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No one, save the Egyptians themselves, would like to see a truly democratic Egypt more than Israel.
A real democracy in the greatest Arab nation would be a dream come true. It would safeguard the calm coexistence of Egypt’s many parts: Muslims, academics, traditionalists, Facebook surfers. A real democracy would adhere to a modern constitution, sustain an independent judiciary, protect the Christian minority’s rights, respect dissidents, and stop persecuting homosexuals. It would combat widespread corruption, work to resuscitate Egypt’s crumbling economy, and find ways to feed and educate its poor. A real Egyptian democracy would never scrap peace with Israel in favor of renewed war.
But no one should be more concerned than the Israelis if a less-than-democratic Egypt emerges from the present turbulence....
1When Israel went out of Egypt, the house of Jacob from a people of strange language; 2Judah was his sanctuary, and Israel his dominion. 3The sea saw it, and fled: Jordan was driven back. 4The mountains skipped like rams, and the little hills like lambs. 5What ailed thee, O thou sea, that thou fleddest? thou Jordan, that thou wast driven back? 6Ye mountains, that ye skipped like rams; and ye little hills, like lambs? 7Tremble, thou earth, at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the God of Jacob; 8Which turned the rock into a standing water, the flint into a fountain of waters.
CV wrote: I thought that the word "baptizo" meant immersion....
CV,
In my study of pastor/teacher's in print I found,'baptizo' like many words, has several meanings. It was not meant to relate to the mode but the spiritual reality to be accomplished by God. The word is used for dipping something common like bread in a liquid and permeating it with something completely different. In man's case enabling him to live in Christ's imputed righteousness, given to men in measure by the power of the Holy Spirit. What anyone says or does is not the issue. The issue is what God has promised and will accomplish in all his elect by the Spirit's work. The link between baptism and the discussion of this article is that God deals covenantally or by the veracity of His Word with both Jews and Gentiles. He is unchangeable, like His Word. Ephesians 2:11-18 is a key text to compare with Romans 11 and further reveals God's promise to make Abraham the father of many nations through the promised Messiah.
Tellone wrote: Michael No where in the Bible does it declare that a specific amount of water sufficient to submerge the body is required to authenticate baptism.
I thought that the word "baptizo" meant immersion. But I wont quible here. A sinner, broken, repentant, and humble before a holy God wouldn't quible about what the minimum is that is sufficient.
Tellone wrote: Michael No where in the Bible does it declare that baptism is to be authenticated by verbal means of the sinner.
Yikes!! Not by verbal means? Then all you have left is to peer into the hearts and minds of others and YOU decide for them. And don't say that you meant that their life is their testimony, because then your baptism is performed at the end of their life, not before. Infant baptism makes you make a mess out of theology. If infants can be baptized, then so can other unrepentant, unregenerate sinners, and the dead-- all who most certainly do not verbalize. And best of all, they can all partake at the communion table, or why not?
Questioning Tellone Thanks for your posts. Feel free to email me if you would like to as we seem to be miles apart in communication and straying from the topic of Egyptians being the new Israelites. Briefly: It is historic truth the RCC has a history of error and heresy right from its beginning, infant sprinkling (baptismal regeneration) and “Church/State Marriage” grievous Spiritual Adultery as The Church is to be the Bride of Christ not the whore of the State. Indeed Christians as individuals can serve in government if God has called them to that but this is greatly different from Popes or Protestants joining themselves and forming an alliance to advance a particular denomination over others and this official state church aiding and abetting the royalty who criminalizes Christians who dissent, of course along with the monetary “rewards” to be had in such a union. The Founders of the U.S. acknowledged openly the God of the Bible but made it clear in the First Amendment there is to be NO Official U.S. Religion, the Government is not to establish any denomination over another or hinder individual Churches from worshipping God according to their own conscience. This type of “Baptist” thinking was quite different than both Catholic and Protestant countries of Europe in that time
less original postle wrote: It's a rough crowd so I don't use my name. If I've sinned it is for being caught up in all this sarcastic rhetoric. Maybe my doctrine gives me a different sense of humor. I do have one.
Amen brother man, or sister girl. I'm in complete agreement with That statement.
Michael Hranek wrote: Questioning No. I am a Baptist type believer, in other words, one holding to "You Must Be Born Again",
Michael Hranek wrote: Questioning No. I am a Baptist type believer, in other words, one holding to "You Must Be Born Again",
Michael, I also believe one must be born again from above. The just shall live by faith. Rome had a sad perversion on the doctrine of original sin and taught baptismal regeneration. They would have had no effect if they did not 'mix' truth with error.
Truth can and must be known. But until we are born again we are dead in our trespasses and sins. Dead people have no desire for truth, because there is no life from above they need to sustain. The Everlasting Father through Christ who is 'The Truth' has given His Spirit to those born from above and they can't live without that Spirit of Truth,for they have been crucified with Christ and now live by the faith of Christ. Christ is not divided.
Original Postle wrote: Why have you stolen my name. Postle.
It wasn't locked. If you haven't locked it because you couldn't afford it, I'm sorry. It may be free to be a plus or full member of this club. I don't know. I can't lock an alias, for conscience sake. It's a rough crowd so I don't use my name. If I've sinned it is for being caught up in all this sarcastic rhetoric. Maybe my doctrine gives me a different sense of humor. I do have one.
