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Choice News FRIDAY, DEC 31, 2010  |  171 comments  |  3 commentaries
King James Bible's 400-year reign

Its cadence is found in the speeches of Abraham Lincoln and the lyrics of Paul Simon. Renowned narrator Alexander Scourby and country music legend Johnny Cash have recorded spoken versions of the text. It's estimated that 1 billion copies have been printed since the first volume rolled off the press in 1611.

The King James Version of the Bible, also known as the "Authorized Version," marks its 400th anniversary in 2011, and by any measure, it has had a lasting impact on the world and on the language into which it was sent. The "authorized" moniker comes from a title-page declaration that this Bible was "authorized to be read in churches." ...


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Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Wow, he made it through an entire quote without mentioning jesuits, conspiracy theories or condemning the poster of the post to which he was responding to eternal punishment. Miracles still happen
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News Item10/6/13 7:01 PM
HIS Authorized English KJBible  Find all comments by HIS Authorized English KJBible
Long after jim lincoln's body is being eaten by worms in his grave: The King James Bible Will Be Quoted More Than The Other English Per-Versions; Especially The N.A.S.B. English Perversion Of The Historic Authorized English King James Holy Bible !

Yep, The King James Holy Bible Will OUTLIVE jim lincoln.

In Fact, The King James Holy Bible Will OUTLIVE ALL WHO ARE PRESENTLY LIVING TODAY !

Why ?

Because It's The PRESERVED WORD OF GOD MOST PROMULGATED IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD THROUGHOUT PAST, PRESENT & FUTURE HUMAN HISTORY !

And There Ain't--Isn't ANYTHING jim lincoln Can Say Or Do That Will EVER DETER OR DIMINISH THIS HISTORIC KING JAMES HOLY BIBLE FACT !

THOSE WHO STAND BY THE KING JAMES HOLY BIBLE--THOSE WHO REALLY LOVE THE PRESERVED WORD OF GOD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE MOST POPULAR--WILL SHED EVERY LAST DROP OF BLOOD THAT FLOWS THROUGH THEIR VEINS IN DEFENDING, STANDING-BY, USING, QUOTING, PUBLISHING, PREACHING, TEACHING & PROMULGATING THE AFORESAID "KING JAMES HOLY BIBLE":

THE ONLY MOST POPULAR ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THE HISTORIC 66 BOOKS OF THE HOLY, PERFECT, PURE & PRESERVED WORD OF GOD !

**THE NASB WILL ONLY BE CAST (IF IT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN) IN THE DUNG-HILL WITH PAST ENGLISH "BIBLES" WHO'VE TRIED TO RIVAL THE KING JAMES BIBLE !

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News Item10/6/13 5:12 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Picturethis, and John U.K. why not be repetitive? You gentlemen, don't seem to get it the first time. Most of this last material was from Doug Kutilek or Dr. Joyner by the way. By the way, Picturethis, you made the same arguments that Catholics made for the Vulgate Only. The Claims of the Latin Vulgate-only View. But when it comes to Dr. Wallace, of course I use Why I Do Not Think the King James Bible Is the Best Translation Available Today, because it covers the topic well.

But, if a Bible isn't in contemporary English, doesn't have Baptists on it's translation teams, and thinks twice about using the Textus Receptus, q.v., see the commentary by --John MacArthur-- The Biblical Position on The KJV Controversy, then just toss it on the ash heap of history, to quote Mike of N.Y., who said in another thread, 'too many people think God was an Englishman.' how racist can one get!

The comments that AV is the one and only Bible --in any language-- are just as ludicrous as I first heard them years ago on this forum. A bombastic version, with such outdated language, you don't bother even to read it.

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News Item10/6/13 11:49 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
picturethis wrote:
Jim's 'repetitive' rhetoric...
Pauvre Jim, suffers from RRS.

repetitive rhetoric syndrome

needs the RRS vaccine or plenty of carrot juice.

