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TUESDAY, NOV 15, 2011  |  5 comments
Jamestown Thought to Yield Ruins of Oldest U.S. Protestant Church
For more than a decade, the marshy island in Virginia where British colonists landed in 1607 has yielded uncounted surprises. And yet William M. Kelso’s voice still brims with excitement as he plants his feet atop a long-buried discovery at the settlement’s heart: what he believes are the nation’s oldest remains of a Protestant church.

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RP  Find all comments by RP
Anna K wrote:
"While Virginians were largely loyal to the Church of England, the pilgrims in Plymouth repudiated the church and came to America to escape it. "
A reasonable expectation of what this dig may reveal.
Did you notice the picture in the article of the grave marker? The first time I worshipped in the states with a visible RP Church, was as a member of a mission planting work. The ministry came to us from Canada and we were given the use of a Calvinistic Baptist Church. The minister first removed from the sanctuary the Christian flag, next the American flag and then covered the plain cross on the wall with the piano cover before he began the worship service. That was some years ago now, but it left a lasting impression. The picture was my first clue together with history re-call which is better admittedly concerning the North then the South of the US
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News Item11/16/11 7:44 PM
Anna K | in the UK  Find all comments by Anna K
RP wrote:
Which in 1607 would have been the Anglican Church would it not? Or are you suggesting it was built by Separatists, or Puritan Congregationalists?
"While Virginians were largely loyal to the Church of England, the pilgrims in Plymouth repudiated the church and came to America to escape it. "

A reasonable expectation of what this dig may reveal.

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News Item11/16/11 7:29 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
Anna K wrote:
The church would be an English Protestant church.
Which in 1607 would have been the Anglican Church would it not? Or are you suggesting it was built by Separatists, or Puritan Congregationalists?
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News Item11/16/11 7:08 PM
Anna K | UK  Find all comments by Anna K
The church would be an English Protestant church.
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News Item11/16/11 8:44 AM
RP  Find all comments by RP
"The distinction is rooted in their origins. While Virginians were largely loyal to the Church of England, the pilgrims in Plymouth repudiated the church and came to America to escape it."

It is impossible to rightly understand what was happening in Virginia or Plymouth without understanding what was happening in the British Isles at the same time. It is also impossible to make generalized sweeping statements about what was going on in every local 'historical' assembly and rightly interpret it without a proper background. There have always been wheat and tares among those that came to the New World. Carried with them was the same historical Christianity and its struggles, that those who remained in the Isles continued to contend for? Their number were few in both cases. What they were facing in the wilderness to be made habitable & what they brought to it is related.

I have visited Plymouth Plantation and what I had learned from reading Cotton Matther's history, 'The Wonderful Works of Christ in America' and what was being acted as historical on site was not exactly the same thing. Actors were adding their own embellishment to their more humanist history sources. I left saddened by the perversion of truth in order to teach what was even then, more politically correc

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