Michael Hranek wrote: No. I am a Baptist type believer, in other words, one holding to "You Must Be Born Again", Believer's Baptism (Immersion) NOT sprinkling babies, individual believers have the right and duty to learn from the Bible for themselves, Separation of Church and State, the authority and autonomy of the local church (NOT Institutions of Religious Government making men into somekind of Protestant Popes) AND The RCC was not ever The True Church whose errors needed to be Protested and Reformed, she as an institution has always been apostate and those in her needing a complete REPTANCE from her
Michael No where in the Bible does it declare that a specific amount of water sufficient to submerge the body is required to authenticate baptism.
No where in the Bible does it declare that baptism is to be authenticated by verbal means of the sinner.
"America's founding fathers expected our nation to be (on the whole) Christian, and our government to reflect that bias. This appears to be a reasonable understanding of the First Amendment—far more reasonable than asserting that it erected an impenetrable wall of separation."
Lastly, as regards the RCC your interpretation of history is at odds with the truth.
No. I am a Baptist type believer, in other words, one holding to "You Must Be Born Again", Believer's Baptism (Immersion) NOT sprinkling babies, individual believers have the right and duty to learn from the Bible for themselves, Separation of Church and State, the authority and autonomy of the local church (NOT Institutions of Religious Government making men into somekind of Protestant Popes)
AND The RCC was not ever The True Church whose errors needed to be Protested and Reformed, she as an institution has always been apostate and those in her needing a complete REPTANCE from her, not just the Mass, Mary and the Papacy so a "Protestant" can still hold to whatever they like, for example her Augustinian teachings, church state marriage, a ruling class clergy, replacement theology (antisemitism) etc. etc.
AND God has always had His remnant althought they were not always called Baptists
Again David Hunt's book Judgment Day is an excellent read probably something those who are Catholic or Reformed won't like, and especially those who are antisemetic.
Ah, Caroline had an interesting article on Egypt, hot of the press, Our World: The legacy of a teetering peace. There hasn't been a Muhammadan country that can be a functional democracy, because one has to separate Islam (q.v. the Inadequacy of Islam) from the state, and that won't ever happen on a permanent basis.
Postle Postle wrote: The name that I like to use on Internet chat is Postle Postle, but Postle Postle is only the first and middle name that I use when I chat on Internet. I would be crazy to publish my real full name because I watch TV with my mom and the TV says there are a lot of bad people that use the Internet. There is no confusion Original Postle because your name is your first and last name and the name that I use does not have a last name. Your general location says UK and my general location says USA, so people will not be confused.
XENOGLOSSY/ˈzɛnəʊˌɡlɒsɪ/ The ability to speak a language without having learned it.
This sounds like a really neat trick if you can manage it.
However, a typical place to find this rare word is the Journal of Parapsychology. That’s because the ability is regarded as a psychic phenomenon. It might come about because a person has been regressed to a previous incarnation through hypnosis. Or a medium might be in communication with a spirit person who speaks another language. The OED dates its first appearance to 1914; it’s from Greek xenos, stranger or foreigner, plus glossa, language; another spelling is xenoglossia.
Michael Hranek wrote: Alanprotestant Great Britain Hi! You might say this is Michael, a Baptist NOT a Protestant in NY, USA
Michael, I believe you claim to be a Protestant not a Papist in doctrine, yet you claim to be Anabaptist Arminian in your interpretation of said protestant doctrine which is more consistent with the Roman Church's teaching. You do not appear to be familiar with faithful church history, understandable it is hard to find. The reason for that is your geographical location? I think not. Though I think it not irrelevant, related to the state's opportunities lost from days gone by.
Postle Postle wrote: I would be crazy to publish my real full name because I watch TV with my mom and the TV says there are a lot of bad people that use the Internet. There is no confusion Original Postle because your name is your first and last name and the name that I use does not have a last name. Your general location says UK and my general location says USA, so people will not be confused.
Can I join the Postle Society with a middle name too?
Original Postle wrote: Why have you stolen my name. Postle.
The name that I like to use on Internet chat is Postle Postle, but Postle Postle is only the first and middle name that I use when I chat on Internet. I would be crazy to publish my real full name because I watch TV with my mom and the TV says there are a lot of bad people that use the Internet. There is no confusion Original Postle because your name is your first and last name and the name that I use does not have a last name. Your general location says UK and my general location says USA, so people will not be confused.
It's a two edged question, and the Spirit of truth has an answer for both. For starters, the context was in the concepts of men, as the article was asking the question in terms democracy: which we all know is the form that allows for various corporations, which are then exploited by the Whore and the Beast, as the people give their strength to those kings of the south and north, and align themselves under the banner of freedom, and burden themselves as they see fit.
Proverbs 27:3 "A stone is heavy, and the sand weighty; but a fool's wrath is heavier than them both."
Now for as many in Egypt as take up the holy covenant, and worship the Lord God in spirit and truth according to the Gospel (while offering at Jerusalem is not required before the kingdom of Israel is restored, for one thing), they may through Christ Jesus have access into the commonwealth of the spiritual kingdom of Israel. If they were to proclaim liberty, and follow the pattern fit for the situation, found in the Scriptures of a truth, they may be the Israel of God.
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