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FRONT PAGE  |  9/24/2017
WEDNESDAY, SEP 14, 2011  |  9 comments
Brazil charges church leaders with embezzling millions from poor
Three leading members of one of Brazil's most powerful churches have been accused of laundering millions in church donations and using worshippers' money for personal gain.

The charges, unveiled on Monday by São Paulo's public prosecutor, relate to 404m reals (£150m) allegedly obtained from mostly impoverished churchgoers by leaders at Brazil's Universal Church of the Kingdom of God.

The money was subsequently channelled out of the country via a network of offshore bank accounts and money changers, federal prosecutors claimed. ...


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News Item9/16/11 2:46 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Hmm, gentlemen! True Believers Stay the Course, or if you need some reading material, Marks of the True Believer.

Ok, Frank. In other words, we don't believe in homocide

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News Item9/15/11 3:39 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
ISM wrote:
However, when a "washed, sanctified & justified" and baptized Christian has an unrelenting same-sex attraction, and gives into it from time-to-time (sometimes weekly), is he unsaved?
I can't recall reading in scripture where God showed his displeasure on adultery by raining down fire and brimstone, and burning everyone to death, men, women and children alike, as he did with Sodom and all the cities of the plain, on account of sodomy, which is an abomination to God because of its evil perversion.
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News Item9/15/11 3:29 PM
ISM  Find all comments by ISM
"The church's preachers are also notorious for their open hostility towards Brazil's gay community ..."

100,000s of baptized soundly-saved Christians with unbiblical divorce and remarriage are weekly actively-engaged in adultery yet sit securely in the pew every Sunday.

However, when a "washed, sanctified & justified" and baptized Christian has an unrelenting same-sex attraction, and gives into it from time-to-time (sometimes weekly), is he unsaved?

Or may he likewise repent of his sin as do the multitudes of unbiblically remarried heterosexual baptized Christian active-adulterers who are communing members of churches?

Surely their "open hostility" could be turned to compassion.

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News Item9/15/11 3:11 PM
Frank | Clearwater, FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Well, good points, Frank, While I have not intention of using physical violence, etc. against homosexuals, If they remain in that condition and don't repent of it, someone much more important will "dislike" them, God will hate them, q.v., God Hates Sin, Hates Sinners.
Yes Jim I'm sure you and I agree on this issue. I really didn't word my original post well. The unsaved often say that if Christians are actively against homosexuality then they are hostile towards it; or homophobic. The word hostile carries a connotation that is not true for you and I. So the article associated these false con artists with Christianity and hostility towards gays and by inference real Christianity with hostility towards gays. It is like saying Christians were involved in the crusades and things like that; no Catholics were involved in the crusades. Yes, homosexuality is an abomination in God's eyes and He will in fact judge them in a hostile manner, but we don't. This probably doesn't make any sense either but I tried.
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News Item9/15/11 2:32 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Well, good points, Frank, While I have not intention of using physical violence, etc. against homosexuals, If they remain in that condition and don't repent of it, someone much more important will "dislike" them, God will hate them, q.v., God Hates Sin, Hates Sinners.
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News Item9/14/11 3:11 PM
Frank | Clearwater, FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Frank? The Bible Says Homosexuality is Sin, i.e.,
URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php>NASB
Christians aren't suppose to be overly fond of unrepentant thieves either. If my memory serves me correctly you most definitely believe in Combating Charismatic Theology.
Apparently these crooks do practice what they preach, however, readers make An Examination of the Word-faith Movement.
Jim? You should review some of my earlier posts regarding homosexuality.
I was simply saying that I am not homophobic in the sense that I have an "unreasonable" hatred for them. A homophobic operates outside of scripture, you and I don't. Phobic = adjective: suffering from irrational fears.

But I still love you like a brother. Sorry I didn't make my post clearer.

Yes, I am definitely against the Charismatic movement. But I am not Charisphobic.

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News Item9/14/11 2:33 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Frank? The Bible Says Homosexuality is Sin, i.e.,

1 Corinthians 6
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God.---NASB

Christians aren't suppose to be overly fond of unrepentant thieves either. If my memory serves me correctly you most definitely believe in Combating Charismatic Theology.

Apparently these crooks do practice what they preach, however, readers make An Examination of the Word-faith Movement.

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News Item9/14/11 1:32 PM
Quo Vadis  Find all comments by Quo Vadis
There is only one Universal Church of the Kingdom of God and that is the Catholic Church under the Holy See.

Brazil will always have the poor with them. The embezzled 404m reals should be returned to where it rightly belongs. Rome.

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News Item9/14/11 11:39 AM
Frank | Clearwater, FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Ah, the association is made!

The church's preachers are also notorious for their open hostility towards Brazil's gay community and African-Brazilian religions.

It is bad enough they call these folks Christians instead of con artists, but most secular minds will associate Christians with homophobia.

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