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SATURDAY, MAY 14, 2011  |  14 comments  |  2 commentaries
Obama Quotes Scripture to Push 'Moral Imperative' of Immigration Reform
In making his case that immigration reform is morally imperative, the president quoted the Book of Deuteronomy – comparing illegal immigrants to the Jews in Egypt.

“Immigration reform is a moral imperative, and so it’s worth seeking greater understanding from our faith,” said Obama. “As it is written in the Book of Deuteronomy [10:19], ‘Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.’ To me, that verse is a call to show empathy to our brothers and our sisters; to try and recognize ourselves in one another. ...


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News Item5/20/11 3:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, I see SermonAudio's longest running joke had some nonsense to spout, but going on to your question, John U.K., there is really nothing wrong in saying that the AV was neither "inspired" or "preserved" Scripture.

But as the fringe elements of the King James Onlyism movement would have it. Saying it was directly inspired by God and there are no errors in it. The translators of the AV, would think this idea was a ship without ballast! The Preface to the King James Version And the King James Only position.

I would say it wasn't inspired in the same way that other imperfect works of men aren't inspired, only the original biblical autographs were perfect, as I have agreed with the article, The Preservation of Scripture. You even know about The Westminster Assembly and the Inspiration and Preservation of the Word of God. So, if Tony's minister followed along these lines of argument, then he was correct, and of course welcome to the use of the New American Standard Bible

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News Item5/18/11 4:20 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Jim Lincoln wrote:
He clarified his new position in a 2009 sermon entitled "What Did God Preserve?" by stating, "the King James Bible was neither inspired nor preserved'..
And what, pray, is wrong with that assertion?
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News Item5/18/11 3:05 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
Seems Like "jim-Protocols-Of-Zion-lincoln", Like His "Protocols-Of-Zion"-B'nai-B'rith-Masonic-Brother Rahm Emanuel, Wants To Obfuscate & Equivocate THE TRUTH !

"jim lincoln" Is So PATHETIC & PERVERTED IN HIS PENSATIONS & PALAVER; THAT HE THINKS "wikipedia" Is MORE ACCURATE Than THE-HISTORIC-AUTHORIZED-ENGLISH-HOLY-BIBLE;

OR THE VERY WORDS OF DR. JACK SCHAAP & TLC !

"NOW THE (HOLY) SPIRIT SPEAKETH EXPRESSLY, THAT IN THE LATTER TIMES, SOME (LIKE "jim lincoln") SHALL DEPART FROM THE FAITH, GIVING HEED TO SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS;

SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRICY, HAVING THEIR CONSCIENCE SEARED WITH A HOT IRON;" I TIMOTHY 4:1-2

"BUT THERE WERE FALSE PROPHETS ALSO AMONG THE (JEWISH) PEOPLE, EVEN AS THERE SHALL BE FALSE TEACHERS (Ala "jim lincoln") AMONG YOU, WHO PRIVILY SHALL BRING IN DAMNABLE HERESIES, EVEN DENYING THE LORD THAT BOUGHT THEM, AND BRING UPON THEMSELVES SWIFT DESTRUCTION.

AND MANY SHALL FOLLOW THEIR PERNICIOUS WAYS; BY REASON OF WHOM THE WAY OF TRUTH SHALL BE EVIL SPOKEN OF.

AND THROUGH COVETOUSNESS SHALL THEY WITH FEIGNED WORDS MAKE MERCHANDISE OF YOU: WHOSE JUDGEMENT NOW OF A LONG TIME LINGERETH NOT, AND THEIR DAMNATION SLUMBERETH NOT." II PETER 2:1-3

"THESE BE THEY WHO SEPARATE THEMSELVES, SENSUAL, HAVING NOT THE SPIRIT." JUDE 1:19 !

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News Item5/18/11 2:40 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, TLC, you should read the Wikpedia article, by the way you just described yourself in your name calling, it saved me from having to do it. You are becoming a pathetic joke, oh, you should read the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion since you have used that to attack Jews also.

No, if you attended the church you said you go to, then you would know your pastor said that back in 2009.

Oh, couldn't even win a seat on the Weed Control Board?

