Campus Crusade for Christ International (CCCI) is embarking on a nine-month mission to change its name to Cru, years after its founder, Bill Bright, wondered whether the evangelistic ministry should alter the brand.
"There will be any number of people who will say, 'Finally, it's about time you changed your name.' On the other extreme, there might be people who have been part of the ministry who think, 'Oh, you've gone liberal. You've changed your mission,'" Sellers said. "We don't shy away from our desire to communicate the gospel."
Campus Crusade is not the first organization to distance itself from the term. In 2000, Wheaton College removed its Crusader mascot and eventually became the Thunder. Only this year, the school unveiled a physical mascot, "Stertorous 'Tor' Thunder," a 2-person mastodon costume weighing 99 pounds (the largest mascot in the NCAA). In 2002, evangelist Billy Graham...
I'm Not Screaming, I'm Emphasizing, But If You Want To THINK I'm Screaming; So Be It--I Can't Control Your THINKING !
& EVEN If I WAS "CRY(ING) ALOUD..." I'M BEING OBEDIENT TO GOD & HIS COMMAND !
EVIDENTLY, YOU'VE NOT READ THE BIBLE-BASED GOSPEL-TRACT GOD PUBLISHED VIA "THE YOUNG BIBLE CRUSADERS OF AMERICA-(c)1978" ENTITLED "YOU" [REPRINTED (c)2011 THE AUTHORIZED BIBLE SOCIETY]:
"YOU...MUST BE BORN AGAIN--JOHN 3:7
WARNING: DO NOT READ THIS BOOKLET IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHO YOU REALLY ARE !-THE AUTHOR - PG.4
YOUR SPIRIT IS THE SPIRITUAL PART, AND WAS MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.
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"And GOD Said, Let US Make Man In OUR Image, After OUR Likeness:" Genesis 1:26a
"GOD IS A SPIRIT;" JOHN 4:24a
"So GOD Created man In HIS Own Image, In The Image Of GOD Created HE Him;" Genesis 1:27a _
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YOUR SPIRIT WAS CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD IN THAT YOU, LIKE GOD, ARE AN INFINITE, ETERNAL, NON-DYING, EVERLASTING, EVER-EXISTING SPIRIT.
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"Before The Mountains Were Brought Forth, Or Ever Thou Hadst Formed The Earth And The World, Even From Everlasting To Everlasting, Thou Art GOD." PSALM 90:2
"Adam, Which Was (Created In The Image) Of GOD." LUKE 3:38b - PG.6
YOUR BODY WAS BORN INTO THIS WORLD IN THE STATE OF GRADUAL DEATH (AGING)... "
I'm Not Screaming, I'm Emphasizing, But If You Want To THINK I'm Screaming; So Be It--I Can't Control Your THINKING !
& EVEN If I WAS "CRY(ING) ALOUD..." I'M BEING OBEDIENT TO GOD & HIS COMMAND !
EVIDENTLY, YOU'VE NOT READ THE BIBLE-BASED GOSPEL-TRACT GOD PUBLISHED VIA "THE YOUNG BIBLE CRUSADERS OF AMERICA-(c)1978" ENTITLED "YOU" [REPRINTED (c)2011 THE AUTHORIZED BIBLE SOCIETY]:
"YOU...MUST BE BORN AGAIN--JOHN 3:7
WARNING: DO NOT READ THIS BOOKLET IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHO YOU REALLY ARE !-THE AUTHOR -
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YOU ARE MADE UP OF THREE *(3) PARTS:
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(1) A BODY (2) A SOUL (3) A SPIRIT
*See Genesis 2:7 & 1 Thessalonians 5:23 In The Authorized "King James" Version Of THE HOLY BIBLE. -
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YOUR BODY IS THE PHYSICAL PART, AND WAS CREATED OUT OF THE DUST OF THE GROUND.
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"And The Lord GOD Formed man Of The Dust Of The Ground..." Genesis 2:7a
"The First Man (Adam) Is Of The Earth, Earthy;" 1 Corinthians 15:47a -
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YOUR SOUL IS THE MENTAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL PART; THIS INCLUDES YOUR MIND, HEART & WILL.