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News Item10/6/13 7:20 AM
picturethis  Find all comments by picturethis
"Wallace's rhetoric including his suggestions that those who hold to the traditional text are: Bultmannians, Catholics, rationalists, Marcionites, psychologically insecure, and "bibliologically schizophrenic." Wow! I sure am glad that modern-text onlyists don't indulge in the same kind of ad hominem rhetoric as the KJV-onlyists!"

Review: Dan Wallace on Preservation.Part 4 (9.24.1

Wonder if Mr Lincoln has heard the above 4 messages or just ALWAYS accepts what Mr Wallace always says

That is the problem of not understanding or researching the position you always attack

Note Jerusalem blade below and the one verse that JW's were quick to alter in their own new bible perversion-I Timothy 3: 16. Who did they follow the AV translation or the 1881 revision committee of modern scholarship?

Dr Vance Smith and ant-trinitarians reject...

Jim says: 'the Jehovah Witnesses followed in the Satanic writers of the AV'

Jim's 'repetitive' rhetoric...

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News Item10/5/13 4:17 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, John U.K., The AV is a very bad version, the Jehovah Witnesses followed in the Satanic writers of the AV, Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations, and of course, The Influence of An Anglican Archbishop on the KJV remember Erasmus, His Greek Text and His Theology was a much more of Satan, then Westcott & Hort: Victims of KJV-Only Smear Campaign ever were!
Dr. Robert A. Joyner wrote:
I believe it is misguided for fundamental Baptists to defend a version of the Bible based on a Greek text, prepared by a liberal Roman Catholic, translated by Episcopalians and authorized by a king who hated Baptists. While they reject translations based on a Greek text approved by all the great scholars and early fundamental leaders and translated by good Bible believing scholars from all groups, including Baptists....
from, Which Bible?.

By the way, pt, Luther, Calvin, etc. used the Vulgate.

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News Item10/4/13 6:23 PM
picturethis  Find all comments by picturethis
Jim Lincoln wrote:
God has set up the AV as a Nehustan to see if people are more interested in His Word, or an idol that purports to be a completely accurate representation of it.
What a remarkable statement from a professing believer . You must see that you are of course correct that God did set up the text of the Reformation and then the AV from that very text for 4 centuries. It was THE Bible of virtually ANY Christian worth naming from John Newton the author of AMAZING GRACE to George Muller the best example of a spiritual man I can think of. The best example of a preacher-C H Spurgeon.

James White is set up as THE authority and THUS SAITH JAMES WHITE seems to have more authority than the PROVEN RECORD OF CHRISTIAN HISTORY

One day you might find James White is mistaken on a number of issues, even as a good man!

The AV was still THE BIBLE up until the 1970's and understood by simple folk then...astonishing how far the English civilised world and the Church has advanced since then And all those new versions are not confusing rather than one excellent accurate Bible authority? The end is nigh when fools say that God set up the AV as an idol.

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News Item10/4/13 3:35 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Jim Lincoln wrote:
God uses anything he pleases including (very) bad Bible versions.
It wasn't until Westcott and Hort that we got any very bad versions. The KJV translators made it very clear that former Bibles were GOOD, and that they were just making a good Bible better.

I reckon Douggy Kutilek has got an obsession for which he needs medication. Does he ever review the Street Bible, or the Gypsy Bible, or the Bus Driver's Bible, or the Democrat's Bible, or the Punk Bible, or the Bob Dylan Bible? Hmmmmm?

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News Item10/4/13 3:01 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
God uses anything he pleases including (very) bad Bible versions. One can say the present day immorality in English speaking nations is due to the repulsive KJV language and errors. I would say there has been plenty of evidence of this from the American Civil War to the present day acceptance of queer marriages, something that King James himself wouldn't disapprove of.
James White wrote:
Generally speaking, KJV Only writers have no interest in being fair or impartial in their handling of the manuscript and textual data of Scripture. They also have little desire to accurately or honestly reflect the opinions of those with whom they disagree. Indeed, there is no effort made to appreciate the strengths of the positions of anyone who would speak a word against the inerrancy of the KJV.
Why KJVO Claims and Arguments Cannot Be Trusted.

