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TUESDAY, SEP 6, 2011  |  37 comments
Battle for the Bible Translation
At their annual summer convention, the Southern Baptists passed a resolution expressing "profound disappointment with Biblica and Zondervan Publishing House" for publishing the 2011 New International Version, concluding that "we cannot commend the 2011 NIV to Southern Baptists or the larger Christian community."

The resolution strikes us as divisive, shortsighted, and something that brings us, and no doubt the majority of the Christian community, profound disappointment.

To be fair, the resolution was not brought to the convention by the resolution committee, which wisely determined that the convention did not need to comment on the new translation. The resolution was the work of a single delegate, and only one other person spoke on its behalf. But no one on the convention floor spoke against it, and eyewitnesses say that up to 90 percent of the delegates raised their ballots to signal their ...


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News Item9/9/11 11:20 AM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
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Barry from KY | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY
Actually you drove by my house if you were on I-75. We are about 25 minutes north of Bourbon county. I really love living here. I was born and raised here actually. Left for a 6 year stint in the U.S. Army and came right back. I'm glad you had a good time. We are pretty rural down here but it's a good place to live and have kids. I have friends in Bourbon County, were you can't buy alcohol incidentally.
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News Item9/9/11 8:26 AM
PRO  Find all comments by PRO
The best-selling English Bible translation, the Authorized Version, is built on the Textus Receptus manuscript by Desiderius Erasmus, a Humanist Roman Catholic heretic. Since we don't trust modern Catholics, why would we entrust our Bible to one from 500 years ago?
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News Item9/9/11 8:25 AM
Lady_Virtue | OKC  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lady_Virtue
My testimony is similar to earlier ones others have shared. I, too, as a new Christian, was introduced to the NIV by the pastor of the independent Baptist church in which I was saved (he has since switched to the NASV). I was young in the faith and ignorant of the importance of this issue at the time.

I was quite a few years into my journey as a Christian when I finally learned that the NIV is NOT an accurate translation of the Bible because it is based on a corrupted text. Some mistranslations contained in it caused me to believe several false doctrines.

Only last year did God fully open my eyes to the truth and lead me to the King James Bible. I now read and study from it exclusively and have gotten rid of the false translations I previously owned (NIV, NLT).

God be praised!

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News Item9/9/11 8:01 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Barry from KY wrote:
Hey Mike in New York, I would never call you a liar, I was just disagreeing with you on that one point bro. I usually agree with about 95% of your post. I also respect your opinions!
Street-Preacher:
Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Ask yourself Street-Preacher, are you a stepping stone for the Kingdom, or a stumbling block!!!
Hi Barry, we spent a few days in your fair State this past Spring. The Carter Caves area, then drove through Bourbon County. Rained a lot, but we had a nice time. My wife had never been in Ky, so I thought she might like it, and she did. Horse country is exceptionaly pretty. You live anywhere near where we were?
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News Item9/9/11 7:22 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY
Hey Mike in New York, I would never call you a liar, I was just disagreeing with you on that one point bro. I usually agree with about 95% of your post. I also respect your opinions!

Street-Preacher:
Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Ask yourself Street-Preacher, are you a stepping stone for the Kingdom, or a stumbling block!!!

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News Item9/8/11 7:17 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Street-Preacher wrote:
Since GOD Said:
"FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..." 1 TIMOTHY 6:10
And, "mike/new york" said:
"No it ain't."
Therefore, "LET GOD BE TRUE, BUT EVERY MAN (Including 'mike/new york') A LIAR..." ROMANS 3:4
So:
"mike/new york" Is A LIAR !
---
**BECAUSE THE LOVE OF MONEY IS, I REPEAT IS, THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL !
Now, Since "mike/new york" Is A LIAR;
And GOD SAYS:
"ALL LIARS, SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE: WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH...We Can RIGHTFULLY, RIGHTEOUSLY & JUSTIFIABLY SAY, AFFIRM & ATTEST THAT "mike/new york" IS GOING TO HELL, HELL-FIRE & THE ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE & BRIMSTONE: WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH--IF HE DOESN'T REPENT;
PUBLICLY & PRIVATELY REPENT:
OF his HELL-DESERVING SIN OF BEING A LIAR; AND "MAKING" GOD OUT TO BE A "LIAR" In "mike/new york" Saying, Implying, Inferring Or Otherwise Assuming That "The Love Of Money Is Not The Root Of All Evil"; Because
GOD, VIA THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+HOLY+BIBLE SAYS:
"FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..." 1 TIMOTHY 6:10
"mike/new york": REPENT NOW OR ETERNALLY BURN FOREVER !
1 Peter 2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,..
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News Item9/8/11 6:03 PM
kenny | marietta, georgia  Find all comments by kenny
Jim is right about one thing (believe it or not): Bible publishers like Thomas Nelson, Zondervan and others do make a LOT of money (profit) publishing the KJV.

