Many Born-Again Christians Hold Universalist Views
Twenty-five percent of born-again Christians said all people are eventually saved or accepted by God. A similar proportion, 26 percent, said a person’s religion does not matter because all faiths teach the same lessons.
And an even higher proportion, 40 percent, of born-again Christians said they believe Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
Frank wrote: I hate it when they make these false associations, because they are eventually used to discredit real Christianity. They should say, "professing Christians". Okay here are the actual percentages: 0% of born again Christians believe: all people are eventually saved or accepted; religion does not matter because all faiths teach the same lessons; Christians and Muslims worship the same God, etc.
Ha! very good, Frank. I totally agree. You would think that even SermonAudio's antenna would have gone up over this one. Imagine what the world thinks about articles like this? Then they see us bicker and fight back and forth...God bless, brother!
Luke 12 4 "And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5 "But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who after He has killed has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!---NASB
I hate it when they make these false associations, because they are eventually used to discredit real Christianity. They should say, "professing Christians". Okay here are the actual percentages:
0% of born again Christians believe: all people are eventually saved or accepted; religion does not matter because all faiths teach the same lessons; Christians and Muslims worship the same God, etc.
Universalists are misguided religionists who express all to human hopes and desires.
Free willers (Arminians, RCC, Liberals and others) are misguided religionists who would contribute to their own salvation.
Both witness to the effect that they do not completely trust in God and Scripture.
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Both witness to the effect that they do not fully understand sin and its dominion.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
"WHO BELIEVE, ACCORDING to the WORKING of HIS MIGHTY POWER."
CRT wrote: Hell Quiz: Circle the answer indicating that upon Jesus' death His soul descended into Hell: (1.) "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil" (Hebrews 2:14). (2.) "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40). (3.) "He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul was not left in Hell, neither His flesh did see corruption" (Acts 2:31). (4.) All of the above.
We know that it is all of the above, but what by definition is "hell"? BTW Girl...you're bang on.
Circle the answer indicating that upon Jesus' death His soul descended into Hell:
(1.) "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil" (Hebrews 2:14).
(2.) "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40).
(3.) "He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul was not left in Hell, neither His flesh did see corruption" (Acts 2:31).
"Twenty-five percent of born-again Christians said all people are eventually saved or accepted by God. A similar proportion, 26 percent, said a person’s religion does not matter because all faiths teach the same lessons.
And an even higher proportion, 40 percent, of born-again Christians said they believe Christians and Muslims worship the same God."
Huh, there's an easy answer to these percentages. The people aren't born again Christians. No-one can truly be a Christian without believing that Jesus is the ONLY way to God and salvation ("There is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus"). If you believe anything else, you are not trusting in Christ alone by faith for your salvation. As for those that believe in an airy-fairy feel-good gospel that all eventually will be saved: "He that believeth in me is not condemned, but he that believeth not in me is condemned already."
CJW wrote: When asking anyone if they are saved, try asking them what they are saved from. You may also ask someone not only what they are saved from, but Who are they saved from. If you are not saved from a Holy and Righteous God's wrath for your sins, by God's grace through Christ by faith alone, for the glory of God who alone deserves glory, please answer the question, "What do you consider as being saved?"
When asking anyone if they are saved, try asking them what they are saved from. You may also ask someone not only what they are saved from, but Who are they saved from.
If you are not saved from a Holy and Righteous God's wrath for your sins, by God's grace through Christ by faith alone, for the glory of God who alone deserves glory, please answer the question,
how wrote: Universalist "I bet we save more than you do" Arminian "Not if we work harder you won't." Calvinist "I'll leave it up to God."
Oooer....
You forgot:
4. Disciple: "We must work while it is day, night cometh when no man can work. We must cast our bread upon the waters. We must preach the gospel, as Jesus told us to. We must pray that our work will be successful. We must call upon God to be with us, and fill us with his Spirit. We must ask the Lord to open doors for the gospel. We must fight for the life of the sinner. We must lay down our life for the saints. Such love shown at Calvary demands my life, my soul, my all. We must spend and be spent in the Master's service. And the results, and the increase, we will leave to the Lord, for we are just unprofitable servants."
Samuel Son wrote: That's why we should be more careful when people say "I am saved". Some people insist their salvation without knowing the very fundamental and basic truth. We should see them carefully and also ourselves.
This is why when I come into a conversation with someone who calls themselves a Christian I ask them this: On Judgment Day when you stand before the God of all the universe and let's say He asks you why He must allow you into heaven...what will be your answer? Anything that starts with I or me is the wrong answer. Those of us who are saved and we know we are saved, know the right answer: Christ's work on the cross alone.
reality wrote: --- "If Christ had died only a bodily death, it would have been ineffectual. No — it was expedient at the same time for him to undergo the severity of God’s vengeance, to appease his wrath and satisfy his just judgment. For this reason, he must also grapple hand to hand with the armies of hell and the dread of everlasting death." (John Calvin)
BBT wrote: ...how do we avoid the article's pitfall: "Many Born-Again Christians Hold Universalist Views"?....