God has set up the AV as a Nehustan to see if people are more interested in His Word, or an idol that purports to be a completely accurate representation of it. It has become a snare to many people, and one that Satan has put to his use.

You can be saved by reading the AV, but that can said for the RCC Bible as we

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News Item10/4/13 2:34 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
TS wrote:
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NIV (and modern versions) - No proof yet that God uses these versions.
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What would constitute proof to one who wouldn't believe it anyway?
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News Item10/4/13 2:29 PM
TS  Find all comments by TS
Jim Lincoln wrote:
since NIV kicked the KJV of it's thrown decades ago
Jim
The real litmus test for which version is which one does God use.

KJV - Used by God for centuries. Proof the building of His Church.

NIV (and modern versions) - No proof yet that God uses these versions.

Modern versions flaw is the input of heretics such as Westcott, Hort, Nestle and Aland. = NB God doesn't use heretics for something as important as teaching His doctrines.

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News Item10/4/13 1:48 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I see more, ah, comments piled up after mine. The title for the thread is wrong of course, since NIV kicked the KJV of it's thrown decades ago (Thank God!) But gentlemen, don't you realize what a cult belong to? The AV is as much an idol as the Qur'an, statues of Mary, or the book of Mormon. Well I could add, which would have been new to this thread, Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations which points out how ludicrous AV worship is. Yes, this is old, but truth is truth probably written in the late 19th or early 20th Century.
William Bell Riley wrote:
Is the King James version absolutely inerrant? On this point we are inclined to think that, even unto comparatively recent years, such a theory has been entertained. The result, of course, is to make a sort of fetish of the book. That is why, in many a family, it is kept on the center-table and seldom used. They do not want to soil its sacredness….
from, Errors in the King James Version?.

KJV Onlyism is as anti-Christian as the Jehovah Witness attachment to the NWT. See the thread with my response, which this one will be close to.

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News Item3/7/11 3:24 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
cornedbeef wrote:
Book for Jim Lincoln to read by the stylist of the ESV who doesn't state anything similar to Jim
Time for Jim to rethink his KJV abuse and maybe read the AV for a whole year and he might begin to speak sense like Abraham 'Lincoln' in the news article
See
If Jim keeps spamming it is time to report him as his posts seem to be pretty repetetive with the same links over and over and over and over and over AGAIN!
Just think bro, it could have been called "corned-beefing".
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News Item3/6/11 5:30 PM
cornedbeef  Find all comments by cornedbeef
Book for Jim Lincoln to read by the stylist of the ESV who doesn't state anything similar to Jim

Time for Jim to rethink his KJV abuse and maybe read the AV for a whole year and he might begin to speak sense like Abraham 'Lincoln' in the news article

See

If Jim keeps spamming it is time to report him as his posts seem to be pretty repetetive with the same links over and over and over and over and over AGAIN!

