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FRONT PAGE  |  11/27/2014
MONDAY, JUL 4, 2011  |  21 comments
Church services need to be shorter, says bishop
A senior bishop has urged churches to slash the length of services to encourage people to worship more.

The Rt Rev Jonathan Gledhill, the Bishop of Lichfield, said worship has become too complicated and time-consuming, leaving people who are not regular churchgoers feeling confused and excluded.

He said that services have become too long, recommending clergy should aim to keep them to no more than 50 minutes and make sure they are careful not to preach for too long.

Research conducted over the last year by anonymous worshippers for the church website Ship of Fools found some Anglican clergy preaching for as long as 42 minutes. ...


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News Item7/20/11 8:28 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, Black Belt, Should Roman Catholicism really be classified as a Christian religion? -- No. Apparently John Y., isn't the only one we need to tell, Come out of the Catholic Church.
No, it is better that a Mass be in Latin, false theology, should be as little understood as possible. This sermon isn't even by my own pastor, Blasphemy of the Mass, but I would recommend that you fellows listen to it.
Anyway, remember all Masses are Black Masses, no matter what language they are in.
No Mass is a Black Mass. The only Black Mass there is comes from the Satanist Church known as the Church Of Satan in which they parody the Catholic Mass by making it Satanic. The Catholic Mass is not entirely unscriptural since there are scriptural parts to the Mass like the readings from the Bible, the Apostles Creed, the Gloria(Prayer to the Holy Trinity), the Lord's Prayer, the words of Jesus from the Last Supper.
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News Item7/6/11 5:54 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Your Catholic Friend wrote:
John:
It's been clear since the issue of the Protestant WCF 1646 that Catholics are "damned" by following the Antichrist (I.e., the pope), engaging in idolatry (e.g., praying to Mary), etc.
However, when and why did Anglicans/Episcopalians join our ranks of the "damned"?
Sir, I don't have any Catholic friends, nor do I consider them to be "in Christ", which is why I cut off your end note. Notwithstanding, as I don't know you, if you are indeed "in Christ" rather than "in Adam", by God's grace, it would behove you to immediately remove yourself from the RCC and ask the Lord where you might worship HIM acceptably.

However, to answer your question, I would estimate from its very inception, seeing as it is a fundamental doctrine of their communion to believe in baptismal regeneration, which doctrine is showing a lack of understanding as to what regeneration is all about, namely, a work of God the Holy Ghost, whereby he brings alive the dead sinner by his word, and enlightens him as to the truth about sin and judgment, such an event producing in the sinner a desire for salvation and submission to Christ, apart from some evangelicals within the ranks, anglicans are damned for sure.

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News Item7/6/11 5:23 PM
Your Catholic Friend  Find all comments by Your Catholic Friend
John UK wrote:
Correct! Druid William could send all the anglican tares to Rome and it would not make any difference to The Blood Bought Church of Jesus Christ.
John:

It's been clear since the issue of the Protestant WCF 1646 that Catholics are "damned" by following the Antichrist (I.e., the pope), engaging in idolatry (e.g., praying to Mary), etc.

However, when and why did Anglicans/Episcopalians join our ranks of the "damned"?

In Christ,

Your Catholic Friend

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News Item7/6/11 4:46 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
your Christian friend wrote:
If you want Anglicans of any ilk from todays Anglican communion then you are very welcome to them. I am sure they will fit well in the antichrists pulpits and pews.
Correct! Druid William could send all the anglican tares to Rome and it would not make any difference to The Blood Bought Church of Jesus Christ.
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News Item7/6/11 4:34 PM
your Christian friend  Find all comments by your Christian friend
Your Catholic Friend wrote:
Archbishop Williams:
You're right. Keep sending your best and most conservative congregations to Rome.
If you want Anglicans of any ilk from todays Anglican communion then you are very welcome to them. I am sure they will fit well in the antichrists pulpits and pews.
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News Item7/6/11 4:22 PM
Your Catholic Friend  Find all comments by Your Catholic Friend
Archbishop of Caterbury wrote:
"The Rt Rev Jonathan Gledhill, the Bishop of Lichfield, said worship has become too complicated and time-consuming"
The Bishop is absolutely correct here. The Anglican church should cut down on sermons and Bible readings and the doctrines which they teach.
It would appeal much more to the Anglican pew fillers if they introduced more contemporary entertainment, music, dance and modern Liberal philosophy.
Perhaps it would help more if they got rid of pulpits and the boring old sermons which their bishops and vicars put everyone to sleep with.
The Anglican rule today is forget God and entertain the troops so a short service with rousing music and lyrics written for the flesh, might just fill the church and get the congregation rocking and rapturous. What a laugh that would be.
Archbishop Williams:

You're right. Keep sending your best and most conservative congregations to Rome.

You can keep the liberals.

Blessings in Christ,

Your Catholic Friend

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News Item7/6/11 4:01 PM
Archbishop of Caterbury  Find all comments by Archbishop of Caterbury
"The Rt Rev Jonathan Gledhill, the Bishop of Lichfield, said worship has become too complicated and time-consuming"

The Bishop is absolutely correct here. The Anglican church should cut down on sermons and Bible readings and the doctrines which they teach.

It would appeal much more to the Anglican pew fillers if they introduced more contemporary entertainment, music, dance and modern Liberal philosophy.

Perhaps it would help more if they got rid of pulpits and the boring old sermons which their bishops and vicars put everyone to sleep with.

The Anglican rule today is forget God and entertain the troops so a short service with rousing music and lyrics written for the flesh, might just fill the church and get the congregation rocking and rapturous. What a laugh that would be.