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"...And Breathed Into His Nostrils The Breath Of Life; And Man Became A Living Soul." Genesis 2:7b
"The First Man Adam Was Made A Living Soul." 1 Corinthians 15:45b -
I'm Not Screaming, I'm Emphasizing, But If You Want To THINK I'm Screaming; So Be It--I Can't Control Your THINKING !
& EVEN If I WAS "CRY(ING) ALOUD, SPAR[ING] NOT, LIFT(ING) UP [MY] VOICE LIKE A TRUMPET, AND SHOW(ING) [GOD'S] PEOPLE THEIR TRANSGRESSION, AND THE HOUSE OF JACOB THEIR SINS." I AM BEING OBEDIENT TO GOD & HIS COMMAND !
EVIDENTLY, YOU'VE NOT READ THE BIBLE-BASED GOSPEL-TRACT GOD PUBLISHED VIA "THE YOUNG BIBLE CRUSADERS OF AMERICA-(c)1978" ENTITLED "YOU":
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"YOU WERE BORN INTO THIS WORLD AS A CHILD OF THE DEVIL, NOT AS A CHILD OF GOD; AND WILL GO STRAIGHT TO HELL-FIRE WHEN YOU DIE PHYSICALLY BECAUSE OF SIN.
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'And You...Were (Born) By Nature THE CHILDREN OF WRATH (HELL-FIRE), Even As (BILLIONS OF) Others.' Ephesians 2:3c
'Whosoever Committeth Sin Is Of THE DEVIL; For THE DEVIL Sinneth From The Beginning.' 1 John 3:8a
'YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO.' JOHN 8:44a " _
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"YOU, YOUR SPIRIT, MUST BE BORN AGAIN IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BECOME A CHILD OF GOD; ESCAPE THE FLAMES OF HELL FIRE: AND GO STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU PHYSICALLY DIE BECAUSE OF SIN.
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'VERILY, VERILY I (JESUS [GOD]) SAY UNTO THEE, EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' JOHN 3:3..." !
For clarification, when you type in all-caps and use exclamation points in typing (especially as much as you do), it comes across as "yelling" which is why I accused you of that. If that is indeed what you are not doing, then I do apologize for that (per the first post I put in reply to you), but you need to know that typing that way is how it comes across (at least to me). Are you saying that you DID indeed quote 1 Kings 18:21 in context? That you are accusing me of being a prophet of Baal? How do you even have enough information to accuse me of that, seeing I have barely even talked to you at all? And now I am a "Jesuit?" How do you even know this? And I am demon-possessed? Why will you not answered the questions posed to you? I take your latest response as a seriously disjointed, logically incoherent rambling that seems more interested in attacking me and tearing me down than actually giving a reason for the positions you seem to hold. You seem only interested in hearing yourself and I take your lack of response to the questions as an inability to biblically respond, and I am done trying to reason with an unreasonable person. I can say this for sure, you do NOT sound like a servant of the Triune God. I will be praying for you...
Street-Preacher, the fact that you would quote 1 Kings 18:21 towards me when I am trying to express that I am fearful that I sinfully spoke too quickly and am trying to respect you is truly astounding for someone who has been doing "Gospel ministry" for so many years. With all respect, is this the way that you quote texts: out of context in an attacking manner towards those who ask you questions for clarification? I mean, do you honestly think that your reply in anyway reflects a gentle spirit that Christians are to exhibit towards other Christians? Unless, of course, you are accusing me of not being a Christian, which you have NO basis for, for you have asked NO questions of me for clarification and you have NO basis for judging me that way, which I think is what is meant by your pseudo-question, "Maybe That's Your Problem," and then through a litany of charges against me that I may have all kinds of "spirits." (but not the Holy Spirit, is that what you are getting at?) You know what, sir, you are offensive and it isn't because of the cross like you are supposed to be. How about, "Thank you for your apology and I do forgive you because I am a sinner saved by Jesus Christ the God Almighty's grace?" If you aren't going to answer the questions, then this is done.
thewaypa wrote: Street-Preacher, I do confess that my language was harsh due to speaking too quickly about you and my attitude stank and I was acting on emotions and was offended by your post (and not offended I don't think
"thewaypa": Make Up Your Mind. You Were/Are Either "offended" OR You Were/Are "not offended" !