That's why Christians should choose to buy their KJV Bibles from non-profit church ministries like Bearing Precious Seed and non-profit ministries like the Trinitarian Bible Society. I buy all of my Bibles from TBS because I know that they put whatever profit they make into providing Bibles for believers around the world who can't afford them.

One of the worst things to happen to the modern church was when the church turned publishing God's Word over to the world (Nelson, Zondervan, etc.) only to have the world turn around & sell Bibles back to Christians (for profit!). That's one of the main reasons why we have such a hodge-podge of perverted 'Bibles' from the Alexandrian stream like Jim's NASB and the NIV.

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News Item9/8/11 3:15 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
Since GOD Said:

"FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..." 1 TIMOTHY 6:10

And, "mike/new york" said:

"No it ain't."

Therefore, "LET GOD BE TRUE, BUT EVERY MAN (Including 'mike/new york') A LIAR..." ROMANS 3:4

So:

"mike/new york" Is A LIAR !

&

ALMIGHTY GOD IS ALWAYS & FOREVER TRUE IN SAYING:

"FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..." 1 TIMOTHY 6:10

**BECAUSE THE LOVE OF MONEY IS, I REPEAT IS, THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL !

Now, Since "mike/new york" Is A LIAR;

And GOD SAYS:

"ALL LIARS, SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE: WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH."--REVELATION 21:8h-j

We Can RIGHTFULLY, RIGHTEOUSLY & JUSTIFIABLY SAY, AFFIRM & ATTEST THAT "mike/new york" IS GOING TO HELL, HELL-FIRE & THE ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE & BRIMSTONE: WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH--IF HE DOESN'T REPENT;

PUBLICLY & PRIVATELY REPENT:

OF his HELL-DESERVING SIN OF BEING A LIAR; AND "MAKING" GOD OUT TO BE A "LIAR" In "mike/new york" Saying, Implying, Inferring Or Otherwise Assuming That "The Love Of Money Is Not The Root Of All Evil"; Because

GOD, VIA THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+HOLY+BIBLE SAYS:

"FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..." 1 TIMOTHY 6:10

"mike/new york": REPENT NOW OR ETERNALLY BURN FOREVER !

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News Item9/8/11 2:06 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
What Bible publishers make a mint off of, is publishing the KJV. They don't have to pay any royalties on that version.

Proper texts? John MacArthur, did what I would call a very polite overview of that topic (He doesn't read like James White at all, ), The Biblical Position on The KJV Controversy.

The KJV translators were rewarded lavishly for their work, perhaps more than any translators after that time, a worker is worthy of his hire, so I have no problem with translators making a fair wage.

I will suppose some people will always prefer the KJV, that's their personal choice, but there is a logical means of picking a Bible translation, and that is why I would suggest you read the entire article, Comparing Bible Translations. Dr. Wallace had a comment on, Why So Many Versions?. He himself contributed to the over proliferation of Bibles with the NET, the most valuable thing about it are the huge number of translators notes, but it came out as a liberal translation.Isaiah 7:14[/U

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News Item9/7/11 8:08 PM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

No matter how you slice it mike, God warns against the love of money. Jesus had lots to say about it. It is also the motivation behind printing all these different bible versions.