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News Item5/18/11 2:32 PM
EP  Find all comments by EP
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Thank God there are smart Jewish candidates running in Chicago!
Candidate(s) plural Jim? Or are you referring the Mr. Emmanuel who did what Mrs. Clinton did a quick change of residence for strategic reasons. That's seems fishy to me. What qualifies a man for being 'smart' in your estimation? Why wouldn't I rather a wise man who would rule in the fear of God because he believed in the deity of Jesus Christ and his accountability to Him as his Lord? Granted I'd ask no brother to swear an unlawful oath to a deist Constitution, but perhaps someday soon that won't be necessary and those who vote won't have to choose between two evils. Nor will false teachers abound on every side whose teaching kills souls, not bodies.
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News Item5/18/11 2:21 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
Hey, "jim lincoln", You Are A Deciever, Dissimulator & LIAR !

Evidently, You Did NOT Attend, Listen To Or Read Anything On Hyles-Anderson College's "KING JAMES BIBLE SUMMIT" !

Br. Schaap Still Takes THE KING JAMES-ONLY BIBLE POSITION !

That's The ONLY ENGLISH HOLY BIBLE HE SAYS HE WILL EVER USE IN THE PULPIT, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE FOR ANY & EVERY REASON !

HE TOLD ME THAT HIMSELF JUST BEFORE THIS LAST "PASTORS SCHOOL 2011" !

Br. Schaap Has Not, Did NOT, Nor EVER WILL Depart From THE KING-JAMES ONLY POSITION TAKEN BY THE PREVIOUS PASTOR OF FBCH: DR.-BR. JACK FRASER HYLES !

The ONLY "ditching" That Br. Schaap Has Done & Ever Will Do--As Per The Use Of THE KING JAMES BIBLE--Is Ditching The THOUGHT Of EVER Using Any OTHER English PER-VERSION Of THE-HISTORIC-AUTHORIZED-ENGLISH-HOLY-BIBLE: LIKE THE NASB, NIV & ALL THE OTHER "HIVs" OF THE "KJV-B" !

"BE NOT DECIEVED: ("jim lincoln's) EVIL COMMUNICATIONS CORRUPT (Br. Jack Schaap's) GOOD MANNERS." I CORINTHIANS 15:33 !

Dissimulator "jim lincoln" DIDN'T Give The Folks & Readers Of Sermonaudio The COMPLETE STORY:

BR. SCHAAP & I DON'T BELIEVE THE KJV-B IS INSPIRED "LIKE", OR MORE ACCURATE, THAN THE OT-NT "TEXTUS-RECEPTUS" OF THE-HISTORIC-AUTHORIZED-HOLY-JUDEO-CHRISTIAN-BIBLE-SCRIPTURES !

WE'RE FOREVER KJV-B-ONLY ! ! !

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News Item5/18/11 2:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Hey, Tony! did you hear, your pastor says to ditch the AV and use something different! Jack Schaap the present pastor of your church has said, 'Jack Schaap departed from Hyles' King James-only position by holding up his Bible and stating "This King James Bible is not inspired". He clarified his new position in a 2009 sermon entitled "What Did God Preserve?" by stating, "the King James Bible was neither inspired nor preserved' from, First Baptist Church (Hammond, Indiana) So start using the The New American Standard Bible

Thank God there are smart Jewish candidates running in Chicago! I noticed you never got elected to anything yet? Perhaps you should set your sights a little lower, like Weed Control Board?

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News Item5/18/11 1:12 PM
Former Candidate From Chicago  Find all comments by Former Candidate From Chicago
Mike wrote:
Even the devil can quote the (Holy) Scripture.
But He CAN'T Do It IN & BY The Direction, Inspiration, Unction & Illumination Of GOD, THE HOLY GHOST (SPIRIT) !:

"FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN; THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST (SPIRIT): AND THESE THREE ARE ONE." I JOHN 5:7

Take For Instance The Inaugeration Of Obama's Former Chief Of Staff & Now New Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

When He Took His "Oath Of Office" One DOESN'T Know Whether He Used THE KING JAMES BIBLE (The Historic U.S. American Holy Bible For Office Oath-Taking), The Jewish "Holy Scripture" (The 39 Books Of Orthodox Judaism), The Jewish-Talmud (The Blaspehmous Anti-Christian Writings Of Judaism's "Rabbis") Or Even, GOD-Forbid, "THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION"--DURING HIS INAUGERATION !

