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FRONT PAGE  |  5/27/2015
SUNDAY, MAY 8, 2011  |  27 comments
What the Bible Has to Say on the Killing of Osama bin Laden
Did those who killed bin Laden have authority to do so? Did bin Laden deserve to die? And is every sin the same in God's eyes?

Kevin DeYoung, pastor of University Reformed Church in East Lansing, Mich., tackles the questions as details on how the killing of bin Laden actually went down continue to emerge and continue to spark debate about the legality of it all.

The evangelical pastor contends that only God has the authority to take human life.

"But," he adds in his blog, "God has ordained that he should exercise that right through the power of the state." ...


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News Item5/15/11 4:36 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Capilocks has appeared in another viperous manifestation, remember to read that for entertainment only.

Jpc, "Two wrongs make a right?" There has been no problem with various groups government and otherwise in your country in killing people?

John 8
6 And they were saying this, testing Him, in order that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground.
7 But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
8 And again He stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And when they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the midst.---NASB.

Oh, viperous you ask?

Wikipedia wrote:
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fraudulent, antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for achieving global domination. It was first published in Russia in 1903,...
from, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
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News Item5/15/11 3:10 PM
Jpc | South Africa  Find all comments by Jpc
You American Christians will find anything to justify your evil.
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News Item5/11/11 1:32 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
Enter "THE PROTOCOLS-OF-ZION"-JEWISH-OSAMA-OBAMA-BANKSTER-GANGSTER-DALEY-CHICAGO-RAHM-EMANUEL
CONNECTION-FIASCO" !:

"10 FACTS THAT PROVE THE BIN LADEN FABLE IS A CONTRIVED HOAX--

Every Indication Clearly Points To Last Sunday's Raid Being A Manufactured Ploy To Return Americans To A State Of Post-9/11 Intellectual Castration--
By J. Watson (5-9-11)

(CONTINUED)

Top US government insider DR. STEVE R. PIECZENIK, a man who HELD NUMEROUS DIFFERENT INFLUENTIAL POSITIONS UNDER FIVE (5 US) PRESIDENTS, SERVING AS THE DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE UNDER NIXON, FORD AND CARTER, told the Alex Jones Show last week that BIN LADEN DIED of MARFAN SYNDROME shortly AFTER he was visited by CIA physicians at the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001.

2) The official narrative of how the raid unfolded completely collapsed within days of its announcement. First there had been A 40 MINUTE SHOOTOUT, then there was NO SHOOTOUT and just ONE MAN WAS ARMED, first BIN LADEN was ARMED then he was NOT, first BIN LADEN used his WIFE as a HUMAN SHIELD and then he did NOT. First the compound was described as a '$1 MILLION DOLLAR MANSION' then IT TURNED OUT TO BE A RUBBISH-STREWN DILAPIDATED COMPOUND THAT WAS WORTH LESS THAN A QUARTER OF THAT. Almost EVERY SINGLE ASPECT..."PrisonPlanet.com

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News Item5/10/11 8:03 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
from the Whitehouse greenhouse wrote:
No, [Bin Laden] was a Democrat
No, No, No, He Was A "born-again" & Then "dead-again" RE-PUBLICAN Jewish Tax Collector (US "Ingelligence" Created "IRS-TERRORIST"-Boogeyman) !

Ala "THE PROTOCOLS-OF-ZION"-JEWISH-OSAMA-OBAMA-BANKSTER-GANGSTER-DALEY-CHICAGO-RAHM-EMANUEL
CONNECTION-FIASCO" !:

"10 FACTS THAT PROVE THE BIN LADEN FABLE IS A CONTRIVED HOAX

Every Indication Clearly Points To Last Sunday's Raid Being A Manufactured Ploy To Return Americans To A State Of Post-9/11 Intellectual Castration--
By J. Watson (5-9-11)

(CONTINUED)

1) Before last Sunday's raid, EVERY INTELLIGENCE ANALYST GOEPOLITICAL COMMENTATOR OR HEAD OF STATE WORTH THEIR SALT WAS ON RECORD as stating that OSAMA BIN LADEN was ALREADY DEAD, and that he probably died MANY YEARS AGO, From veteran CIA officer ROBERT BAER, to former PAKISTANI PRIME MINISTER BENAZIR BHUTTO, to former FBI HEAD OF COUNTERTERRORISM DALE WATSON. In addition, BACK IN 2002 ALEX JONES WAS TOLD DIRECTLY by two separate HIGH LEVEL SOURCES THAT BIN LADEN WAS ALREADY DEAD and that HIS DEATH WOULD BE ANNOUNCED AT THE MOST POLITICALLY OPPORTUNE MOMENT.

