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SUNDAY, DEC 11, 2011  |  23 comments  |  1 commentary
Archbishop: Jesus would be siding with Occupy movement

Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams says Jesus would have joined protesters from the anti-corporate Occupy movement who have been camped outside London’s St. Paul’s Cathedral for more than seven weeks.

In a British magazine, the leader of the world’s 78 million Anglicans worldwide insisted that Jesus would be “there, sharing the risks, not just taking sides.”


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News Item12/12/11 2:27 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Michael Hranek wrote:
John UK
I heard that.
Especially when the ungodly infest the pulpits to lead people astray.
Here locally a church a friend of my wife has been attending has cancelled Sunday Services on Christmas day. Something the seriously grieved my wife's friend. She emailed them and has gotten no response as yet. And I must apologize for what I posted earlier and then deleted as I had mistakenly thought another local promenent church had done the same, they had just dropped their Sunday evening service.
Good evening Michael my bro

It is much the same over here these days. The religious festivals are no longer a time for Christians to celebrate together. Most churches have no time for a straightforward service, so they hold a mini one with lighthearted atmosphere, and you can sense the majority of the congregation wish to be away as soon as possible, to get back to their family gathering. Others, like the one in your post, cancel all meetings.

It's a mystery to me, bro.

woken up
Yes, you're right about there being humour-gift which some have. But we all should have love, joy, peace in the Holy Ghost.

These qualities are astounding in a human bean.

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News Item12/12/11 2:04 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
John UK wrote:
What a shame, though, that the ungodly should be able to make me laugh, and attending church should be a cause of unnecessary stress and weeping. When Jesus came into my heart I was the happiest man on earth ...... but then I started going to church.
John UK
I heard that.

Especially when the ungodly infest the pulpits to lead people astray.

Here locally a church a friend of my wife has been attending has cancelled Sunday Services on Christmas day. Something the seriously grieved my wife's friend. She emailed them and has gotten no response as yet. And I must apologize for what I posted earlier and then deleted as I had mistakenly thought another local promenent church had done the same, they had just dropped their Sunday evening service.

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News Item12/12/11 1:28 PM
Woken up  Find all comments by Woken up
John UK wrote:
What a shame, though, that the ungodly should be able to make me laugh, and attending church should be a cause of unnecessary stress and weeping.
God places his gift of humour in whosoever he wills. But better indeed to be saved and have no natural wit, than to be a natural wit and be lost. Certainly it is a sad truth that attending church is all too often a cause of unnecessary stress and weeping.
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News Item12/12/11 3:00 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Wake up wrote:
Off with the rose tinted specs! have you no shame?
Clean humour does not consist of the perpetual storyline where Sergeant Wilson was the evident father of Private Pike and continued to go have an immoral relationship with his mother 17 years on. Subtle abomination is still abomination.
"She's a widow and she has my ration book and I go round to her house sometimes for meals... and that sort of thing."
The programme portrayed lifestyles that were just as sordid as the lifestyles of the families of the actors that played them.
Families that winked at such sin on TV in the home in the seventies have no morals left at all today in their children and grandchildren. Sin works full measure.
Good point well made, even though there are good role models also within such a program, showing Christian values.

What a shame, though, that the ungodly should be able to make me laugh, and attending church should be a cause of unnecessary stress and weeping. When Jesus came into my heart I was the happiest man on earth ...... but then I started going to church.

Oh and if you're wondering, it was after I was saved that I rejected the TV as ungodliness, but was enticed back to it by .... the church.

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News Item12/11/11 11:56 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Jesus would no more side with OWS than he did with the zealots of his day who were trying to undermine the Roman government.

He did have at least one disciple who was described as a former zealot, so if Jesus were around today he might have followers who would be former OWS people.

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News Item12/11/11 7:47 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Neil wrote:
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For the life of me, I can't figure out why American programs are so exportable.
Just guessing, Neil, but maybe it's the same attraction that gawkers have for accidents.
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News Item12/11/11 7:43 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
John UK wrote:
We get a lot of American programs repeated over here. I thought perhaps "Dad's Army" might have found its way over there…
I've followed PBS programming for a long time now, yet never saw that show listed. Many “successful” British TV shows get remade by American producers in American settings (e.g. “All in the Family” & “The Office“). Maybe PBS program planners reckoned that Americans can't relate to the peculiarly British situation of the “Home Guard“ – America had nothing like Britain's manpower problem during WW2.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why American programs are so exportable.

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News Item12/11/11 6:19 PM
Wake up  Find all comments by Wake up
Off with the rose tinted specs! have you no shame?

Clean humour does not consist of the perpetual storyline where Sergeant Wilson was the evident father of Private Pike and continued to go have an immoral relationship with his mother 17 years on. Subtle abomination is still abomination.

"She's a widow and she has my ration book and I go round to her house sometimes for meals... and that sort of thing."

The programme portrayed lifestyles that were just as sordid as the lifestyles of the families of the actors that played them.

Families that winked at such sin on TV in the home in the seventies have no morals left at all today in their children and grandchildren. Sin works full measure.