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News Item9/7/11 6:49 PM
dominic shiells | hemel.hempstead, uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by dominic shiells
You think the new niv is the only dodgy version out we have the voice , the emergant church version edited by Brian mclaren and the common English bible a multifaith,ecumenical bible
Then there are other bibles like nt wrights new testament and the.truth. which I know little about
It is open season on gods word.we need to stand up for the right Greek texts and translators and methods
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News Item9/7/11 4:43 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Street-Preacher wrote:
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FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL:...
No it ain't.
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News Item9/7/11 3:12 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
*Observe THE HISTORIC+AUTHORIZED+ENGLISH+HOLY+BIBLE:

"Now THE (HOLY) SPIRIT Speaketh EXPRESSLY, That In THE LATTER TIMES Some (Like 'jim lincoln') Shall DEPART From THE FAITH, Giving HEED To SEDUCING SPIRITS, And DOCTRINES Of DEVILS;

Speaking LIES In HYPOCRISY; Having Their CONSCIENCE SEARED With A HOT IRON;

Forbidding To Marry, And Commanding To Abstain From Meats, Which GOD Hath Created To Be Received With Thanksgiving Of Them Which BELIEVE And KNOW THE TRUTH..." 1 TIMOTHY 4

"But There Were False Prophets Also Among The (Jewish) People, Even As There Shall Be FALSE TEACHERS (Like 'jim lincoln') Among YOU (SAINTS) Who Privily Shall Bring In DAMNABLE HERESIES, Even Denying THE LORD (& HIS ETERNALLY PRESERVED WORD) That Bought Them, And Bring Upon THEMSELVES SWIFT DESTRUCTION.

And MANY Shall Follow THEIR PERNICIOUS WAYS; BY REASON OF WHOM THE WAY OF TRUTH (AS REVEALED IN THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED+HOLY+BIBLE) SHALL BE EVIL SPOKEN OF (By APOSTATES & HERETICS Like 'jim lincoln').

And Through Covetou$ne$$ $hall They With FEIGNED WORD$ Make MERCHANDI$E OF YOU: WHO$E JUDGEMENT NOW OF A LONG TIME LINGERETH NOT, AND THEIR DAMNATION $LUMBERETH NOT.

FOR IF GOD $PARED NOT THE ANGEL$ THAT $INNED, BUT CA$T THEM DOWN TO HELL, AND DELIVERED THEM INTO CHAIN$..." 2 PETER 2:1-4 !

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News Item9/7/11 3:10 PM
TS  Find all comments by TS
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Doug Kutilek wrote:
And I could write at length of the KJV's fourfold reference to the Holy Spirit, Third Person of the Trinity, as "it" (John 1:32; Romans 8:16, 26; I Peter 1:11), which in my opinion comes little short, if indeed it comes short at all, of blasphemy.
Ah Jim; You poor Biblically depleted fellow. You need to get a theologian who knows english grammar.

"IT"
18th century dictionary::
"IT is used absolutely for the state of a person or affair."
"IT is sometimes used of the first or second person."

Modern Dictionary::
"it -used to represent a person or animal understood, previously mentioned, or about to be mentioned whose gender is unknown or DISREGARDED)"

As you can Learn Jim here on SermonAudio (we will help you) The King James Version used by the Lord effectively for four centuries is the Word of God and is grammatically correct too.

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News Item9/7/11 3:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
SP, as white racist, how much do I or many other care for your opinions, nada! nothing, Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists. What's more you are apparently attacking your own pastor, but what is to be expected.

Want to make sure you don't go to a church that Tony (SP, TLC, Cisneros (sp?)) goes to in the Chicago/Hammond area, but do you want to associate with Christians try, Christian Fellowship Church

Collosians 3
6 For it is on account of these things that the wrath of God will come,
7 and in them you also once walked, when you were living in them.
8 But now you also, put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth.
9 Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices,
10 and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him
11 --a renewal in which there is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.---NASB

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News Item9/7/11 2:45 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED+HOLY+BIBLE ALSO Forsaw THE APOSTATE-HERETICAL PERVERTERS, LIKE "jim lincoln", OF THE HISTORICALLY PRESERVED WORD OF GOD About 2,000 Yrs Ago Via THE WORDS Of APOSTLE PAUL:

"If ANY Man Teach OTHERWISE, And Consent NOT To WHOLESOME WORDS, Even THE WORDS Of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, And To THE DOCTRINE Which Is ACCORDING To GODLINESS;

He Is Proud, Knowing NOTHING, But Doting About Questions And Strifes Of Words, Whereof Cometh Envy, Strife, Railings, Evil Surmisings,

Perverse Disputings Of MEN OF CORRUPT MINDS, AND DESTITUTE OF THE TRUTH, SUPPOSING THAT GAIN ($$$) IS GODLINESS: FROM SUCH WITHDRAW THYSELF...

FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL: WHICH WHILE SOME COVETED AFTER, THEY HAVE ERRED FROM THE FAITH, AND PIERCED THEMSELVES THROUGH WITH MANY SORROWS.

BUT THOU, O MAN OF GOD, FLEE THESE THINGS..." 1 TIMOTHY 6:3-21

**THOSE DEVILS LUST MONEY TOO !

WHAT DISTURBS ME MOST IS THAT "PROFESSING" CHRISTIANS & EVEN GENUINE, REAL & TRUE CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN CARRIED AWAY WITH THESE DEVILS' DISSIMULATION !

TRUELY, THE LOVE & LUST OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL;

BECAUSE, IT STRIKES AT THE VERY PRESERVED WRITTEN WORD OF GOD: AS MANIFESTED IN MURDOCK'S PUSHING-PIMPING HIS FAKE-FALSE-PHONY NIV-2011 PER-VERSION !

**LUST-$$$ = LUST-666 !

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News Item9/7/11 2:42 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, yes, white supremacists love the AV, e.g., Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists or Mormons. I would think that you could get good information about Bibles, from, Christian Fellowship Church, for those who live in the Chicago/Hammond area. Even the pastor of SP's Church--
Jack Schaap (Pastor 1st Baptist, Hammond wrote:
For one to believe that God inspired the King James Version of the Bible, he would be espousing Catholic or charismatic theology. Both groups theologically believe that God can and does still "speak" today, either though the papal office "ex cathedra," or by way of a "a word of knowledge," supposedly used to more perfectly and accurately pronounce and define God's will for man. Kindly put, that theological position is heresy to those of us who believe that the Words of Scripture were ended with the completion of John's finished manuscript of The revelation approximately 95-100 A.D.
excerpt from, "Where are We Going?" By the way, those interested in Biblical accuracy read, Comparing Bible Translations--Conclusions[/
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News Item9/7/11 2:26 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
"Chris Perver": I'm "Hip", Er, AMEN !

THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED+HOLY+BIBLE Forsaw What You Said About 2,000 Years Ago Via These WORDS Of THE APOSTLE PAUL:

"If ANY Man Teach OTHERWISE, And Consent NOT To WHOLESOME WORDS, Even THE WORDS Of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, And To THE DOCTRINE Which Is ACCORDING To GODLINESS;

He Is Proud, Knowing NOTHING, But Doting About Questions And Strifes Of Words, Whereof Cometh Envy, Strife, Railings, Evil Surmisings,

Perverse Disputings Of MEN OF CORRUPT MINDS, AND DESTITUTE OF THE TRUTH, SUPPOSING THAT GAIN ($$$) IS GODLINESS: FROM SUCH WITHDRAW THYSELF...

FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL: WHICH WHILE SOME COVETED AFTER, THEY HAVE ERRED FROM THE FAITH, AND PIERCED THEMSELVES THROUGH WITH MANY SORROWS.

BUT THOU, O MAN OF GOD, FLEE THESE THINGS..." 1 TIMOTHY 6:3-21

**THOSE DEVILS LUST MONEY TOO !

WHAT DISTURBS ME MOST IS THAT "PROFESSING" CHRISTIANS & EVEN GENUINE, REAL & TRUE CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN CARRIED AWAY WITH THESE DEVILS' DISSIMULATION(S) !

TRUELY, THE LOVE & LUST OF MONEY IS, I REPEAT IS, THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL;

BECAUSE IT STRIKES AT THE VERY WORD OF ALMIGHT GOD: AS MANIFESTED IN MURDOCK'S PUSHING-PIMPING HIS FALSE-FAKE-PHONEY NIV-2011 PER-VERSION:

FOR THE LOVE & LU$T OF MONEY !

*LOVE-$$$ = LOVE-666 !

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News Item9/7/11 2:10 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Chris Perver wrote:
That's why they dropped the NIV 1984, so that people would be forced to change. They didn't do that with the TNIV, and it was a disaster. They didn't tell anybody the NIV was changing this time, so nobody knows the new ones are different, and won't be put off buying it. Whole churches are going to have to change all their NIV bibles just so everybody is reading from the same book. It's one big money making racket.
Precisely!
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