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News Item1/20/11 11:42 AM
that'sjustsilly  Find all comments by that'sjustsilly
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Hmmm, let's see did Calvin, Luther, John Knox, Simon Meno, etc, use the AV! Of course not they used the Vulgate, at least until the got something better such as the The Geneva Bible Of 1560. The AV is a Catholic Bible!!!... So remember, the answer is a resounding "Yes!" to Is the King James Version a ‘Roman Catholic Bible’?
These men whose name's you've thrown out there all lived before the KJV.Although I'm not sure who Simon Meno is,unless you're referencing Menno Simon,who also happened to live before the KJV.
You keep saying the KJV is a Catholic bible.If you would research I'm sure you'd learn that,in fact,it is not.
Your rants against the KJV are making less and less sense.
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News Item1/19/11 10:45 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
Amen, Frank!
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News Item1/19/11 9:58 PM
Alan H | Washington State  Protected NameFind all comments by Alan H
Frank Dombrosky wrote:
I, for one, do not feel humbled or rebuked in the least for believing that God has preserved His own pure Word. EVERYTHING involving the Christian faith is built upon the firm foundation of the Bible. Without it, Christianity is no more than silly superstition or a fable.
I must admit, however, that those who reply to my posts are making less and less sense. My direct comments have, for the most part, been carefully avoided. All I see are opinions from a variety of human sources that are old and worn. I think that real convictions should be based upon the Word of God ALONE. It doesn't matter what this or that source says. The ONLY thing that matters is what God says in the Bible.
Like I said, friends, I don't have a problem. You do. I've got God's pure, preserved Word. By your own admission, you don't.
Amen! Well said Frank and worthy of repeating!
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News Item1/18/11 4:58 PM
TS  Find all comments by TS
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Douglas S. Chinn & Robert C. Newman wrote:
,,,the ... refusal of many pro-KJV people to acknowledge that the KJV is an imperfect text demonstrates that scholarship is not the primary basis of the TR-KJV movement. Rather, it shows that another basis besides scholarship is being used to establish the KJV as the best NT text, to split fundamental churches, and to polarize individuals over this issue. In their desire for absolute certainty, many people have replaced true scholarship with "faith without scholarship." However, such a methodology does not allow one to distinguish between biblical Christianity and such "blind faith" heresies
Jim
Your buddies here Chinn and Newman - and of course your self....
Tell me do you all address these allegations to GOD as well, since HE used the KING JAMES VERSION for 400 years to build HIS Church?

Do you believe that to be quote, "blind faith heresies???"

BLASPHEMY again Jim!!

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News Item1/18/11 3:17 PM
Joe the Protestant | 2525  Find all comments by Joe the Protestant
River Jordan wrote:
Thank you for all the responses.
Especial thanks to Joe the Protestant who answered much more like Jesus would have, than you others.
IAE, I'm going to have to talk to my dad about this
before I listen to all of you, but again, thank you for the input.
Thank you River. Please continue to listen to sermons and avail yourself of the other features on S/A. I still believe it is the best christian site there is. Someone once said "The news comment section is the underbelly of the site'. I guess that can be said of most sites. There are many clever arguments going on here, but there are some that I agree grieve the Lord. Some people think that since they have a computer and an opinion, that makes them experts; and since no one can prove otherwise, they get bombastic.

Having said that, don't buy into the World's philsophy that says that Standards and Dissagreement equals Hate. The leftist crowd believes that the Bible itself is Hate Speech because of all those "Thou Shalt Nots"

One more thing River: That's great that you will talk to your Dad about this. That's real, Biblical honoring parents and their wisdom. God's Blessing. BTW, Check out Paul Washer on S/A

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News Item1/18/11 1:48 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I don't see the note directed toward the moderators, but to answer yesterday's post.
Douglas S. Chinn & Robert C. Newman wrote:
,,,the ... refusal of many pro-KJV people to acknowledge that the KJV is an imperfect text demonstrates that scholarship is not the primary basis of the TR-KJV movement. Rather, it shows that another basis besides scholarship is being used to establish the KJV as the best NT text, to split fundamental churches, and to polarize individuals over this issue. In their desire for absolute certainty, many people have replaced true scholarship with "faith without scholarship." However, such a methodology does not allow one to distinguish between biblical Christianity and such "blind faith" heresies as Mormonism. In reality, such a faith replaces the authority of God with "leading by feelings" concerning one's experiences using the KJV (or the Book of Mormon for that matter); and these experiences are just as likely to change, if not more so, as conclusions derived from careful scholarship.
from Demystifying The Controversy Over The Textus Receptus And The King James Version Of The Bible
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