Top US government insider DR. STEVE R. PIECZENIK, a man who held numerous different influential..."PrisonPlanet.com !

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News Item5/10/11 1:42 PM
from the Whitehouse greenhouse  Find all comments by from the Whitehouse greenhouse
Mike wrote:
Maybe bin Laden is one of those twice dead people.
No, he was a Democrat Mike.
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News Item5/10/11 11:50 AM
New in Focus  Find all comments by New in Focus
Cezar wrote:
Kevin DeYoung, pastor of University Reformed Church "But," he adds in his blog, "God has ordained that he should exercise that right through the power of the state."
Romans 13:3 (KJV)
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
They are a terror to Christians, therefore they are not of God, and we are not to follow.
We are to follow the Bible even if it breaks the laws of men.
Psalms 94:20 (KJV)
Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?
Hosea 8:4 (KJV) They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.
Cezar,

Thank you for your comment. I didn't notice it until today. It is rare that I can read something that doesn't cause me perplexity and subtract from my ability, to sort through it all. This is not a commentary on others posts, it is just that often my knowledge base is unfamiliar with much of what is stated here. Not so with your post, it was helpful to me. Again thanks.

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News Item5/10/11 10:21 AM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
Mike wrote:
Maybe bin Laden is...twice dead
Forget "twice dead" ! According To The "PROTOCOLS-OF-ZION" Fullfilling CONTROLLED US & ISRAELI-Lobby Media-Press; Bin Laden Is MORE Than "THRICE DEAD" ! :

"10 FACTS THAT PROVE THE BIN LADEN FABLE IS A CONTRIVED HOAX--

Every Indication Clearly Points To Last Sunday's Raid Being A Manufactured Ploy To Return Americans To A State Of Post-9/11 Intellectual Castration--

J. Watson (5-9-11)

Merely a week after President Obama announced the death of Osama Bin Laden, there is literally a deluge of evidence that clearly indicates the whole episode has been manufactured for political gain and to return Americans to a state of post-9/11 intellectual castration so that they can be easily manipulated in the run up to the 2012 election. Here are ten facts that prove the Bin Laden fable is a contrived hoax….

1) Before last Sunday’s raid, EVERY INTELLIGENCE ANALYST, GEOPOLITICAL COMMENTATOR OR HEAD OF STATE WORTH THEIR SALT WAS ON RECORD as stating that Osama Bin Laden was ALREADY DEAD, and that he probably died many years ago, from veteran CIA officer ROBERT BAER, to former Pakistani Prime Minister BENAZIR BHUTTO, to former FBI head of counterterrorism DALE WATSON..."--PrisonPlanet.com !

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News Item5/9/11 7:27 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Maybe bin Laden is one of those twice dead people.
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News Item5/9/11 6:42 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
"TOP GOVERNMENT INSIDER: BIN LADEN DIED IN 2001, 9/11 FALSE FLAG ATTACK

By J. Watson (5-4-11)

FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE UNDER THREE (3) DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS STEVE R. PIECZENIK SAYS HE IS PREPARED TO TELL A FEDERAL GRAND JURY THE NAME OF A TOP GENERAL WHO TOLD HIM DIRECTLY 9/11 WAS A FALSE FLAG ATTACK

(Contiued)

...'I TAUGHT STAND DOWN AND FALSE FLAG OPERATIONS AT THE NATIONAL WAR COLLEGE, I'VE TAUGHT IT WITH ALL MY OPERATIVES SO I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS DONE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC,' HE ADDED.

PIECZENIK RE-ITERATED THAT HE WAS PERFECTLY WILLING TO REVEAL THE NAME OF THE GENERAL WHO TOLD HIM 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB IN FEDERAL COURT, 'SO THAT WE CAN UNRAVEL THIS THING LEGALLY, NOT WITH THE STUPID 9/11 COMMISSION THAT WAS ABSURD.'