BBT,
Q1. I answer: true and faithful worship doctrine, discipline and government under a well ordered Kirk.
Q2. I could tell you of my own experience, but that is not the thing is it? The ordinary means is the gospel preached. O for the settled state of the Kirk in order that the ordinary is countenanced by God to the building up of his kingdom on earth.
Q3. Because perfidity and proud ignorance on men's parts resist repentance and the rod of God's displeasure is on His Kirk and all suffer as a result.
My addition to your last statemente: God's end in view will be realized in due time.
"if annihilationism is true, this is wonderful news for the Hitler's and Stalin's of this world. They can kill millions of people in life and then at the end, apart from a few moments of shame at the judgment, they actually get away with it. Once annihilated, they will never have to think about their sin ever again. In fact, they will never have to think; and never have to worry; and never have to grieve over their sin. .... so likewise this would be the case for the mass murderers of the world.
No, the biblical picture is very different and I would say extremely clear. Most of our information about hell comes from the lips of Jesus, who is of course, the highest possible authority. It is as if God, knowing that men would rail against the doctrine of hell, did not entrust the bulk of the message to even the most prominent of the Apostles, because He knew men would say, "Oh that's just Paul going off on a tangent." or "yes, Peter was a child of his day and it was popular to believe in hell at that time, hence he warned folk about it. We know better." Of course, this idea totally undermines the inspiration of Scripture, for although all men can be misguided, God preserved His Word with inerrancy." (John Samson)
New in Focus wrote: SJJ, I appreciate your humble assessment and if I may; I agree The Word of God is to be preferred always, for without it, How could we test the spirits; 1 John 4:1-4. We, all of us struggle in the flesh. But if you have some time on the Lord's Day I believe you would find 'Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life' by John Brown of Wamphrey from Sola Deo Gloria very helpful. I have just taking little bits, at a time to meditate on and it has helped my understanding of the Scripture applied to real life.
New in Focus,
Your statement that, "the Word of God is to be preferred" is critical, however, how do we avoid the article's pitfall: "Many Born-Again Christians Hold Universalist Views"?
The book you referenced, 'Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life' may help guide the lost to Christ. But surely the Scripture is enough, right?
However, why don't 25-40% of born-again Christians know that Jesus is the only Way, the only Truth and the only life for one to get to the Father?
With the literacy rate in significant decline, perhaps many more will be lost if we're counting on them to read their Bibles.
San Jose John wrote: No idea. Being not much of a reader, myself, I tend to spend what little energy I have for books studying the Bible rather than studying what theologeons have written--which I understand as being MY loss, since many of these most blessed men, I'm sure have much God-given goodness/wisdom/etc. to impart to those of us who still struggle in the flesh.
SJJ,
I appreciate your humble assessment and if I may; I agree The Word of God is to be preferred always, for without it, How could we test the spirits; 1 John 4:1-4. We, all of us struggle in the flesh. But if you have some time on the Lord's Day I believe you would find 'Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life' by John Brown of Wamphrey from Sola Deo Gloria very helpful. I have just taking little bits, at a time to meditate on and it has helped my understanding of the Scripture applied to real life.
GIG wrote: Since no Reformation creed has supplanted it, doesn't the Church who gave us the Apostles' Creed, retain the Gospel?
"the church who gave us..." Sounds like a papist trying to convert us to the daft beliefs of worshipping old bones, dead people and relics!!
The RCC still continues to prove that it cannot read the Scriptures. Like Satan they are very subtle when deceitfully using the Bible verse.
Matt 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
"If Christ had died only a bodily death, it would have been ineffectual. No — it was expedient at the same time for him to undergo the severity of God’s vengeance, to appease his wrath and satisfy his just judgment. For this reason, he must also grapple hand to hand with the armies of hell and the dread of everlasting death." (John Calvin)
HDI wrote: Theologian Quiz: Circle the answer corresponding to the theologian who agreed with the Apostles' Creed that Jesus descended into Hell: (1.) Martin Luther. (2.) John Calvin. (3.) Augustine of Hippo. (4.) All of the above.
No idea.
Being not much of a reader, myself, I tend to spend what little energy I have for books studying the Bible rather than studying what theologeons have written--which I understand as being MY loss, since many of these most blessed men, I'm sure have much God-given goodness/wisdom/etc. to impart to those of us who still struggle in the flesh.
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