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WEDNESDAY, JUL 27, 2011  |  21 comments
O'Reilly Blasts Media for Branding Norwegian Terror Suspect a 'Christian Extremist'
BILL O'REILLY, FOX NEWS HOST: "Impact" segment tonight: mass murder in Norway. A vicious killer, Anders Breivik, has murdered at least 76 people in the Scandinavian nation of Norway. Breivik is a brutal fanatic who apparently objects to the presence of Muslims in Europe.

Last Friday he bombed buildings in Oslo and then took an automatic weapon to an island a few miles away gunning down 68 people. Norwegian authorities couldn't get to the island because they didn't have a helicopter, if you can believe it.

Now, on Sunday, the "New York Times" headlined "As Horrors Emerged, Norway Charges Christian extremist". A number of other news organizations like the "LA Times" and Reuters also played up the Christian angle. But Breivik is not a Christian. That's impossible. No one believing in Jesus commits mass murder. The man might have called himself a Christian on the net, but he is certainly not of that ...


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News Item7/30/11 11:14 PM
unworthy servant | Atlanta  Find all comments by unworthy servant
not sure how this discussion about whether or not the terrorist was a self-proclaimed Christian got focused on Bill O'Reilly's catholicism, however to quote the terrorist himself,
"As this is a cultural war, our definition of being a Christian does not necessarily constitute that you are required to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus," he writes. "Being a Christian can mean many things; That you believe in and want to protect Europe's Christian cultural heritage."

Read more: Terrorist proclaimed himself 'Darwinian,' not 'Christian' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=325765#ixzz1TeGzVHZl

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News Item7/27/11 9:14 PM
Dan | Tennessee  Find all comments by Dan
NTB,

Please paste this into your browser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A5RKK4vYok
and listen to the first 50 seconds and you'll hear Bill O refer to himself as a Roman Catholic.

Also, you miss the point (maybe intentionally) when you refer to a "Christian minister, whether Catholic or Protestant" !! There is no Christian minister who is Roman Catholic.

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News Item7/27/11 4:26 PM
Bibliophile  Find all comments by Bibliophile
Garrett wrote:
I've heard kings james was a homosexual. Can someone prove this right? Wrong?
False accusation.

He apparently lovingly cohabitated with his wife (an unusual practice for a 16th Century UK king, who often had concubines living with him while his wife lived miles away in another castle) and produced 8 children, 3 surviving.

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News Item7/27/11 4:21 PM
Garrett | SD, California  Find all comments by Garrett
I've heard kings james was a homosexual. Can someone prove this right? Wrong?
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News Item7/27/11 3:16 PM
Rasle  Find all comments by Rasle
Bibliophile wrote:
what does your point have to do with Anders Breivik being a "Christian Extremist"?
Bibliophile
Your original post below quoted the verse which I illustrated is translated differently by the Word of God, King James Version.

Also on this thread we have been discussing the sad and sorry fact that Bill O'Reilly (Fox) is a Roman Catholic heretic.

My post reveals how we genuine Bible Christians take the Word of God as truth and believe the law, precepts and doctrines which God has recorded therein. This demonstrates how the Roman Catholic church adds (tradition) to the Word of God and subtracts from the Word of God, establishing heretical reason and purpose for their idolatry and blasphemy.

As for Breivik he, [like the papist] is on the terrible road to hell, - UNLESS God converts either to the truth in Scripture.

You really need to leave the idolatry of Rome and go to a Christian Church.

"9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor **IDOLATERS,** nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." 1Cor 6.

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News Item7/27/11 1:53 PM
Frank | Clearwater, FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
SteveR wrote:
Frank,
btw:I encourage you consider the arguments of the Credo and Padeo baptists as both have sound arguments. The issue is highly sacramental and divisive for many, and neither side can claim victory.

Okay, SteveR I am going to say this another way. The difference between RC and Christianity is not simply sacramental as you are implying by using the examples of the Credo and Padeo Baptists in the same sentence with them, although I have to admit I still haven't researched them. The RC have reinvented the cross of Christ and what it means to be saved by grace. Their religion is cultic and there is no element of saving grace in their doctrines. Additionally you said:

How pure was the doctrine of Bartimaeus, those mentioned in Hebrews 11 or even the saved malefactor on the Cross? Why do you bring condemnation on yourself with these railing accusations?