PIECZENIK EXPLAINED THAT HE WAS NOT A LIBERAL, A CONSERVATIVE OR A TEA PARTY MEMBER, MERELY AN AMERICAN WHO IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DIRECTION IN WHICH HIS COUNTRY IS HEADING.

WATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW WITH DR. PIECZENIK...(ON YouTube)"--GlobalResearch.ca

"10 FACTS THAT PROVE THE BIN LADEN FABLE IS A CONTRIVED HOAX--

Every Indication Clearly Points To Last Sunday's Raid Being A Manufactured Ploy To Return Americans To A State Of Post-9/11 Intellectual Castration--

J. Watson (5-9-11)...

TO BE CONTINUED

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News Item5/9/11 6:28 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
Kevin DeYoung, pastor of University Reformed Church "But," he adds in his blog, "God has ordained that he should exercise that right through the power of the state."

Romans 13:3 (KJV)
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

They are a terror to Christians, therefore they are not of God, and we are not to follow.
We are to follow the Bible even if it breaks the laws of men.

Psalms 94:20 (KJV)
Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?

Hosea 8:4 (KJV) They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.

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News Item5/9/11 5:10 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
"TOP GOVERNMENT INSIDER: BIN LADEN DIED IN 2001, 9/11 FALSE FLAG ATTACK
By J. Watson (5-4-11)

FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE UNDER THREE (3) DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS STEVE R. PIECZENIK SAYS HE IS PREPARED TO TELL A FEDERAL GRAND JURY THE NAME OF A TOP GENERAL WHO TOLD HIM DIRECTLY 9/11 WAS A FALSE FLAG ATTACK

(Contiued)

...'THEY RAN THE ATTACKS,' SAID PIECZENIK, NAMING DICK CHENEY, PAUL WOLFOWITZ, STEPHEN HADLEY, ELLIOT ABRAMS, AND CONDOLEEZA RICE AMONGST OTHERS AS HAVING BEEN DIRECTLY INVOLVED.

'IT WAS CALLED A STAND DOWN, A FALSE FLAG OPERATION IN ORDER TO MOBILIZE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC UNDER FALSE PRETENSES...IT WAS TOLD TO ME EVEN BY THE GENERAL ON THE STAFF OF WOLFOWITZ - I WILL GO IN FRONT OF A FEDERAL COMMITTEE AND SWEAR ON PERJURY WHO THE NAME WAS OF THE INDIVIDUAL SO THAT WE CAN BREAK IT OPEN,' SAID PIECZENIK, ADDING THAT HE WAS 'FURIOUS' AND 'KNEW IT HAD HAPPENED'.

'I TAUGHT STAND DOWN AND FALSE FLAG OPERATIONS AT THE NATIONAL WAR COLLEGE, I'VE TAUGHT IT WITH ALL MY OPERATIVES SO I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS DONE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC,' HE ADDED.

PIECZENIK RE-ITERATED THAT HE WAS PERFECTLY WILLING TO REVEAL THE NAME OF THE GENERAL WHO TOLD HIM 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB IN FEDERAL COURT, 'SO THAT WE CAN UNRAVEL THIS THING..."GlobalResearch.ca ! ! !

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News Item5/9/11 4:49 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Isn't there a rumor he was killed 7 years ago in East Turkestan?
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News Item5/9/11 4:43 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
Well REALLY, "The Bible" Has NOTHING To Say On The "Killing" Of Osama Bin Laden; Because He Was NOT Killed--But DIED About A Decade Ago !:

"TOP GOVERNMENT INSIDER: BIN LADEN DIED IN 2011, 9/11 FALSE FLAG ATTACK
By J. Watson (5-4-11)

FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE UNDER THREE (3) DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS STEVE R. PIECZENIK SAYS HE IS PREPARED TO TELL A FEDERAL GRAND JURY THE NAME OF A TOP GENERAL WHO TOLD HIM DIRECTLY 9/11 WAS A FALSE FLAG ATTACK--

(Contiued)

"...PIECZENIK'S ASSERTION THAT BIN LADEN DIED ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO IS ECHOED BY NUMEROUS INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS AS WELL AS HEADS OF STATE ACROSS THE WORLD.

BIN LADEN, 'WAS USED IN THE SAME WAY THAT 9/11 WAS USED TO MOBILIZE THE EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN ORDER TO GO TO A WAR THAT HAD TO BE JUSTIFIED THROUGH A NARRATIVE THAT BUSH JUNIOR CREATED AND CHENEY CREATED ABOUT THE WORLD OF TERRORISM,' STATE PIECZENIK.

