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SATURDAY, NOV 5, 2011  |  35 comments  |  2 commentaries
Personhood movement aims for landmark win in Miss. election

After suffering disappointing losses in Colorado in 2008 and 2010, the pro-life community's young personhood movement is on the verge of what would be a landmark victory in Mississippi to define all human life as beginning at conception.

Even though voters there will go to the polls Tuesday to elect a new governor, political and cultural observers nationwide are watching to see if Mississippians pass Initiative Measure 26, a constitutional amendment that supporters say would end abortion in Mississippi -- and potentially do the same nationwide in a challenge to Roe v. Wade.

The idea is simple enough: amend the Mississippi constitution to define all life as beginning at conception, which would, supporters say, protect the unborn. The proposed 21-word amendment states: "The term 'person' or 'persons' shall include every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning or the functional ...


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Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
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News Item11/9/11 2:57 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, from an admitted liberal source, Mississippi rejects abortion amendment; ... which finishes this thread--as far as the main article that SA put up, is concerned.
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News Item11/9/11 2:03 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Dear Neutral, Time to wake up and join the rest of us... I spent many years witnessing in front of abortuaries, as well as couseling at the local CPC and I will swear before the Lord that Christians are aborting their children. In fact, abortion has scarred the lives of many in Christ. If you have no love for your neighbor, then how about for fellow believers? Sorry to be so harsh, but this truly is a life and death matter. Abort73.com has a T-shirt that says "Would it bother us more if they used guns?" I think that slogan pretty much sums it up.
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News Item11/9/11 1:02 PM
Neutral  Find all comments by Neutral
interseting wrote:
"Rachel weeps for her children are no more" in Mississippi.
There is a time for every purpose under heaven, there is much we do not know and what we know we know only in part. Rachel would not willingly participate in any of these evils you mention. These evils are not forced on people, they are a choice made by those who have no fear of God.
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News Item11/9/11 10:37 AM
interseting  Find all comments by interseting
If some Mississippians believe that African-Americans, Jews, the disabled, or those over 65 are non-persons, then they could place an initiative on the ballot and call for a general vote.

Eventually, a nation's majority could declare various minorities to not be persons. The U.S. did this with slavery and unborn children. Germany did this with the Jews (and others). The best way to subjugate or extinguish a people group is to democratically declare them non-persons.

"Rachel weeps for her children are no more" in Mississippi.

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News Item11/9/11 10:35 AM
Neutral  Find all comments by Neutral
Mike wrote:
1.Sounds properly spiritual. 2. So was it wrong biblically for Mississippi to put forth a constitutional amendment declaring personhood begins at conception, thus making abortion unlawful and preserving life? 3. Does man have a role in proclaiming God's Truth as
practice, or is it sufficient just to relay comfortable words about him being reigning Lord?
1. God's Word is spiritually discerned.

2. It is an inadequate solution to the underlying problem, sin. Neither playing on emotional sentiment nor making men's efforts God's final word on the matter really provides the solution to the underlying problem.

3. Proclaiming God's truth is the job of the ministry, living it and loving it is the duty of God's people. When there is unity of mind there is affection of love. This will cause others to be drawn to the proclamation of the gospel. It is the duty of state and federal government to enforce righteousness in this land. Are you absolutely sure that the change of this amendment will bring that to pass?

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News Item11/9/11 10:10 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
interesting wrote:
"A person's a person, no matter how small."
-Dr. Seuss (1954)
It's laughable that a state would need to vote on this universal truth.
Perhaps a black individual or a Jew is not a person. Shall Mississippi voters amend their constitution accordingly?
Didn't the 19th and 20th c. teach the world anything about "personhood"?
Does the Mississippi constitution actually say a black individual or a Jew is not a person?

Was the denial of personhood by a handful of government people (Roe v Wade) also laughable? If not, why is it laughable if a State vote to restore what was denied?

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News Item11/9/11 9:52 AM
Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
While Christians debate doctrine and look for areas to disagree, babies are torn apart in their mother's wombs because they might cost some money or time to their parents... Very sad. I strongly believe the pro-aborts aren't nearly as dangerous as apathetic christians. Perhaps a review of the Good Samaritan parable found in Scripture is needed.
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News Item11/9/11 8:36 AM
interesting  Find all comments by interesting
"A person's a person, no matter how small."
-Dr. Seuss (1954)

It's laughable that a state would need to vote on this universal truth.

Perhaps a black individual or a Jew is not a person. Shall Mississippi voters amend their constitution accordingly?

Didn't the 19th and 20th c. teach the world anything about "personhood"?