As The Old Testament Prophet Elijah Said: "How Long Halt Ye Between Two Opinions ?" 1 Kings 18:21c
Maybe That's Your Problem, Maybe You've Got A "Lukewarm" Spirit, A "Compromising" Spirit, An "Ahab" Spirit, A "New-Evangelical" Spirit, A "Pseudo-Fundamentalist" Spirit, An "Undecisive" Spirit--An "Unstable" Spirit ?
You've ALREADY Confessed That YOUR "language was harsh"--Something That You're FALSELY Accusing Me Of (At Least FALSELY Accusing Me Of Speaking-Writing With UNJUSTIFIABLE HARSHNESS) !
You Say It Was "due to speaking too quickly about [me]"--Something You, No Doubt, Are ALSO Falsely Accusing Me Of (In Your Heart); As Speaking Toward Others &-Or You !
You Say Your "attitude stank and [You Were] acting on emotions"--Something ELSE, No Doubt, You Are ALSO Falsely Accusing Me Of (In Your Heart); As Of Having Toward You &-Or Others !
**"thewaypa": YOU'RE MANIFESTING A SPIRIT OF "NEGATIVE-MIRRORED ACCUSATORY SYNDROME" !
Street-Preacher, I do confess that my language was harsh due to speaking too quickly about you and my attitude stank and I was acting on emotions and was offended by your post (and not offended I don't think because of truth, but by the harshness unwarranted by your own post) and I apologize and ask your forgiveness. However, I do find your comments somewhat incoherent and disjointed and would like you to elaborate on a few things:
1) It seems that you may think people are heretics and apostates if they do not use the KJV (or AV 1611) Bible. Can you please substantiate this with Scripture and/or plain reason (preferably both)?
2) How exactly, from a Biblical standpoint, is it justifiable to say that a WHOLE organization (whose hearts you or I do not know) is going to hell for a name change? Granted, there may be fear of man behind the change and I do not doubt that there may very well be unsaved people working at CCC, but please provide Scripture to support your stance?
3) Is man capable of responding to the Gospel out of his own free will, or must his dead spirit be made alive again by a free act of God's grace, the man predestined therefore to be His elect unto eternal life?
thewaypa wrote: Street-Preacher, do you have to scream in every post?
I'm Not Screaming In Every Post, I'm Emphasizing, But If You Want To Erroneously Think That I'm Screaming; Then So Be It--As I Can't Control What You're Thinking.
But Even If I WAS Screaming, CRYING OUT &-Or "CRY(ING) ALOUD, SPAR[ING] NOT, LIFT(ING) UP [MY] VOICE LIKE A TRUMPET, AND SHOW(ING) [GOD'S] PEOPLE THEIR TRANSGRESSION, AND THE HOUSE OF JACOB THEIR SINS. [ISAIAH 58:1]" I AM BEING OBEDIENT TO ALMIGHTY GOD & HIS CALLING UPON MY LIFE !
EVIDENTLY, YOU "thewaypa" HAVE NOT READ THE BIBLE-BASED GOSPEL-TRACT THAT ALMIGHTY GOD USED ME TO PUBLISH VIA "THE YOUNG BIBLE CRUSADERS OF AMERICA" IN 1978 ENTITLED "YOU"--(c)1978-The Young Bible Crusaders; Which Says:
"YOU WERE BORN INTO THIS WORLD AS A CHILD OF THE DEVIL, NOT AS A CHILD OF GOD; AND WILL GO STRAIGHT TO HELL-FIRE WHEN YOU DIE PHYSICALLY BECAUSE OF SIN.
(ILLUSTRATION)
'And You...Were (Born) By Nature THE CHILDREN OF WRATH (HELL-FIRE), Even As (BILLIONS OF) Others.' Ephesians 2:3c
'Whosoever Committeth Sin Is Of THE DEVIL; For THE DEVIL Sinneth From The Beginning.' 1 John 3:8a
'YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO.' JOHN 8:44a "--YOU, Pg-8, (c)1978-The Young Bible Crusaders !
schruve wrote: I'm confused by the outrage over the name change and by the skewed reports from various news outlets. Campus Crusade for Christ did not drop anything from its name, it simply changed its name because of the words "Campus" and "Crusade". 20% of non-christians no longer wanted to talk about Jesus after they heard the name and since our mission is to introduce as many people to Christ as possible, to the Glory of God, it makes since to go about changing the name. Check out this link if you really want the truth behind aspects of the name change: http://www.ccci.org/about-us/donor-relations/our-new-name/qanda.htm.