The above has a semblance of truth unless someone understands what you are saying. Scripture does not say those folks rejected the truth. All Christians grow in their faith they don't grow in heresy. To say that because we don't have all the answers does not mean we don't have some of the answers. The emergent church uses your thought to deconstruct all truth.
Thanks again!!

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News Item7/27/11 1:02 PM
Bibliophile  Find all comments by Bibliophile
Rasle wrote:
King James Version;
1Cor 11:2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances παράδοσις, as I delivered them to you.
The Bible Christian takes Paul at his word thus - "as I delivered them to you."
"WE" Do not try to change the Bible in the name of a locally manufactured "tradition" by post Bible sinners.
"WE" stick to what GOD wrote!!
Original Word: παράδοσις, εως, ἡ

Strong's Number:
3862 par√°dosis (from 3844 /par√°, "from close-beside" and 1325 /d√≠dōmi, "give over") ‚Äď properly, give (hand over) from close-beside, referring to tradition as passed on from one generation to the next.

Although, what does your point have to do with Anders Breivik being a "Christian Extremist"?

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News Item7/27/11 12:05 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Frank,
For RCC apologists to consider my words ammunition for the benefit of the RCC only magnifies the error of their traditions against the truth of the Unity Of Gods People.

btw:I encourage you consider the arguments of the Credo and Padeo baptists as both have sound arguments. The issue is highly sacramental and divisive for many, and neither side can claim victory. I feel the Lord has allowed this division in the Reformed Church to be a humbling indication that we dont have all the answers

Frank wrote:
Thanks for your response! I don't or at least try not to condemn anyone. But, I don't know anything about the theology of the Padeobaptists or Credobaptists. However, I am to be discerning and to warn and reprove those who are need to be warned and reproved. With that said, I would tell RCs that they should come out of the cult they are in and would never simply say that a cult was less honorable than a genuine church of Christ. All I am asking is that you consider what you are saying. You are giving ammunition to those wannabe Catholic apologists on this board; whether you understand that or not.
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News Item7/27/11 11:50 AM
Frank | Clearwater, FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
SteveR wrote:
Frank,
Do you want to condemn the Padeobaptists or Credobaptists too? Or just those who misunderstand other areas of Scripture?
To answer your question, I do encourage RCC members to consider a more honorable Church to worship in.
Thanks for your response! I don't or at least try not to condemn anyone. But, I don't know anything about the theology of the Padeobaptists or Credobaptists. However, I am to be discerning and to warn and reprove those who are need to be warned and reproved. With that said, I would tell RCs that they should come out of the cult they are in and would never simply say that a cult was less honorable than a genuine church of Christ. All I am asking is that you consider what you are saying. You are giving ammunition to those wannabe Catholic apologists on this board; whether you understand that or not.
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News Item7/27/11 11:18 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Frank,
Do you want to condemn the Padeobaptists or Credobaptists too? Or just those who misunderstand other areas of Scripture?

To answer your question, I do encourage RCC members to consider a more honorable Church to worship in.

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News Item7/27/11 11:07 AM
Rasle  Find all comments by Rasle
Bibliophile wrote:
"Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you."
-1 Cor 11:2
King James Version;
1Cor 11:2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

The Bible Christian takes Paul at his word thus - "as I delivered them to you."

"WE" Do not try to change the Bible in the name of a locally manufactured "tradition" by post Bible sinners.

"WE" stick to what GOD wrote!!

YOUR organisation has added to and taken from Scripture in the name of YOUR tradition!!

"18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Rev 22.

Bibliophile watch out for the plagues predicted.

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News Item7/27/11 11:02 AM
Frank | Clearwater, FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
SteveR wrote:
Even as an ardent Calvinist, I can recognize many Catholics are Christian despite what their Church teaches.
How pure was the doctrine of Bartimaeus, those mentioned in Hebrews 11 or even the saved malefactor on the Cross? Why do you bring condemnation on yourself with these railing accusations?
Well, if you can recognize them, then are you telling them to leave the Catholic church? Genuine Christianity doesn't encourage or accept false religious groups do they? To say they probably or could exist is one thing, to say they "do" exist or that we can "recognize" them is quite another thing. I am simply to go by their fruits, to include what they profess with the mouths.