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News Item11/9/11 8:04 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Neutral wrote:
There is a difference between establishing this truth in law and The Truth by law. Since the Scriptures of both the Old anr New Testaments have clearly revealed David's son and David's LORD is King; "But unto the Son he saith, thy throne O God, is forever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniguity: therefore God even thy God,hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And thou Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" Heb. 1:8-10
The Truth reigns whether men choose to acknowledge it or not. Psalm 2 strongly admonishes leaders of nations to do so and not be unwise or uninstructed lest he be angry and they perish in the way, when his wrath is but kindled a little. Blessedness is trusting in this King.
Sounds properly spiritual. So was it wrong biblically for Mississippi to put forth a constitutional amendment declaring personhood begins at conception, thus making abortion unlawful and preserving life? Does man have a role in proclaiming God's Truth as practice, or is it sufficient just to relay comfortable words about him being reigning Lord?
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News Item11/9/11 3:31 AM
Neutral  Find all comments by Neutral
Mike wrote:
Why is it an either/or question? It is God who designed physical life beginning at conception. Would establishing this truth in law oppose what God has originated?
There is a difference between establishing this truth in law and The Truth by law. Since the Scriptures of both the Old anr New Testaments have clearly revealed David's son and David's LORD is King; "But unto the Son he saith, thy throne O God, is forever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniguity: therefore God even thy God,hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And thou Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" Heb. 1:8-10

The Truth reigns whether men choose to acknowledge it or not. Psalm 2 strongly admonishes leaders of nations to do so and not be unwise or uninstructed lest he be angry and they perish in the way, when his wrath is but kindled a little. Blessedness is trusting in this King.

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News Item11/8/11 10:52 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
WLOX is reporting the amendment failed - 59% precicts reporting in with 43% voting yes and 57% voting no. I've also received numerous reports of other states moving forward with personhood efforts; we'll just keep on working and praying to end prenatal child murder in America for God's glory.
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News Item11/8/11 8:13 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
RP wrote:
Do ammendments to state constitutions pass by a popular vote, it would seem that more is required? So your request was pray folks will get out to the polls or that God would end the practice of abortion as seems good to Him, that which would be for His glory and the good of His church, with submission and faith to His will?
Why is it an either/or question? It is God who designed physical life beginning at conception. Would establishing this truth in law oppose what God has originated?
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News Item11/8/11 7:26 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Pray for all RP has stated below.

Here's a link to watch the election results tonight:

Mississippi Election Results...
http://www.wlox.com/link/275969/november-8th-elect

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News Item11/8/11 4:10 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
Angela Wittman wrote:
Just a reminder for Christians to pray. The latest polls indicate this will be a narrow vote.
Do ammendments to state constitutions pass by a popular vote, it would seem that more is required? So your request was pray folks will get out to the polls or that God would end the practice of abortion as seems good to Him, that which would be for His glory and the good of His church, with submission and faith to His will?
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News Item11/8/11 11:12 AM
Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Just a reminder for Christians to pray. The latest polls indicate this will be a narrow vote.
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News Item11/6/11 6:42 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
Angela Wittman wrote:
Dear RP,
Hopefully someday you and I will become great friends as you are a sincere sister in the Lord... you.
Mrs. Wittman, we are not very well known to one another via these post it notes, but yes we have somethings in common that would draw to a friendship. The response I made was to the comment and i did not see your post until after I posted. The LORD has richly blest my day two psalms I sang this day sensibly Psalm 92 and 16.
"It is a good thing to give thanks unto the Lord and to sing praises unto thy name,O most high: to show forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night. " to this I say Amen for I appreciate the sense of His faithfulness and desire it to continue but sing I must. I can sing his praise because it is true even through tears of sorrow and because I know it sensibly by faith.
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News Item11/6/11 4:08 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Loyality to Christ always come first, and legalism should always be guarded against, Legalism is Shadow, Christ is Substance
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News Item11/6/11 3:59 PM
Angela Wittman | Southern Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Dear RP,
Hopefully someday you and I will become great friends as you are a sincere sister in the Lord... But I have found that following the "letter of the law" will sometimes quench the joy found in following the "spirit of the law." Just some food for thought... In other words, flexibility is sometimes needed. May the good Lord bless you.
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News Item11/6/11 2:45 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
Priestess wrote:
God established the priesthood of all believers. Beware of clericalism.
If God calls you to pray and fast and exhort others to do so then do.
I am aware of the dangers of separating brethren into catagories of clergy and laity. I am aware of what Peter taught in his epistle. But that is not to be divorced from what Paul taught in Ephes. 4. It is my understanding that the Spirit through the Scripture may lead an indvidual to fast and pray and possibly two or three others in unsettled times, but the normal call corporately comes from the elders in a settled state of he Church. It is my hope to see a more settled state of the visible Church in the not too distant future.
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