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News Item12/11/11 6:06 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Cliff Leckey wrote:
Yes "Dad`s army" really was a classic with it`s clean humour which made it even more enjoyable.Sadly what passess for "humour" today is no less than verbal sarcasm lased with every kind of filth imaginable.
It is a sad inditement on our society, that TV programs have become so evil. Ah yes, there was a time when humour was clean and speech was acceptable, and British humour could make people laugh simply by situation comedy done in a simple way.
Surely it must be close to the end of the world.
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News Item12/11/11 5:50 PM
Pike  Find all comments by Pike
Cliff Leckey wrote:
Yes "Dad`s army" really was a classic with it`s clean humour which made it even more enjoyable.
Clean humour Uncle Arthur?
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News Item12/11/11 5:46 PM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
John UK wrote:
We get a lot of American programs repeated over here. I thought perhaps "Dad's Army" might have found its way over there, seeing as it one of the funniest sitcoms we have made, and is still being repeated despite coming to an end a long time ago. A real classic, and very well made, true to life.
Yes "Dad`s army" really was a classic with it`s clean humour which made it even more enjoyable.Sadly what passess for "humour" today is no less than verbal sarcasm lased with every kind of filth imaginable.
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News Item12/11/11 5:38 PM
Hodges  Find all comments by Hodges
Neil wrote:
I must've missed that one
Who do you think you are kidding Mister

John UK wrote:
We get a lot of American programs repeated over here.
Not only that, but did you know that every single one has also been shown for the first time over here as well.
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News Item12/11/11 5:34 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Neil wrote:
I must've missed that one on PBS (President Johnson's BBC imitation here), but this list has several I recognize, including Wilde's Dr. Chasuble, Austen's Mr. Collins & Mr. Elton, & esp. Rev. Michael from “Keeping Up Appearances”:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheVicar
BTW, Jane Austen's father George was a rector. She's one of my favorite authors, a literary genius whose comedy is classicly British, yet has an ethical underpinning that's missing from much modern fiction.
We get a lot of American programs repeated over here. I thought perhaps "Dad's Army" might have found its way over there, seeing as it one of the funniest sitcoms we have made, and is still being repeated despite coming to an end a long time ago. A real classic, and very well made, true to life.
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News Item12/11/11 4:33 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
John UK wrote:
It's true enough, Neil. That is just how they are in reality. I don't know if you've ever seen "Dad's Army" in the states, but it's a sitcom based on the work of the Home Guard, and the anglican vicar along with his entourage is a good stereotype of the real thing.
I must've missed that one on PBS (President Johnson's BBC imitation here), but this list has several I recognize, including Wilde's Dr. Chasuble, Austen's Mr. Collins & Mr. Elton, & esp. Rev. Michael from “Keeping Up Appearances”:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheVicar

BTW, Jane Austen's father George was a rector. She's one of my favorite authors, a literary genius whose comedy is classicly British, yet has an ethical underpinning that's missing from much modern fiction.

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News Item12/11/11 4:05 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Neil wrote:
Professional clergymen are always good for a laugh when they try to be profound; no wonder Anglican vicars are portrayed as milquetoast nincompoops by English fiction writers.
It's true enough, Neil. That is just how they are in reality. I don't know if you've ever seen "Dad's Army" in the states, but it's a sitcom based on the work of the Home Guard, and the anglican vicar along with his entourage is a good stereotype of the real thing.
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News Item12/11/11 4:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
One person that the English can keep is Rowie, if you wrong in one area about Rendering To Caesar: A Biblical Perspective On Government, you can be wrong in other areas as well, The Archbishop and Sharia, even the Archbishop of C. had more sense than that! Former archbishop lays into Islamic culture.

One thing handy in the case of what Rowie says, if a Christian does the opposite he's on safe ground, usually.

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News Item12/11/11 2:58 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
The Church of England is a classic bit of socialism, a state-owned, tax-funded royal monopoly. In the era of its founding, it was common for court favorites to be granted royal monopolies, subverting the free market. Crony capitalism (regardless of ownership model, jpw) is its modern equivalent, wherein US Federal agencies give loans or loan guarantees to favored businesses, such as “green” energy companies which have the bad habit of going bankrupt.

Professional clergymen are always good for a laugh when they try to be profound; no wonder Anglican vicars are portrayed as milquetoast nincompoops by English fiction writers.

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News Item12/11/11 2:22 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
since when does corporatism equal free market?

free market means people choose their products and the people produce and trade their products.

corporatism fights against free market.

communism fights against free market.

and the merging of the two is what we have now.

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News Item12/11/11 2:17 PM
K3d  Find all comments by K3d
"Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams says Jesus would have joined protesters from the anti-corporate Occupy movement"

What a stupid thing to say.
Sorry.
What a Liberal thing to say.

Oh they are the same anyway arn't they.

Rowan the man-pleaser Archbishop of Liberal religion will of course apply the principles of political correctness when thinking, writing and speaking.

Jesus does not sort out mammon's problems for him nor for mortals.
Jesus was very definitely not a socialist.

Rowan Williams wrote:
The archbishop said that when Jesus said “give (to) Caesar what belongs to Caesar,” he was asking “what’s the exact point at which involvement in the empire of capitalist economy involves you fatally.”
Rowan you really are a plonker.
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News Item12/11/11 1:31 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams says Jesus would have joined protesters from the anti-corporate Occupy movement...

"In a British magazine, the leader of the world's 78 million Anglicans worldwide insisted that Jesus would be "there, sharing the risks, not just taking sides."

Aside from biblical ignorance, the Archbishop's statement makes no sense. The "anti-corporate" protesters have surely taken sides. The people they are protesting against are pretty much the ones who do the risk-taking in going into business in the first place. Useful idiot Leftists are a sad lot, whether wearing scruffy clothes or long robes and funny hats.

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