now, that looks pretty clear to me, Mike. Since God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient--you would have to deny those qualities to God if he didn't pick all the rulers.
Nonsense. You forgot sovereign, and like some 5 pointers, you think that means God is responsible for everything that happens, while simultaneously denying his sovereign right to allow men choices. (Convenient excuse for indifference and denial of responsibility, btw)

Also, defining ruler by the dictionary merely defines ruler, not president. POTUS is temporary presiding officer of the executive branch of the government only. Elected, as you know. Don't schools teach these things in Nebraska?

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News Item1/17/12 2:59 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike of NY, I would still think this would apply to the president of the United States:
RULER:

Ruler /Rul´er/ (rṳl´ẽr), n. 1. One who rules; one who exercises sway or authority; a governor.
And he made him ruler over all the land. Gen. xli. 43.
A prince and ruler of the land. Shak.… Webster' 1913 dictionary.

Romans 13
13:1 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.---NASB

Now, that looks pretty clear to me, Mike. Since God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient--you would have to deny those qualities to God if he didn't pick all the rulers.

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News Item1/16/12 4:26 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
I guess the end of the bllfrhts, which is really what this election is about...doesn't matter.

the idea that the system derives its power from the people who derive their rights from the Creator.

throwing this all out the window, lets start over with globalism, and see how the Christian fares. and to that I do not say God speed, but good luck!

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News Item1/16/12 2:39 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Mr. Bellson, (I assume you're a, "Mr.," ) In a way you are correct, because God always picks the ruler, q.v.,The Believer and Politics.
God will be examining the individual Christian for how he does vote, and the reasons for it. Why you voted for one candidate or another or not vote for any other.
Bellson asked about the job of president, not ruler. You still confuse the terms, Jim.
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News Item1/16/12 2:25 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mr. Bellson, (I assume you're a, "Mr.," ) In a way you are correct, because God always picks the ruler, q.v.,The Believer and Politics.

God will be examining the individual Christian for how he does vote, and the reasons for it. Why you voted for one candidate or another or not vote for any other. A Mormon in the White House? 10 Things Every American Should Know About Mitt Romney.

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News Item1/16/12 12:37 PM
Bellson  Find all comments by Bellson
Does it really matter in a fallen world who gets the job of president, in a democracy?
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