Interesting! So then you are saying that you redefined Christ so that He would be more acceptable by the news media and those you are supposedly witnessing to. If they don't like the Jesus of the bible, simply change Him; not completely or instantaneously, but just little by little? As an aside, and I am saying this with love; I'm sure you don't understand!
I'm confused by the outrage over the name change and by the skewed reports from various news outlets. Campus Crusade for Christ did not drop anything from its name, it simply changed its name because of the words "Campus" and "Crusade".
20% of non-christians no longer wanted to talk about Jesus after they heard the name and since our mission is to introduce as many people to Christ as possible, to the Glory of God, it makes since to go about changing the name. Check out this link if you really want the truth behind aspects of the name change: http://www.ccci.org/about-us/donor-relations/our-new-name/qanda.htm.
I used to be an active participant in Campus Crusade for Christ, and I can tell you in retrospect that I think that the organization then (and now) because of their skewed gospel presentation as laid out in the "4 Spiritual Laws," have remained on a course (that is to say, if they were never on it to begin with) towards man-centered theology, which I can say from personal experience at the Cru that I was at was what actually happened. Street-Preacher, do you have to scream in every post? And BTW, why do you seem to talk as if your coming to faith in Christ was your idea although you were dead in trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1)? You seem a little too eager to label people heretics when to be quite honest, you sound like a proud, self-righteous man who can't wait to vent his own opinion as if they were Scripture. If you are going to lay charge of heresy to people, at least present a cogent reason why and not wail on them like a raving lunatic (seriously, changing Crusade to "Cru" brings individuals closer to hell-fire? Man, maybe they should just listen to you, since, of course, you are led by "The Inspiration, Illumination & Direction Of GOD, The Holy Spirit"? Heterodoxy is one thing, but a name change? You've crossed the line, my legalistic friend).
I Guess Now All The "New-Evangelical" & "Pseudo-Fundamentalist" Evangelistic Campaigns Will NO LONGER Call Themselves "Crusades"; As In Citywide Evangelistic Crusades Sent By Almighty GOD To Win Whole Cities For The LORD Jesus Christ With HIS BIBLICAL Gospel ?
Especially, APOSTATES-HERETICS Like "jim lincoln"; Who SPEAK EVIL OF THE HISTORIC+ENGLISH+HOLY+BIBLE BASED CHRISTIAN REVIVALS, EVANGELISTIC CRUSADES, STREET-PREACHING & PERSONAL SOUL-WINNING !
Back In The Late-'70s/Early-'80s When My Brother & I (Through The Inspiration, Illumination & Direction Of GOD, The Holy Spirit) Started "THE YOUNG BIBLE CRUSADERS OF AMERICA (c)1978"; We Were Constantly Being Confused With Being Part Of "Campus Crusade For Christ".
Well, That Will FOREVER Change With "Campus Crusade" Being Called "Cru" !
Personally, I Think It's Just "Cru"dely Knocking That Organization Down One More Step & Level CLOSER TO HELL-FIRE ITSELF ! - SINCE THEY ARE ALREADY HERETICAL & APOSTATE FALLERS-AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC ENGLISH HOLY BIBLE (THE KING JAMES BIBLE) & DOUBLE-SEPARATIST STANDARDS; AS LAID OUT BY THE GRAND OLD (US) PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS LIKE:
A kinder and gentler comment on parachurch activity comes from my own pastor, who doesn't name names, but points out why he is for local churches rather than anti-parachurches in, The Church: God's Program for Ministry.
Former Staff Member wrote: As a college student, I chose "Campus Crusade for Christ" over other organizations because of their clear mission and name. I wanted to grow in Christ. If it had been named "Cru" back then, I would have thought this is another attempt to water down the mission and message. It's very popular today to have a casual, no risk, approach to God. But is this what pleases Him? "What you win them with you win them to." Or is this what Jesus had in mind when He taught us? "If any man wants to come after Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross and follow Me." There's nothing casual about that.
Agree fully with your comment. They have been ecumenical for years and that sort of thing will always play itself out. Sort of like saying I am the bride of Christ, but I'll sleep with whomever I want. Yes, we may not understand our commitment when we become the bride of Christ, but the commitment has to be there.
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