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Van Impe ministry abandons TBN in clash over Islam
A Christian ministry's decision to expose as "false teachers" several celebrity ministers it believes are corrupting biblical teachings has prompted a rift, with Jack Van Impe Ministries dropping plans to work in the future with Trinity Broadcasting Network, where it has broadcast for more than two decades.

"I Will Not Be Silenced! I will not allow anyone to tell me what I can and cannot preach," Van Impe said in a statement when TBN would not allow his program to air.

"When I see heretical teaching leading to apostasy, I will speak out," he said. "The Bible says 'All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:' (II Timothy 3:16). The Apostle Paul also gives instructions in Titus 1:9-11, 13 'Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to ...


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truthful witness  Find all comments by truthful witness
Jeremiah 50:

35 A sword is upon the Chaldeans, saith the LORD, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her princes, and upon her wise men.

36 A sword is upon the liars; and they shall dote: a sword is upon her mighty men; and they shall be dismayed.

37 A sword is upon their chariots, and upon all the MINGLED PEOPLE that are in the midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is UPON HER TREASURES; and they SHALL BE ROBBED.

38 A drought is upon her waters; and they shall be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they are mad upon their idols.

39 Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation.

America is going to be destroyed. Forever.

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News Item6/26/11 11:22 PM
300 Lbs.  Find all comments by 300 Lbs.
Michael Hranek wrote:
FatGuy
Man O Man, Whew! Where have you been?
I've heard of men blaming:
Bush
Obama
Muslims
The ACLU
Rock and Roll Music
Rap Music
Madeline Murry O'Hara
Hollywood
Fox News
The Vatican
The Black Pope (whoever he is)
Liberal Democrats
Republicans in Name Only
Rush Limbaugh
skinny people
etc
etc
and more etceteras (sp?)
for what is wrong with America
You are the first to my memory blaming "the cult of dispensationalists"
All humor aside what do you think it will take before we begin looking in the mirror for what might just be wrong with American and the churches in America, repenting of our own sin (including passing the blame on everybody else) and getting ourselves right with God whereby we will know His blessing despite whatever anyone else does or doesn't do, and whatever trials we might need to pass through.
I know, I know it will take a whole lot of God's grace because it is so easy to pass blame on everybody else but me.
Tony = The Masonic Vaticanist Satinist are coming.

truthfull witness = The Zionist are coming.

Jim = The KJV only are coming.

Fat Guy = The Dispensationalist are coming.

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News Item6/26/11 9:34 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
The Fat Guy wrote:
It is going to get to a point here in America that the
FatGuy
Man O Man, Whew! Where have you been?
I've heard of men blaming:
Bush
Obama
Muslims
The ACLU
Rock and Roll Music
Rap Music
Madeline Murry O'Hara
Hollywood
Fox News
The Vatican
The Black Pope (whoever he is)
Liberal Democrats
Republicans in Name Only
Rush Limbaugh
skinny people
etc
etc
and more etceteras (sp?)
for what is wrong with America

You are the first to my memory blaming "the cult of dispensationalists"

All humor aside what do you think it will take before we begin looking in the mirror for what might just be wrong with American and the churches in America, repenting of our own sin (including passing the blame on everybody else) and getting ourselves right with God whereby we will know His blessing despite whatever anyone else does or doesn't do, and whatever trials we might need to pass through.

I know, I know it will take a whole lot of God's grace because it is so easy to pass blame on everybody else but me.

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News Item6/26/11 8:51 PM
The Fat Guy  Find all comments by The Fat Guy
It is going to get to a point here in America that the Dispensationalist is going to send the Reformed brothers and sisters to the american concentration camps because they don't support national isreal like the Dispensationalist say they should. If you are caught in the cult of dispensationalism, God calls you to come out of it. The NWO and Dispensationalism theology goes hand in hand because it endorces war on those who do not support isreal. Dispensationalism also endorces war on Islam because it is anti isreal. Dispensationalism is the perfect american theology to push w/ the NWO to achieve its goals. American presidents bring dispensationalist to the white house to get end time prophecy. You see our polical leader are using dispensationalist pastors and their theology to condone our over seas actions war against all nations. Did you ever constitutionaly declare war? Nope! See where you support for isreal gets ya? More wars!
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News Item6/26/11 4:57 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
black helicopter wrote:
It is what happens to abusers of truth.
Don't you mean a spiritual attitude toward Allah? That's a different god, who is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Exactly.

