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WEDNESDAY, NOV 16, 2011  |  12 comments
Next item on Obama agenda: Live patients as organ donors
Officials running a federal program that is considering redefining death are going to be seeking further public comment after members of the Christian Medical Association raised alarms about several problems, including what they believe would be an open door to pressure families to donate organs before their loved one has died.

The proposal could move the federal government closer into alignment with what has been proposed by longtime Barack Obama adviser Cass Sunstein.

Obama's "regulatory czar" was revealed in 2009 to have pushed strongly for the removal of organs from those who did not give their consent to becoming an organ donor.

It was reported that in his book, "Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health, Wealth and Happiness," Sunstein and co-author Richard Thaler presented the possibility of the "routine removal" of organs because "the state owns the rights to body parts of people who ...


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jpw  Find all comments by jpw
and legal immunity is given to the producers. (ominous that they would not want to take responsibility for their own product) this is how the statistics keep rising but no one cares to do anything about it.

In Japan after 4 passed away, the product was removed, because they cared for their children.

Here, the response to 50+ statistics was to start giving it to 12 year olds without the consent of the parents.

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News Item11/17/11 12:29 AM
OBX  Find all comments by OBX
Wind wrote:
Whoever suggested it was biblical?
Surely not the pro-life church for they have been silent of this issue for decades.
Unless perhaps willful silence implies consent?
What happens when a patient awakens from his coma just after his liver has been removed for transplantation?
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News Item11/16/11 11:55 PM
Wind  Find all comments by Wind
OBX wrote:
Front end of the transplant business:
1. Remove organ. 2. Unplug machine. 3. Person dies.
How is this biblical? Shouldn't it be 3-2-1?
Whoever suggested it was biblical?
Surely not the pro-life church for they have been silent of this issue for decades.
Unless perhaps willful silence implies consent?
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News Item11/16/11 10:50 PM
OBX  Find all comments by OBX
Wind wrote:
Old news.
Transplant organs have always been taken from living people.
Front end of the transplant business:
1. Remove organ. 2. Unplug machine. 3. Person dies.

How is this biblical? Shouldn't it be 3-2-1?

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News Item11/16/11 10:26 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2061267/Schoolgirl-Lucy-Hinks-left-waking-coma-severe-reaction-cervical-cancer-jab.html
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News Item11/16/11 6:41 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
“Organ Donor” — hospital slang for a sports bike, motorbike, or moped.

So ride safely!

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News Item11/16/11 6:26 PM
Wind  Find all comments by Wind
Old news.

Transplant organs have always been taken from living people.

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News Item11/16/11 12:53 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
...Continued from previous post.
When I lived in Lancaster County, I had a well traveled route between my home and that of my closet brethren. It was a scenic route and the neat and orderly Mennonite farms often had a billboard that was just a Scripture verse. 'Prepare to meet thy God' was the that which was set before my eyes repeatedly on route. Amos 4 was my normal read-thru chapter, but I fell asleep before reading it and woke to read and consider. What you said jpw made me think of what I read. We have spoken here concerning just and unjust wars. Thus my closing thought: that of all the fearful armies men can muster the unseen is the most dreadful and did cause me to: "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." Phil. 2:12-13 That was what I was trying to share, in case I was unclear.
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News Item11/16/11 11:13 AM
RP  Find all comments by RP
jpw wrote:
give to Caesasr what he thinks is his, ... perhaps the older generation will listen when its their own organs put on the auction block.
That would seem as if it should be so, but in the third watch Tues. AM I was reading Amos 4 and after the sword, pestilence and famine the nation and majority of it people were not moved to repentance causing the prophet to repeat v.8b"yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD." So concluding he now says: v. 11-13 "I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel.
For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name." The Most fearful army to encounter, if not found accepted in the Beloved.
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News Item11/16/11 10:19 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
give to Caesasr what he thinks is his, and you will find your whole life, even your organs in his shopping cart.

our lives are not derived from the state. They are derived from God.

He owns life and has the right to it. No one else.

Since 50 girls (plus more now with all the mandates) have died from g$$dee now, perhaps the older generation will listen when its their own organs put on the auction block.

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News Item11/16/11 9:12 AM
math for dummies  Find all comments by math for dummies
What is the current organ donation removal process? Perhaps this precedent has led the government to "own" your organs.
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News Item11/16/11 8:32 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
We can add this to the mix of things the Roman empire did that the American Empire is or will be doing.
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