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News Item7/6/11 3:29 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Your Catholic Friend wrote:
....climb aboard the Catholic ship.
All aboard Matey!
Skull and crossbones on the flag
We're the biz, they all do brag
Little knowing their head of ship
Is the antichrist that God will whip
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News Item7/6/11 3:22 PM
Your Catholic Friend  Find all comments by Your Catholic Friend
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, Black Belt, Should Roman Catholicism really be classified as a Christian religion? -- No. Apparently John Y., isn't the only one we need to tell, Come out of the Catholic Church.
No, it is better that a Mass be in Latin, false theology, should be as little understood as possible. This sermon isn't even by my own pastor, Blasphemy of the Mass, but I would recommend that you fellows listen to it.
Anyway, remember all Masses are Black Masses, no matter what language they are in.
Y'all are our separated brethren. We're praying that you'll leave the disintegrating flotsam and jetsam of Protestantism and climb aboard the Catholic ship.

All aboard Matey!

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News Item7/6/11 2:58 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Black Belt, Should Roman Catholicism really be classified as a Christian religion? -- No. Apparently John Y., isn't the only one we need to tell, Come out of the Catholic Church.

No, it is better that a Mass be in Latin, false theology, should be as little understood as possible. This sermon isn't even by my own pastor, Blasphemy of the Mass, but I would recommend that you fellows listen to it.

Anyway, remember all Masses are Black Masses, no matter what language they are in.

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News Item7/5/11 5:17 PM
Bible Black Belt  Find all comments by Bible Black Belt
John Yurich USA wrote:
Well actually the Nuptial Mass will not be sung in Latin but will be sung in English.
Huzza, huzza!

Congrats!

Pax Christi!

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News Item7/5/11 5:06 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
KJV wrote:
Outstanding John! Sung Holy Mass in Latin? Absolutely beautiful. Congratulations!
Well actually the Nuptial Mass will not be sung in Latin but will be sung in English.
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News Item7/5/11 3:02 PM
Bible Black Belt  Find all comments by Bible Black Belt
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, The Mass - Miracle or Mendacity? Just another of those, Roman Catholic Traditions.
We were hoping someday, John Y., you were going to become a Christian.
Jim,

John Y. is apparently a baptized, communing member and Nicene Creed (Gospel summary)-affirming of his 2,000 year old denomination and thus a Christian.

Are you?

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News Item7/5/11 2:36 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, The Mass - Miracle or Mendacity? Just another of those, Roman Catholic Traditions.

We were hoping someday, John Y., you were going to become a Christian.

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News Item7/5/11 8:44 AM
KJV  Find all comments by KJV
John Yurich USA wrote:
I have attended Divine Liturgy in a couple of Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Divine Liturgy lasted 2 hours in duration. When I get married in the Catholic Church I am going to request that the entire Nuptial Mass be sung which will make it last about 2 hours in duration.
Outstanding John! Sung Holy Mass in Latin? Absolutely beautiful. Congratulations!
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News Item7/5/11 8:03 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Donald Randolph wrote:
Wow! A whole 42 minutes.And to think, my church meets twice a week for 5 hours. One hour of praise and four hours of Bible study. Guess we should shorten it up a bit. No way! If God is first in your life, the time goes by quick enough.
I have attended Divine Liturgy in a couple of Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Divine Liturgy lasted 2 hours in duration. When I get married in the Catholic Church I am going to request that the entire Nuptial Mass be sung which will make it last about 2 hours in duration.
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News Item7/4/11 2:35 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
But gentlemen consider!
"The faith of Anglicans is founded in the scriptures, the traditions of the apostolic church, the apostolic succession – "historic episcopate" and the early Church Fathers...." Anglicanism

'...the State Church, which the great reformers had planted, and which some of them had watered with their blood, presented the spectacle which went far to justify the sarcasm of an eminent writer, that she possessed "A Popish Liturgy, a Calvinistic Creed, and an Arminian Clergy."'

The Down Grade

Except for the unusual Anglican Church that may have some interesting interiors and taking pictures of same, any time inside is wasted even five minutes.

Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
...the issue is the heart in relationship to God and the worship due to Him must flow from a new heart condition. A heart that is cleansed, made new, and God-centered. True worship will always be a matter of the heart's condition, not the place or form of ceremony, and must be based on God's Word....
from,Hypocritical Worship Rebuked
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News Item7/4/11 2:23 PM
pos  Find all comments by pos
""You have got to be quite tough to come to some of our services if you are not a regular attender.
"We're praying for longer and we're singing for longer.""

I don't know why these Liberal Anglicans bother to worship God anyway. There is no way God listens to the unBiblical idolatrous worship of the creature, which their hearts are full of.

The Liberal Anglican rejection of Scripture followed by acceptance of the abomination and idolatrous religions is to insult God not worship Him.

False religion, false teachers followed by false congregations are the workers of iniquity which Christ rejects in Matthew 7:23.

Sadly...
"many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of."

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News Item7/4/11 9:36 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY
From the article: A senior bishop has urged churches to slash the length of services to encourage people to worship more.

If they slashed the length of time that people worship, wouldn't they worship less? I guess I'm confused!

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News Item7/4/11 2:28 AM
Donald Randolph | Arizona  Find all comments by Donald Randolph
Wow! A whole 42 minutes.And to think, my church meets twice a week for 5 hours. One hour of praise and four hours of Bible study. Guess we should shorten it up a bit. No way! If God is first in your life, the time goes by quick enough.
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