It is a serious business, believing the truth over the lie. And whenever a Muslim is converted to Christ Jesus, well, you know what happens....

For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward. And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
Mark 9:41-42 KJV

The word "offend" in this verse can be rendered "cause to sin". So that when a Muslim converts to Christ and is saved, whenever anyone of his family or friends tries to claim him back to Islam, they are trying to cause him to sin (of unbelief in Christ), and therefore are directly involved in these words of Jesus "better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea".

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News Item6/26/11 1:24 PM
black helicopter | everywhere  Find all comments by black helicopter
truthful witness wrote:
Nobody is telling you to become a Muslim. Their religion does work in many respects, in that it supports family life and a sober, spiritual attitude toward God.

I am being abused on this forum.

It is what happens to abusers of truth.

Don't you mean a spiritual attitude toward Allah? That's a different god, who is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

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News Item6/26/11 4:15 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Michael Hranek wrote:
John UK
The oracles of God, the Law of Moses, the Canon of Scripture (OT), were entrusted to the Jewish people, something we "Gentiles" must needs to grafted into and wonderfully are in the new birth and the filling of the Spirit.
Yes indeed bro.

Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
Galatians 3:6 KJV

Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Galatians 3:7 KJV

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Galatians 3:10 KJV

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Galatians 3:13-14 KJV

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:29 KJV

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News Item6/25/11 11:19 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
truthful witness wrote:
Questions:

3. Where do you get off changing Jesus' name to Yeshua? What Bible are you reading? What gives you the right to change his name?

tw(?)
Look at this moment I have no desire to enter a discussion, argument or debate with you, I will state briefly where I am coming from and you are free to take it or leave it, or whatever. Please do not forget all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God...including you and me, well at least me since I don't know maybe you haven't.

Now you don't have to answer this question but really it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to know Jesus is the Greek for the Hebrew Yeshua (Joshua), don't you know this? And I used the Hebrew to stress God in His Sovereignty choose the Jewish race/people as His covenant people through which He would bring the Savior for both Jews and Gentiles into the world. Yes, a bit delibrately since your posts seem to have a IMHO an irrational hostility to Jews about them that I don't want any part of. I love Jewish people and if God willed so would gladly die a witness for their salvation, after all it was a Jewish man Yeshua the Messiah, the Son of God who died for me when I was a sinner so that I could be saved.

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News Item6/25/11 9:27 PM
truthful witness  Find all comments by truthful witness
Michael Hranek wrote:
John UK
In the Gospel of John, Jesus told the woman at the well that Salvation is of the Jews.
Our salvation is a very Jewish person, Yeshua the Messiah...The oracles of God, the Law of Moses, the Canon of Scripture (OT), were entrusted to the Jewish people, something we "Gentiles" must needs to grafted into..whitewash the religion of a murderous, theiving, demon possessed pedophile.
Questions:

1. Can you harmonize the meaning "of the Jews" as it pertains to the definition of the Olive Tree, without reading into or out of the meaning of the phrase?

2. What is the Olive Tree? A plain, straight, harmonized answer.

3. Where do you get off changing Jesus' name to Yeshua? What Bible are you reading? What gives you the right to change his name?

4. What does cussing out Muhammed and the Muslims have to do with defining the Olive Tree in scripture?

5. Do you think the Jews who wrote the Talmud and the Kabala were righteous prophets of God? Or were they also murdering, thieving pedophiles? And does the Talmud not in fact endorse pedophila?

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News Item6/25/11 5:59 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
John UK wrote:
Concerning the olive tree?
John UK
In the Gospel of John, Jesus told the woman at the well that Salvation is of the Jews.

Our salvation is a very Jewish person, Yeshua the Messiah, about whom everything written in the Law of Moses and the prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.