I agree with those of you who have said that it really doesn't make any difference what O'reilly says since he understands RC and continues to practice it. Rasle is pushing this point and good for him. It would have been nice (not a spiritual thing) to hear O'Reilly then conclude that those who participated in the many inquisitions could not be Christians, to include the Pope who sent them. But that would have been impossible since they worship man and the traditions of men!

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News Item7/27/11 10:45 AM
Bibliophile  Find all comments by Bibliophile
Rasle wrote:
The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the Bible AND TRADITION as interpreted by the Church are the final seat of authority in religion. JESUS CONDEMNED tradition as a rule for religious authority...
If so, Jesus and his Apostle Paul are in disagreement:

"Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you."

-1 Cor 11:2

Who has heard and retained these extra-biblical traditions from the Apostle Paul, but St. Peter and his successors?

How would the National Norwegian Church, the Lutheran Church, even know these traditions unless they borrowed them from St. Peter's Church, the RCC?

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News Item7/27/11 10:45 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Even as an ardent Calvinist, I can recognize many Catholics are Christian despite what their Church teaches.

How pure was the doctrine of Bartimaeus, those mentioned in Hebrews 11 or even the saved malefactor on the Cross? Why do you bring condemnation on yourself with these railing accusations?


Rasle wrote:
The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the Bible AND TRADITION as interpreted by the Church are the final seat of authority in religion. JESUS CONDEMNED tradition as a rule for religious authority and exalted the Word of God:
“The Pharisees and Scribes asked him - Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you HYPOCRITES, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, YE HOLD THE TRADITION OF MEN, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well YE REJECT the commandment of God, that YE MAY KEEP YOUR OWN TRADITION." Mk7:5FF
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News Item7/27/11 10:30 AM
Rasle  Find all comments by Rasle
SteveR wrote:
To claim that Roman Catholics are not Christian is most absurd.
Whilst we may agree with Bill O'Reilly saying quote; "Yet, once again the liberal media wants you to fear Christian terrorists..." - IS O'Reilly a true Christian??

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the Bible AND TRADITION as interpreted by the Church are the final seat of authority in religion. JESUS CONDEMNED tradition as a rule for religious authority and exalted the Word of God:

“The Pharisees and Scribes asked him - Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you HYPOCRITES, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, YE HOLD THE TRADITION OF MEN, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well YE REJECT the commandment of God, that YE MAY KEEP YOUR OWN TRADITION." Mk7:5FF

As Bible believing Christians we must correct and teach the Roman Catholics the truth - Sola Scriptura!!!

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News Item7/27/11 9:30 AM
NTB  Find all comments by NTB
Dan wrote:
O'Reilly says "Breivik is not a Christian" but don't forget that he's not either since he's a Roman Catholic. Just a reminder.
Though a baptized Lutheran he wasn't practicing.

He is not a fully-communing Catholic by any stretch of the imagination.

In fact, there's no Christian minister, whether Catholic or Protestant, who even admits to knowing him.

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News Item7/27/11 9:16 AM
wes  Find all comments by wes
SteveR wrote:
To claim that Roman Catholics are not Christian is most absurd.
Roman Catholics follow the antichrist!
Therefore they are antichristian!
You can't get less Christian than that!
_______

""A number of other news organizations like the "LA Times" and Reuters also played up the Christian angle. But Breivik is not a Christian""

It should be no surprise that Satan's followers fight back especially in their ignorance, a tool which Satan uses a lot both in the church and in the world.

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News Item7/27/11 7:51 AM
Pam O | wisconsin  Find all comments by Pam O
Thank God O'Reilly spoke this. Every single word he said was true! Even though Breivik is labeled a Christian ny the media--held NOT a Christian. A Christian would not murder. This is just the media's way of making Christianity look bad or foolish.
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News Item7/27/11 7:45 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Dan,

To claim that Roman Catholics are not Christian is most absurd.

[AUTHOR]Dan[/AUTHOR]O'Reilly says "Breivik is not a Christian" but don't forget that he's not either since he's a Roman Catholic. Just a reminder.[/QUOTE]

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News Item7/27/11 7:41 AM
Pam O | wisconsin  Find all comments by Pam O
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