DURING HIS INTERVIEW WITH THE ALEX JONES SHOW YESTERDAY, PIECZENIK ALSO ASSERTED HE WAS DIRECTLY TOLD BY A PROMINENT GENERAL (PETRAEUS ?) THAT 9/11 WAS A STAND DOWN AND A FALSE FLAG OPERATION, AND THAT HE IS PREPARED TO GO TO A GRAND JURY TO REVEAL THE GENERAL'S NAME.

'THEY RAN THE ATTACKS,' SAID PIECZENIK, NAMING DICK CHENEY, PAUL WOLFOWITZ..."GlobalResearch.ca

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News Item5/8/11 5:17 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
TLC wrote:
When Rose Cohen Wrote That Article On Rense.com...( I, TLC)...Was A Republican Candidate...I Was Getting ALOT Of..."Inside" Information From A Former... Buddy Of Then U.S. Attorney General Ashcroft...

***COULD THIS BE THE "PROTOCOLS OF ZION"-JEWISH-OSAMA-OBAMA-DALEY-CHICAGO-RAHM-EMANUEL CONNECTION ?

Excerpts From (Jewess) Rose Cohen's Commentary,
Sydney, Australia,
10-17-2:

"BIN LADEN IS JEWISH...I knew that Bin Laden was Jewish (a) long time ago, but...I never mentioned (it) to anyone except my husband. The fact that Bin Laden Is Jewish, is known in Israel, but the 'free' 'democratic' 'press' of Israel will NOT publish it, as we have to continue to promote the myth that he is (was) a 'villain'.

Actually, I will not be surprised if...the Mossad (& CIA) is (& are) 'laughing all the way to the bank' !...

We ([or] should I say they?) the Jews NEVER brag about what we are doing, and the public (here and in Israel) is totally innocent and uninformed about the amount of terror that we are manipulating and releasing on the whole world at the moment.

The strategy is simple: attempt to make our enemies suspect each other and then

fight it out. It saves us the work. Keep in mind that our enemies are ANYONE WHO IS NOT JEWISH. ..." !

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News Item5/8/11 4:43 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, you comedians? OB Ladin was Jewish?

By the way, yes it was Biblical for them to zapped OB, it was done under government command, Rendering To Caesar: A Biblical Perspective On Government.

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News Item5/8/11 3:14 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
elvis wrote:
"BIN LADEN IS JEWISH... A very close friend and a MOST eminent Israeli journalist told me recently, that according to Jewish law - bin Laden is Jewish, as his mother is Jewish(!)."...Rense.com
When Rose Cohen Wrote That Article On Rense.com In 10-17-2, I Was A Candidate For Congress (IL-4);

As A Republican Candidate From Chicago, I Was Getting ALOT Of My "Inside" Information From A Former College Buddy Of Then U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft (Who Got An Honorary Degree From BJU) Who Was A Pastor Of A Local Church In Aurora, IL: He Told Me They Were Football Buddies In College In Missouri; As BOTH He & Ashcroft Were/Are Assemblies Of God Ministers/Lay-Ministers--

And, Believe It Or Not, My Campaign Coordinator Was Kevin Gore (Nephew Of Former VP Al Gore) Who Was/Is A Conservative Democratic Operative In Chicago, (In The Bridgeport Neighborhood)--As His (Kevin's) Uncles & Aunts, The Feldmen's, Have Owned & Operated "The Bridgeport News"; The Newspaper Of Chicago's Bridgeport "Daleydom" Since The '60s (Or Earlier) !

**The "Gore/Feldman" Families Are RUSSIAN (SOVIET) JEWS !

***COULD THIS BE THE "PROTOCOLS OF ZION"-JEWISH-OSAMA-OBAMA-DALEY-CHICAGO-RAHM-EMANUEL CONNECTION ? ?

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News Item5/8/11 2:08 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
"TOP GOVERNMENT INSIDER: BIN LADEN DIED IN 2011, 9/11 FALSE FLAG ATTACK
By J. Watson

FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE UNDER THREE (3) DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS STEVE R. PIECZENIK SAYS HE IS PREPARED TO TELL A FEDERAL GRAND JURY THE NAME OF A TOP GENERAL WHO TOLD HIM DIRECTLY 9/11 WAS A FALSE FLAG ATTACK--

(CONTINUED)

..''THIS IS ORCHESTRATED, I MEAN WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE SITTING AROUND AND WATCHING A SITCOM, BASICALLY THE OPERATIONS CENTER OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT COMING OUT ALMOST ZOMBIE-LIKE TELLING YOU THEY JUST KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN WHO WAS ALREADY DEAD NINE (9) YEARS AGO,' SAID PIECZENIK, CALLING THE EPISODE, "THE GREATEST FALSEHOOD I'VE EVER HEARD, I MEAN IT WAS ABSURD.'