The oracles of God, the Law of Moses, the Canon of Scripture (OT), were entrusted to the Jewish people, something we "Gentiles" must needs to grafted into and wonderfully are in the new birth and the filling of the Spirit.

Of course we could nitpick realities that ought to have us on our faces in worship before God and argue endlessly against Jews and Christians and whitewash the religion of a murderous, theiving, demon possessed pedophile as if they are some kind of missunderstood victimes of those terrible Christian people but that would be another story indeed.

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News Item6/25/11 4:19 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Concerning the olive tree?

If I make a mistake, I am willing to learn and amend, sure. But I have been checking out what MH says and he appears to agree with me.

Check it out HERE MH on Romans 11:17

It's about half way down, beginning with:

"First, The privilege which the Gentiles had by being taken into the church. They were grafted in (v. 17), as a branch of a wild olive into a good olive, which is contrary to the way and custom of the husbandman, who grafts the good olive into the bad; but those that God grafts into the church he finds wild and barren, and good for nothing. Men graft to mend the tree; but God grafts to mend the branch. 1. The church of God is an olive-tree, flourishing and fruitful as an olive (Ps. lii. 8; Hos. xiv. 6), the fruit useful for the honour both of God and man, Judg. ix. 9. 2."

But you'll need to read the full comment on the verse to get the drift.

fisherman - good posts!

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News Item6/25/11 4:11 PM
fisherman  Find all comments by fisherman
truthful witness wrote:
Surely you know better.
Yes thankyou, I do know better than to believe all the conspiracy theories and disinformation which is written up on the web. All that you said here in your post is conspiracy theories, or to put it another way, lies!
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News Item6/25/11 3:06 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Zoloft wrote:
Ah yes. Narcissistic, Combative paranoid delusion Personality Disorder,(manifesting in a pesecution complex) with Secondary Theological Reversalism.
Thanks doc, I thought it might be serious, but phew!
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News Item6/25/11 3:05 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
CV,

The gospel, and only hope for the soul must be preserved from all alterations.

The Olive Tree, if it is a group of people (and not Christ) would create a new gospel, would it not?

If our very spirituality is born from man instead of the Messiah??

to teach that Christ really agreed with the Pharisees, that the Gentile woman was a dog.......well that is misrepresenting Christ himself.

This is no small matter, and much to what tw eludes to.

For when this belief is perpetuated, an atheist people can see atrocities with more objectivity than the supposed believer who will force the dominion of an unregenerate group (who are also being mislead) at the cost of anything and anyone.

And so the outpouring of this false gospel is a people who begin to look contradictory, hypocritical.

The Christian does have a higher calling, straight from Christ Himself,
to take care of Christ's Body, that is each other, to love mercy as we have been given it. Does this sometimes entail helping an unregenerate group? Absolutely. But gathering the world in servitude? The globalists enjoy and cultivate such folly!

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News Item6/25/11 2:54 PM
Dr. Zoloft  Find all comments by Dr. Zoloft
John UK wrote:
Amazing, tw. Almost everything you say is the complete opposite of the reality. I guess if Dr Zoloft was here, he would present us with the name of a medical condition which you obviously have.
Ah yes. Narcissistic, Combative paranoid delusion Personality Disorder,(manifesting in a pesecution complex) with Secondary Theological Reversalism.
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News Item6/25/11 1:36 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
truthful witness wrote:
I am being abused on this forum.
Amazing, tw. Almost everything you say is the complete opposite of the reality. I guess if Dr Zoloft was here, he would present us with the name of a medical condition which you obviously have. And I do not say that unkindly, but with a sincere desire for your recuperation.

All your thoughts are a clone of what you've found on the net. I recommend you study the Bible and leave the conspiracy theories to David Icke and his ilk.

The biblical fact is that since the crucifixion the "Jews" have been under judgment from God, this being prophesied in the OT, when God said they would lose the land he gave them and be scattered all over the world, a despised and persecuted people. But then there is a promise of a return, a return to their own land which God gave them. It was also prophesied, and it also came to pass. It is also prophesied that certain nations will make big war with Israel intending to wipe them out, but that GOD will fight for Israel and destroy those who are HIS enemies.

p.s. You have quoted some scripture well out of context and we need to look into that. Exaggeration is not required by the Holy Spirit to enlighten a person as to truth.