Especially With His Policy Of Advocating The "Consolidation" Of (Cook) County & (Chicago) City Government "Services";

While Appearing To Be A Vehicle For Eliminating Local Government "Waste" & "Mismanagement",

EMANUEL Is Actually Testing A "Grass-Roots" Attempt, If Not Effort, On The Doctrine, Policy & Practice Of Local-Regional-State-Federal Government GLOBALIZATION !

**CHICAGO, IL, USA; BRINGS THE WINDY CITY'S RAHM "PROTOCOLS OF ZION" EMANUEL TO THE WORLD ! ? !

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News Item5/14/11 7:42 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Even the devil can quote the Scripture.
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News Item5/14/11 5:28 PM
Former Candidate From Chicago  Find all comments by Former Candidate From Chicago
"annihilation" Of A "race" Is Called, By The "Politically-Correct", Today: Genocide !

While One's "Genocide" Is Another's "Population-Control" Or "ABORTION"; Is A Matter Of Debate--

We Can Rightly Conclude The "inhabitants" Of The Lands Conquered & "Cleansed" By The Children Of Israel, IN THE DAYS OF JOSHUA THE HEBREW GENERAL, Were Worthy, According To HOLY WRIT, As Deserving "annihilation", "genocide", "cleansing (of the land)" & etc. !

But, Because We Are Living TODAY In The Days Of Osamas, OBAMAS & CRIMINAL, UNLAWWFUL & ILLEGAL FOREIGN-ALIEN AGENDAS, Not To Mention 'MORAL (REALLY, IMMORAL) IMPERATIVE' IMMIGRATION REFORMS,

We Need To Question The Flagrant & Irresponsible Use AND Quotation Of HOLY WRIT & HOLY SCRIPTURE For POLITICAL GAIN & GLOBAL(IST) GOVERNMENTAL AGENDAS, PLANS, ROAD-MAPS, DOCUMENTS, COVENANTS, AGREEMENTS, COMPACTS, CONSTITUTIONS, PROTOCOLS & CONSPIRACIES !

As We Have Been FOREWARNED By THE HOLY SCRIPTURES THEMSELVES Regarding THE GLOBALIST & ONE-WORLD-ECONOMIC AGENDA:

"And HE Causeth ALL, Both Small And GREAT, RICH And Poor, FREE And Bond, To Receive A MARK In Their RIGHT HAND, Or In Their FOREHEADS:

And That NO MAN Might BUY Or SELL, Save HE That Had THE MARK, Or THE NAME Of THE BEAST, Or THE NUMBER Of HIS NAME." (Revelation 13:16-17)

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News Item5/14/11 5:00 PM
gleanings  Find all comments by gleanings
"said Obama. “As it is written in the Book of Deuteronomy [10:19], ‘Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.’ To me, that verse is a call to show empathy to our brothers and our sisters"

Interesting book to choose. Deuteronomy the three sermons of Moses preached as they were on the verge of entering Canaan. There of course they "removed" the inhabitants by annihilation to take over their lands and property.

Moral imperative?

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News Item5/14/11 2:38 PM
Former Candidate From Chicago  Find all comments by Former Candidate From Chicago
CV wrote:
That's a nice quote from Deuteronomy, but who found it for Obama, not Eboo Patel?
My Guess Is That The One's Pulling Obama's Immigration Strings Are NOT The "Muslims", Or The "Christians", Or Even The "Jews"; But The GLOBALISTS & "ONE-WORLDERS" !

It's Interesting To Note That The "Hebrew-Jewish" Strangers In Egypt Were There LEGALLY--NOT ILLEGALLY !

So One CANNOT Use Deuteronomy To Push A CRIMINAL, UNLAWFUL & ILLEGAL FOREIGN-ALIEN AGENDA !

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News Item5/14/11 7:02 AM
New in Focus  Find all comments by New in Focus
It would seem to me, to properly apply the text in Deuteronomy it would need to be coming from a nation who themselves were under the King in Jeshurun or One greater than Moses, even the Kingship of Jesus Christ. He is the NT Church's King and Head and who should be the Prophet, Priest and King of their brother, who is prepared by God,to like David rule in the fear of God, to lead his people Israel, with a heart after God. The moral law interpreted through the Gospel of peace is the only hope for the Israel of God in every nation. O Lord, build thy Church that Thou has purchased so dearly.
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News Item5/14/11 2:53 AM
CV | Australia  Find all comments by CV
That's a nice quote from Deuteronomy, but who found it for Obama, not Eboo Patel?
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