DISMISSING THE GOVERNMENT'S ACCOUNT OF THE ASSASSINATION OF BIN LADEN AS A 'SICK JOKE' ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, PIECZENIK SAID, "THEY ARE SO DESPERATE TO MAKE OBAMA VIABLE, TO NEGATE THE FACT THAT HE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN BORN HERE, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND, ANY IRREGULARITIES ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND, TO MAKE HIM LOOK ASSERTIVE...TO RE-ELECT THIS PRESIDENT SO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC CAN BE DUPED ONCE AGAIN.'

PIECZENIK'S ASSERTION THAT BIN LADEN DIED ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO IS ECHOED BY NUMEROUS INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS AS WELL AS HEADS OF STATE..."GlobalResearch.ca

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News Item5/8/11 1:54 PM
elvis  Find all comments by elvis
TLC wrote:
Unless "Osama Bin Laden" Is JEWISH
How about this one Tony;

"BIN LADEN IS JEWISH, full stop. A very close friend and a MOST eminent Israeli journalist told me recently, that according to Jewish law - bin Laden is Jewish, as his mother is Jewish(!).

AND -- if that is not enough, this irrefutably honest Israeli journalist, disclosed to me personally that bin Laden's mother's family lives in Israel (I will not print here the exact address which he provided me). I knew that bin Laden was Jewish long time ago, but with the current war hysteria I never mentioned to anyone except to my husband. The fact that bin Laden is Jewish, is known in Israel, but the 'free' 'democratic' 'press' of Israel will NOT publish it, as we have to continue to promote the myth that he is a 'villain'." Rense.com

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News Item5/8/11 1:47 PM
TLC  Find all comments by TLC
elvis wrote:
Bin Laden's full name is:-"Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden"
Unless "Osama Bin Laden" Is JEWISH &-Or Traces His Blood Lineage From His Mother's Side Of The Family;

I'd Say That He's NOT Mentioned BY NAME In THE HOLY BIBLE AT ALL--Before Or After Your Death "elvis" !--LONG-FORM OR SHORT-FORM NAME !

"TOP GOVERNMENT INSIDER: BIN LADEN DIED IN 2011, 9/11 FALSE FLAG ATTACK
By J. Watson

FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE UNDER THREE (3) DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS (DR.) STEVE R. PIECZENIK SAYS HE IS PREPARED TO TELL A FEDERAL GRAND JURY THE NAME OF A TOP GENERAL WHO TOLD HIM DIRECTLY 9/11 WAS A FALSE FLAG ATTACK--

(CONTINUED FROM LAST POST)

..'HE (OBAMA) HAD TO PROVE THAT HE WAS MORE THAN AMERICAN...HE HAD TO BE AGGRESSIVE,' SAID PIECZENIK, ADDING THAT THE FARCE WAS ALSO A WAY OF ISOLATING PAKISTAN AS A RETALIATION FOR INTENSE OPPOSITION TO THE PREDATOR DRONE PROGRAM, WHICH KILLED HUNDREDS OF PAKISTANIS.

'THIS IS ORCHESTRATED, I MEAN WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE SITTING AROUND AND WATCHING A SITCOM, BASICALLY THE OPERATIONS CENTER OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT COMING OUT ALMOST ZOMBIE-LIKE TELLING YOU THEY JUST KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN WHO WAS ALREADY DEAD NINE (9) YEARS AGO,' SAID PIECZENIK...GlobalResearch.ca !

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News Item5/8/11 1:35 PM
elvis  Find all comments by elvis
TLC wrote:
The CORRECT Answer On The "Killing Of Osama Bin Laden":
Tony
Bin Laden's full name is:-
"Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden"

Maybe you'd better check your Bible again, just in case.

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