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News Item6/25/11 11:53 AM
truthful witness  Find all comments by truthful witness
fisherman wrote:
If we look at the reasons behind Iraq and Afghanistan we see that Saddam Hussein was slaughtering his own people and in Afghanistan the Taliban were murdering and oppressing their people.
Surely you know better. The nation of Iraq had roads, schools, jobs, stability. The people were modern, the women wore head scarves but not burkhas.

Saddam was installed by the U.S., fitted with arms, and sent to war against Iran. That's evil. He was an asset. Saddam was TOLD to invade Quwait. When he did, we attacked and buried his soldiers alive in the desert.

Years later we Shock and Awed the country, hung him publicly, and our soldiers routinely rape and mow down civilians now in Iraq, guard the pipeline built to take Iraq's stolen oil into Israel where it's sold to China. The Iraqi people are living a nightmare, millions dead and dieing.

We invaded Afghanistan to force the govt. to start up the poppy fields, because the black ops military makes $500 billion a year from that. Our soldiers guard the fields and fly out the dope.

It's true.

TV is pure trash and lies. Use the Net and research.

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News Item6/25/11 11:42 AM
fisherman  Find all comments by fisherman
truthful witness wrote:
We must remember from where this killing is coming, read our Bibles and know it's coming from people in rebellion to God, under God's curse, and that those who join with the Zionists will suffer the same judgment from God and be under the same curse.
Read Jeremiah 50 and 51 to see where America is headed.
If we look at the reasons behind Iraq and Afghanistan we see that Saddam Hussein was slaughtering his own people and in Afghanistan the Taliban were murdering and oppressing their people.

"Love our neighbour" meant to go in and remove the evil tyranny.

As for "where this killing is coming from, read our Bibles" -
The Bible teaches that the original inhabitants of the palestinian land were Canaanites whom God instructed His people to slaughter. From this we can perceive God's attitude to war and death, which may not be comfortable for us but HE deals in eternal life and the salvation of His people.
The Jews throughiout history are one of the most suffering of peoples having been slaughtered, hated and annihilated by many nations, pogroms and holocausts included.
There is God's view of war and death in practical reality.

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News Item6/25/11 11:24 AM
truthful witness  Find all comments by truthful witness
fisherman wrote:
PS. Yes I have lived and worked in muslim countries! And generally speaking they are very nice people.
THANK YOU for saying a kind word for the Muslims, who are suffering so much, persecuted under the hand of antichrist.

When you speak up for them, you throw some cold water on the gasoline of all the warmongering, hatemongering talk that is spread on the Zionist controlled television, megachurch ministries, radio, publishing houses, the MOSSAD, CIA, MI6, all working for Israel to START WWIII.

We do not want that. We are Christians called to be peacemakers, not slanderers, not telling tales for blood. And it will all come back on our head.

A little truth goes a long way. I have known Muslims too, personally, neighbors and delightful people. I've also known people from Lebanon, Iran, and Palestine, (married to my nephew). Some are Christian, one Muslim, all with friends and relatives killed and under siege.

We must remember from where this killing is coming, read our Bibles and know it's coming from people in rebellion to God, under God's curse, and that those who join with the Zionists will suffer the same judgment from God and be under the same curse.

Read Jeremiah 50 and 51 to see where America is headed.

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News Item6/25/11 11:05 AM
fisherman  Find all comments by fisherman
truthful witness wrote:
Nobody is telling you to become a Muslim. Their religion does work in many respects, in that it supports family life and a sober, spiritual attitude toward God.
The point is.....
God would not allow one of His elect to become a muslim.

When I look at muslim countries I see ignorance, lack of education, underdeveloped, uncivilised, chaos.

When I look at the western nation who had a basis of Christian teaching in their generations I see that God blessed them with knowledge, education, civilisation, development and organised society.

Satan's way is chaos.

God's way is blessing and knowledge.

PS. Yes I have lived and worked in muslim countries! And generally speaking they are very nice people. BUT they are NOT saved. Islam does NOT save therefore they will go to hell on the basis of that religion alone.

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